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stmadeveloper

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I figure this will be one of the biggest argument threads in WF ever :) I'm personally inviting Lukep and hellblazer to go a couple rounds.

You know you don't have anything important to do today anyway. You know you'll have fun this way at least.

Premise: PROVE there is or isn't a conspiracy along these lines:


- huge amounts of lobbying money are going towards actions that will destabilize our country. Who and why....

- BIGGER amounts of lobbying money are going to towards actions that will destabilize our dollar. Who and why...

- Even bigger amounts of lobbying money are going towards actions that just plain fuck normal people.

- Even bigger amounts of lobbying money are going towards actions that just have zero common sense behind them.

- It's obvious our MEDIA isn't free to report as they should be any longer. Who said that a free and objective press is required for a Democracy/Republic to function properly? They have also devoted tremendous resources to making MOST people believe that internet news is just a bunch of wackos.

Both of our political parties are just ducks wearing a different set of clothes that quack on command for donations.

Conspiracy? We all know it's aliens, but to think that there isn't a group of very wealthy people who have managed to control a large number of media corporations, international companies, and vast amounts of wealth aren't trying to manipulate the system for THEIR benefit is sort of sticking your head in the sand.

I'm not a conspiracy theorist except for ancient aliens, the illuminati, the NWO, and that 9/11 was in inside job thought of after we didn't really go to the moon.... but even I can see that there seems to be a force guiding things in a pretty bad direction for me in my golden years and my kids future.

Do I know who/what/why? Nope. Do I see the evidence of it all around me? Yep. Some things aren't believable like that 9/11 was an inside job - because I really don't think any branch of our government is that competent. However, it's hard to ignore that vast amounts of money is guiding many levels of our government with said vast amounts of money.
 


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stmadeveloper said:
Premise: PROVE there is or isn't a conspiracy along these lines:
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Should be:Premise: PROVE there is a conspiracy along these lines:[/QUOTE]

The burden of proof lies with those who claim that there is a conspiracy to begin with, as the norm lies with the benefit of assumption. (jokes with the word "assume" aside :D )
 
of course there is conspiracies, they are all over, you know why ?

who owns the big names like cnn, people magazine, NY Times, are they governmentat agencies or freelancers who are raising money ?

any one can tell you that they are raising money, they dont care about anything but money and you know whats the biggest proof here ?

9-11
 
I would place my Bet on the Japanese and/or the Russians.
The Japanese haven't forgotten Hiroshima. The Russians still resent losing the Cold war.

Also the Aliens. Remember How even the Presidunk flew a fighter plane and help blast the mother vessel in The Independence Day. The Aliens never forget.
 
I hate these types of staged threads. I've already told you fools the truth.

The Russians never lost the Cold War. They had a 60-year plan to brainwash the American people into disarming while destroying their culture, values, and currency at the same time. They planned on infiltrating the universities, entertainment industries, and media. They planned on brainwashing successive generations into Marxism-Leninism. Tons of KGB defectors have already testified to this - Yuri Bezmenov, Anatoliy Golitsyn, Jan Sejna, Alexander Litvinenko, Victor Suvorov, Sergei Tretyakov, Vladimir Bukovsky, Stanislav Lunev, etc...

It's obviously worked, the dollar is about to collapse, "terrorists" are nothing but Russian proxies, China is allied with Russia and will provide the ground troops, and Obama is the final piece. I'm not interested in "debating" that braindead moron called Lukep, there's tons of evidence to support what I'm saying. Research it yourself if you actually care, although I doubt many of you do, because you're mostly consumed with appearing intelligent. Continue orgasming over Ron Paul while they complete the controlled demolition of this country. I'm out.
 
I have a list of conspircy videos on a site I built freepatriotnews.com they cover food, 9-11, NWO, etc. They are all worth a watch.

One of my favorite is in one of Alex Jones movies about how the Rothschilds became as rich as they are. He explained that he spread the rumor that Napoleon had won or lost I don't recall. But the news killed the finical markets of London and everyone panicked. Then the mofo bought up everything he possibly could, later the real news came back that he either won or lost and the markets corrected its self. But in that time Rothschild now owned like all of London. If true it makes for an awesome story. But also show how easy something like that can be. Anyone recall the 2008 stock market crash to like 9k, then its recovery to 12k+ the next year. You think everyone lost money there? (Been awhile since I saw that video)
 
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Look into Operation Mockingbird and Operation Gladio. There are countless conspiracies that are now declassified. Don't believe anything the media/government tells you. People that laugh at the idea that the public isn't told the agenda of the elite are usually the most ignorant people out there.
 
hellblazer said:
I hate these types of staged threads. I've already told you fools the truth.

The Russians never lost the Cold War. They had a 60-year plan to brainwash the American people into disarming while destroying their culture, values, and currency at the same time. They planned on infiltrating the universities, entertainment industries, and media. They planned on brainwashing successive generations into Marxism-Leninism. Tons of KGB defectors have already testified to this - Yuri Bezmenov, Anatoliy Golitsyn, Jan Sejna, Alexander Litvinenko, Victor Suvorov, Sergei Tretyakov, Vladimir Bukovsky, Stanislav Lunev, etc...

It's obviously worked, the dollar is about to collapse, "terrorists" are nothing but Russian proxies, China is allied with Russia and will provide the ground troops, and Obama is the final piece. I'm not interested in "debating" that braindead moron called Lukep, there's tons of evidence to support what I'm saying. Research it yourself if you actually care, although I doubt many of you do, because you're mostly consumed with appearing intelligent. Continue orgasming over Ron Paul while they complete the controlled demolition of this country. I'm out.
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I sort of almost completely agree with you. But I would suggest checking out Antony Sutton's work on who finances the Russian Revolution. A lot of Wall Street money, a lot of interesting quotes from bankers saying "our goals are the same as yours". It's not just the Russians, its a worldwide movement to destroy sovereignty and build a .....wait for it.....wait for it....New World Order. Google what David Rockefeller wrote his PhD dissertation on. "Some even believe we are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States, characterizing my family and me as 'internationalists' and of conspiring with others around the world to build a more integrated global political and economic structure — one world, if you will. If that's the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it." _ D. Rockefeller, 2002.

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I'm feeling generous, so I'll leave you with this.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Iz3VjoHXLA]CommieTunes - OBAMA's END GAME REVEALED - Obama Socialist / Communist / Marxist / Maoist - YouTube[/ame]
 
hellblazer said:
China is allied with Russia and will provide the ground troops,
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It's much easier to defend a nation than to invade one. There's absolutely no way that China & Russia could win a ground invasion. That's not even counting help from US allies, nuclear weapons, or the fact that China's economy is dependent on the US. The US spends about 8 times as much on their military as China does. France and the UK spend more than Russia. Canada is right next door and they spend about half as Russia.

But I'm surprised you haven't made a thread about this :
Kremlin green lights Siberia-Alaska tunnel • The Register
 
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-jGDD18uIg]Libyan Rebel Victory Hoax Celebration, As Gaddafi Forces Flash Out Sleeper Cells In Tripoli - YouTube[/ame]
 
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