100 Hackers... this is turning into a crazy drama filled thread.. I guess we can't even go a week without something fucked up happening..
BREAKING NEWS: BFHC HACKERS Shut Down MILNIC MEDIA Spam Operation
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Seriously, I hate spam just as much as everyone here. I'm not saying I never spam or anything like that. Phishing is not something I would ever consider doing, as that's something I believe to be immoral.
But it's at least just as immoral as letting honest people pay for someone else's mistakes (which is what's happening since MillnicMedia is down), that's like saying : "hey 1 jew, did us harm, now let's go harm all jews).
You're never going to fix spamming with that, if you want spam to stop or at least reduce spam, use your "hacking talents" to help improve people's sites, so they are less vulnerable to spam/phishing/whatever, much more effective and no honest people get hurt in the process.
But it's at least just as immoral as letting honest people pay for someone else's mistakes (which is what's happening since MillnicMedia is down), that's like saying : "hey 1 jew, did us harm, now let's go harm all jews).
You're never going to fix spamming with that, if you want spam to stop or at least reduce spam, use your "hacking talents" to help improve people's sites, so they are less vulnerable to spam/phishing/whatever, much more effective and no honest people get hurt in the process.
Seriously...Wtf? That's like saying, "I'm totally against homosexuals...However I'll take a cock in the ass every now and then. But when it comes to blowjobs, I don't do that. Hell no. It's immoral and degrading."
Your hypocrisy in the statement above completely null and voids anything you said thereafter.
After reading your blog post I was starting to come down on the side of you guys, but this shit just sounds so fuckin arrogant.
"Best CPA network" - best at what? best at letting some letting all your affiliates get fucked cos you don't take action when phishing/spam is reported to you?
"More money than God" - well, that's fuckin nice for ya ain't it. Why not spend some of your mountains of cash on improving your systems so this shit doesn't happen - or so when it does you have a plan b.
You claim that the attacks are from a phisher banned by millnic - care to share any evidence of this?
Thought you brits had a sense of humour... guess not.
My mom told me we are the best cpa network and frankly i believe her.
Missing a few days of earnings isn't going to hurt us. I've seen gods bank statements, he isn't doing NEARLY as well as he was back in the 14/1500's.
As for systems, we pay a pretty penny for the ones we have and frankly we are yet to see a better alternative. It is easy to sit on your high horse and say 'I am invincible! I have never been hit like that! I ruuule!!!' It is very different in the trenches.
And you are pimping Copeac - who is on EXACTLY the same system as us. And could just as easily be in the same situation and has experienced some downtime from this as well.
My mom told me we are the best cpa network and frankly i believe her.
Missing a few days of earnings isn't going to hurt us. I've seen gods bank statements, he isn't doing NEARLY as well as he was back in the 14/1500's.
As for systems, we pay a pretty penny for the ones we have and frankly we are yet to see a better alternative. It is easy to sit on your high horse and say 'I am invincible! I have never been hit like that! I ruuule!!!' It is very different in the trenches.
And you are pimping Copeac - who is on EXACTLY the same system as us. And could just as easily be in the same situation and has experienced some downtime from this as well.
LOL - your right on that one! Inquisition was more prob a lot more profitable than evangelism! Fuck asking for money, we'll just take it!
I'm not an expert in this, but are you saying that directtrack is the best system available, better than an in-house system? Going by the comments of others, it seems many would disagree.
You're right Copeac could easily have been hit and if they responded in the same way I would say the same to them. I'm promoting them because in my experience their service has been shit-hot.
The DT statement said only one other network was affected, could anyone please confirm if that was Copeac?
Seeing as money isn't a problem, can I ask if and when you will be compensating affiliates? To make a comparison, when there were tracking problems with the eBay program in April CJ made compensation payments, actually over-paid as a goodwill gesture - will you (and other affected networks) be doing something similar?
I'm not with you (at present) but I'm sure other affiliates would be interested in compensation - any payments made may be recoverable if/when you take action against the people behind this.
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You pay a pretty penny? You don't even have your own dedicated DirectTrack servers while COPEAC and CPAEmpire do. What the fuck are you talking about?
Great...some hackers hate the myspace phishing and take it out on everyone instead of targeting the phishers individually. If I'm not mistaken they tracked this said phisher for months and the best solution they came up with is a massive DDoS attack on DT datacenter? Fucking brilliant.
So since I hate myspace and I'm sick of some of the people I know talking about it 24/7 and I decide I will take matters into my own hands so I don't have to hear it anymore by massive DDoS attack on Myspace so their isn't anything to talk about. (DISCLAIMER: THIS IS A JOKE I WILL NOT ATTACK MYSPACE).
I also don't condone phishing but the spamming part...why the hell do you think they built myspace? To see who can get the biggest friends list?
ANOTHER DISCLAIMER: I don't spam myspace either. I don't use it. I don't go there. I hate it with a passion.
So since I hate myspace and I'm sick of some of the people I know talking about it 24/7 and I decide I will take matters into my own hands so I don't have to hear it anymore by massive DDoS attack on Myspace so their isn't anything to talk about. (DISCLAIMER: THIS IS A JOKE I WILL NOT ATTACK MYSPACE).
I also don't condone phishing but the spamming part...why the hell do you think they built myspace? To see who can get the biggest friends list?
ANOTHER DISCLAIMER: I don't spam myspace either. I don't use it. I don't go there. I hate it with a passion.
Well this seems to have turned into a bash Millnic Media Thread.
To address some people here -
1) If any of our affiliates are caught phishing they are terminated. It is in our TOS that we do not allow this activity.
2) If you would like to report phishing or illegal activity by any affiliates please feel free to email me at dan <at> millnicmedia.com
3) If you have any other beefs with us our contact information is on the website.
4) We try to have a sense of humor. As you can tell by our website we like to try and have fun at our jobs.
5) Jason's sense of humor often brings out the haters.
6) According to Digital River this attack would have brought down any network on thier system regardless of dedicated server or not.
I hope we can all get back to work soon. Many of us were effected by this attack.
If you have any questions or concerns feel free to contact me
Dan Nicol
Millnic Media
dnic24 - AIM
To address some people here -
1) If any of our affiliates are caught phishing they are terminated. It is in our TOS that we do not allow this activity.
2) If you would like to report phishing or illegal activity by any affiliates please feel free to email me at dan <at> millnicmedia.com
3) If you have any other beefs with us our contact information is on the website.
4) We try to have a sense of humor. As you can tell by our website we like to try and have fun at our jobs.
5) Jason's sense of humor often brings out the haters.
6) According to Digital River this attack would have brought down any network on thier system regardless of dedicated server or not.
I hope we can all get back to work soon. Many of us were effected by this attack.
If you have any questions or concerns feel free to contact me
Dan Nicol
Millnic Media
dnic24 - AIM
talked to the head of myspace abuse..
are you a rat? i smell a rat. you know no one likes a rat..
I don't see how just by showing a link in the comment section means someones a phisher. Sure, theres a pretty good chance that they are but a lot of people do that with accounts that they have made themselves.
AmazingHippy brought up an 'amazing' point, which you did not address -- Since you guys are sitting on oh-so-many pounds of cold hard cash, will you be compensating others who make their living through your website? Or will you simply chalk it up to 'experience' and 'lesson learned?'
It's pretty easy to see who's phishing. Multiple comments from different accounts on the same profile. Check the screenshot I posted a few pages back.
Again, there are those that make multiple accounts and send out friend requests with them. The person doing those comments could be doing that. I know people that get 10-20K accounts made a day. So it wouldn't be that far fetched that someone added two or more accounts from someone doing that.
What kind of moron makes 20k accounts to spam the same profile? Either way I'll look at the profiles before I report, it's pretty easy to see who's phishing and who isn't.
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