took u fuckign long enough (srs, good post)
anyone else looking forward until we invade countries with fully robotic armies? gonna be so much fun!
Chopper Gunner Indiscretion: Innocent People Hammered With 30mm Rounds
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took u fuckign long enough (srs, good post)
anyone else looking forward until we invade countries with fully robotic armies? gonna be so much fun!
War's a lot easier when Medics have big red crosses on their vehicles and uniforms.
Haha, the best part is that we're all trained to effectively operate these robots via Warfare Video Games.
My 4:1 kill-to-death ratio in CoD2 will look mighty fine on my resume.
Please post proof from a credible source, that GB intentionally LIED to start the war? I would really like to see the proof. However I do share your sentiments concerning the religeon of peace.
P.S. this is if you still believe that GB lied to start the war.
Unarmed Gunman, so what you are saying is that when it comes to Americans, it's all "innocent civilians", yet when it comes to brown people that don't worship Jesus, there is not such thing as "innocent civilians" there?
The gist of your messages to the Muslims seems to be: clear up your shit or face the consequences.
You do realize that you are applying it to a billion of innocent civilians, right?
That's precisely the same fucked up logic used to justify blowing up planes: Americans let their government rape other nations, so it's OK to kill Americans.
And you obviously see just how fucked up such line of thinking is when it's applied towards "you". So why don't you see it the other way around?
How exactly is your mindset better than that of the people who support all the terrorist acts being committed?
The gist of your messages to the Muslims seems to be: clear up your shit or face the consequences.
You do realize that you are applying it to a billion of innocent civilians, right?
That's precisely the same fucked up logic used to justify blowing up planes: Americans let their government rape other nations, so it's OK to kill Americans.
And you obviously see just how fucked up such line of thinking is when it's applied towards "you". So why don't you see it the other way around?
How exactly is your mindset better than that of the people who support all the terrorist acts being committed?
when they stop suckign on a 1600 year old pedophiles cock (just like the christians and jews) and indoctrinating their children that its okay to attack a massively superior invading army u can call me to give a fuck
if the united states was invaded by clearly superior aliens that just wanted to get rid of violent crime in the ghettos i would stfu and probably tell my kids to not blow themselves up cause the aliens are infidels
You should watch Red Dawn. A pretty cool movie about a bunch of unwashed retards who took it upon themselves to defend their land from an international coalition. That coalition wasn't fighting the people, but merely tried to replace an unjust regime. And no matter how hard the liberators tried to convince the locals that it's all for their own good, those dumb hicks just didn't get it.
Yeah but I don't remember a scene in Red Dawn where the protagonists class mates hijacked airliners and started flying them into the Kremlin before the invasion.
Well, there was a scene of them blowing up a "relations" center. Don't remember the exact name of it, but the deal was to kill the invaders along with collaborators. So culturally, it's not a big stretch from what's happening in Iraq right now.
In any case, my original point was completely missed by flysarescary.
It's not about those who choose to blow themselves (or others) up. It's about all the other people who just want to live in peace.
If you really believe that most Muslims actually want to wage war, then you are brainwashed beyond any hope.
Most of them just want to fap at internet porn and dickroll each other -- the primary activities of innocent civilians. Or stated differently: live in peace and raise their children. If anything, their biggest problems are with their own governments, not with the infidels.
So painting all Muslims as jihadists is as misleading as painting all Americans (or western Christians in general) as "god hats fags" militia types.
Trying to justify murder of random people "over there" for "the planes and the towers" is as misguided as trying to justify killing you and your family for whatever US military does (and has been doing) abroad.
Yes I believe Bush and his administration lied from day one, and how anyone thinks otherwise is amazing. Do I have proof? No - I don't think I qualify for that security clearance, but I do know that if I knew it was a lie (9/11 - Saddam connection), then they did too. But that is besides the point of my post.
The difference is, the US isn't trying to blow up planeloads of innocent people. Most of the people killed by the US are collateral damage. It's fucked up, but there is a huge difference between trying to kill innocent women and children, and accidentally killing innocent women and children. In a court of law, it would be the difference between 1st degree murder and manslaughter, which is a HUGE difference.
Your comments about "brown people that don't worship Jesus", is way off base. For one - I am an atheist and don't care much for any religions, Christianity included. But I'd much rather be on a plane with Christians than Muslims, and I'm sure if you're honest with yourself, you would too. Also, my ex is black, which makes my 14 year old daughter one of those "brown people" you're referring to, so why was she scared to death of being blown up on a plane ride up to see me for the holidays by a Muslim?
Americans did attempt to rectify our mistake of going into Iraq without justification - we voted the motherfuckers out of office and set in motion a plan for withdrawal. But it made no difference to Muslim's as we have seen by their repeated attacks.
They never have any proof. The liberal media repeated it verbatim and elevated the far-left kooks spouting it so much that the drones on here accepted it as fact. But they'll never be able to produce a scintilla of evidence proving he lied.
Wow, the uproar over this video shows how disconnected people are from reality.
In war, it is liver o die. Unless you are part of the 10% of the population that has a 'bleeding heart' or excessive compassion, most people will value their life over those of others.
War is hell, this just shows it.
The fucks who lied to the world to get into that war for profit. Now they have these innocent people's blood on their hands. Young aggressive guys trying to survive and making bad decisions should not be blamed.
The worse part, is those who haven't even had to answer for their actions, and never will, are the ones to blame.
In war, it is liver o die. Unless you are part of the 10% of the population that has a 'bleeding heart' or excessive compassion, most people will value their life over those of others.
War is hell, this just shows it.
The fucks who lied to the world to get into that war for profit. Now they have these innocent people's blood on their hands. Young aggressive guys trying to survive and making bad decisions should not be blamed.
The worse part, is those who haven't even had to answer for their actions, and never will, are the ones to blame.
Saddam broke the treaty he had with the UN and US. The UN can't manage to agree long enough to fight it's way out of a wet paper bag. The US enforced the treaty after 10+ years of trying to work through the United Nations.
Should we have invaded probably not, but you can't change the past so you can only work with what you got going forward.
End of the day the United Nations failed miserably yet again.
i have watched red dawn and its a fucking stupid movie. i guess killing united nations peace keepers is okay too huh? how is the united states "regime" unjust? were there to peace keep against resistance and violence atleast ideologically. i'm not gonna deny that the first years of the war it was a shotting range and i bet certain infantry men had a lot of fun, but... ehh. just stop resisting. you dont complain when the cops yell "STOP RESISTING, YOU ARE UNDER ARREST". its no different when a country is invaded by a vastly and obviously superior force that isn't going to leave
everyone in iraq knows the US wants to gtfo if their retard inbred cousins would just stop blowing the government buildings and markets up.... but no... they have to preserve their cultural identity from the infidels
what is with fucking stupid people wanting to preserve the cultural identity of their even stupider ancestors for it's uniqueness or whatever the fuck. their is no value in your culture. there is only value in employment. please get with the program. i'm looking at you popeye and hellblazer u dumbfuck chiristans
I think his point was that other large religious groups keep their nutjobs in check for the most part. There are lots of angry "Christian" groups but you don't see public support for the Christian nutjobs that blow up abortion clinics. Muslim leaders are much more ummm supportive of their wackos that try to kill innocent people.
That justification is really weak in reality. It's pretty solid in theory, but it's be used and abused with premeditation for a long time.
There are politicians that want to gain more jobs in their districts to get re-elected. Their districts happen to have defense contractors as primary employers.
There are people living in those districts who like receiving paychecks while working for defense contractors.
There are the defense contractors themselves who want more military orders.
There are logistics companies who want defense contractors to have those projects and military to be always actively deployed somewhere.
There are also some members of the military brass who firmly believe that if two generations of soldiers pass without seeing large scale combat, the army's effectiveness drops. So they want wars to happen from time to time simply from purely pragmatic perspective.
I can list a lot more "groups" of Americans that want the war to go on. And I'm sure you can list them as well.
None of them want to deliberately kill people, but they sure as fuck want the bombs to continue exploding and rounds to be fired, and tanks to be used up and torn, and trucks to be blown up and replaced, and fuel to be burned, and missiles to be launched, and ready to eat meals consumed. The faster the DOD's supplies are depleted, the more new orders everyone in the supply chain scores.
(I won't even go into discussing the oil sector. And I won't go into discussing the use geo politics backed by military strength to protect business interests of the US from which US consumers benefit greatly. And I definitely won't go into the whole private contractor sector, which needs the war simply to exist.)
In short, they all want the war machine to go on, yet they don't want to deliberately kill people. Some of them don't even understand how much they benefit from the war.
But in any case, you can't have a war without death.
So saying that US doesn't intentionally kill, is simply not true. There are plenty of parties/people involved that have vested interests in the war: from giant corporation stockholders to janitors mopping floors at the factories.
But they all like to pretend like what they are doing is not connected to the outcome in some way.
That's why the whole argument about deliberately killing vs. intentionally killing is complete bullshit. And the reason it's used so often is specifically because without it, the whole system of beliefs based on "us vs. them" would collapse.
Since some Americans benefit from deaths of Iraqis, shouldn't all Americans be help responsible?
If not, then why is it OK to hold all Muslims responsible for what some of them are doing?
Terrorism is a business. Military is also a business.
So you can't have it both ways.
If you put all Muslims into one monolithic group, then you should also put all Americans into a monolithic group as well.
And if you did that, then Americans would really begin to look like a bunch of bloodthirsty gready bullies who should all be exterminated for the betterment of the world.
Sadly, that's pretty much how the US is seen from the outside.
Seen from outside? OMG! World exists outside of USA. Jeeze, stop saying such blasphemous things. It is beyond the comprehension of the kitchen-tables* of WF.
* Read: Popeye, Hellblazer, LotsOfZeros et. al.
It looks like that because the US government is not a puppet of some other regime. (All theories about the world government aside.) That's why the religious nutjobs in the US don't really have a reason to "hate" some other country.
So the statements of "let's nuke the whole (insert region)" don't gain much traction among the followers.
Now, let's take Sudis for example. The royal family is not much better than Saddam Hussein when it comes to dealing with dissent. And the only reason they are in power is because the US supports them.
People who got fucked by the Saudi royal family can easily be persuaded to hate the US because US acts and the enabler of all the fucked up shit that happens to them.
That makes it easy to build a really good business by committing the terrorist acts against the US.
But that still doesn't mean American civilians are somehow more innocent than other civilians.