Baby drowns - mom gets 10 years

Shes a low life who would rather be sucking some guys virtual cock on facebook than taking care of her baby.
 


"She called 911 from her home in Fort Lupton, Colorado, last September when she found the toddler slumped over in the bathwater making "gurgling" sounds, according to an arrest warrant affidavit"

Does gurgling happen commonly after someone who has drowned has stopped breathing?

Sounds like if she knew how to do rescue breathing and CPR, the baby's life could have been saved. However, I don't expect such a fucktard like her to have a clue about what CPR even is.
 
I don't get peoples logic saying she doesn't deserve to be in jail...
Because you're not seeing the bigger picture, that's all.

If you bend the laws for everybody because what one stupid bitch did, then you create more harm than you are solving. And less freedom for all. (All laws are like that actually... Each new law proposed must weigh the rewards versus the trade-off in any civilized society.)

When you have a kid you have responsibilities to look after them. If this was a 4-5 year old kid then I could see it as an accident and no charges would make sense. But a 13 month old child? Come on... thats straight up neglect. She obviously didn't care about the child if she left it alone in a bath tub to play a fucking game.
Agreed. Heinous neglect, nothing less.

Personally I'm for her death. Death hurts HER. Sending her to Prison hurts ME.

And this shit has nothing to do with making money off her lmao.. They have enough people who get tossed in jail for shit like drugs. I'm sure the women who neglect their babies isn't a big money maker for the prison system..
It has everything to do with making money off of her, lmao. You just don't care much about that because you're uninformed, so you choose to make the issue just about your moral wants.

In this world we must weigh every action with it's consequences. Like the USA giving weapons to the Taliban in the 1970-1980's... Seemed like a good idea at the time...
 
lol what are you kidding? I guess the judge gets a quota he must meet every month eh?

And if you call this an accident where do you draw the line on whats ok and whats not? If she was allowed to get off the hook guess how many moms would start leaving their kids in bath tubs alone. I guess its ok because those would all be accidents too right?
 
lol what are you kidding?
No. Are you a moron?

I guess the judge gets a quota he must meet every month eh?
It's not about that at all. It's about opening floodgates.

And if you call this an accident where do you draw the line on whats ok and whats not? If she was allowed to get off the hook guess how many moms would start leaving their kids in bath tubs alone. I guess its ok because those would all be accidents too right?
Like I explained here, already in this thread, even if this was intentional, this is the wrong response.

I advise you to go back and read the first page of this thread, all your points have been covered already.
 
She could have said something a lot better than
because as an "independent" child he liked to be left alone, and that she did not want him to be "a mama's boy."
That would have saved her a couple of years of prison. Maybe she must have displayed some arrogant attitude or something to get 10 years?!

And what's about all the "Penal system looking for making more profit" shit? In the USA every time a case comes to the hearing do the judges and jurors think like "Now We have got a good case in our hands, we must help our corporate friends make some good profit off it, irrespective of the intensity of the crime" or something?? Hilarious shit I have heard in a long time. If that is true, Fuck it, Grow up big daddy USA.
 
She could have said something a lot better than That would have saved her a couple of years of prison. Maybe she must have displayed some arrogant attitude or something to get 10 years?!
Agreed. Shit like this happens often (more and more each year as our population's average IQ lowers yearly...) but you don't normally hear about it because the judgement is usually not prison time. This is an abnormal ruling.

And what's about all the "Penal system looking for making more profit" shit? In the USA every time a case comes to the hearing do the judges and jurors think like "Now We have got a good case in our hands, we must help our corporate friends make some good profit off it irrespective of the intensity of the crime" or something?? Hilarious shit I have heard in a long time. If that is true, Fuck it, Grow up big daddy USA.
Of course not, now you're being abnormal.

Corporations own the government here, plain and simple. The put all our politicians and judges in office, bar none. That's why we can go from someone like W to someone like Obama with no apparent change in our policies... Even despite being bribed with a nobel peace prize.

Juries try to do the right thing but they aren't given all the options they would be given if only the rest of the system wasn't corporation-driven.

Worse yet, our jury selection process usually gets rid of all of the potential jurors who can tell right from wrong, and you wind up with nothing but soap-opera addicts who are easily led astray.
 
Agreed. Shit like this happens often (more and more each year as our population's average IQ lowers yearly...) but you don't normally hear about it because the judgement is usually not prison time. This is an abnormal ruling.


Of course not, now you're being abnormal.

Corporations own the government here, plain and simple. The put all our politicians and judges in office, bar none. That's why we can go from someone like W to someone like Obama with no apparent change in our policies...
What you are suggesting above is "The USA penal system is kind of corrupt and the citizens of USA are not getting the justice"? Or am I missing something here?
Even despite being bribed with a nobel peace prize.

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If that is true, Fuck it, Grow up big daddy USA.

Pretty much across the USA there has been a hardline crackdown on anything remotely considered to be "child endangerment." The whole concept is so vauge and open to interpretation however, I'm suprised it is considered constitutional. Believe it or not, there have been people around here arreseted for child endangerment for falling asleep and their toddler walks out of the house and down the steet.

But even when its not intentional prison is sometimes the right thing. For example this which happend locally around here. Yeah, yeah, I know its not quite the same thing but both actions put a baby in danger and resulted in death.
 
No. Are you a moron?


It's not about that at all. It's about opening floodgates.


Like I explained here, already in this thread, even if this was intentional, this is the wrong response.

I advise you to go back and read the first page of this thread, all your points have been covered already.



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hahaha. So even if she intentionally left her kid in the tub to drown she still wouldn't deserve a prison sentence? thats the stu... Oh I see... Your trolling. Good one.
 
hahaha. So even if she intentionally left her kid in the tub to drown she still wouldn't deserve a prison sentence? thats the stu... Oh I see... Your trolling. Good one.
No I am not trolling you mental midget; the proper sentence is lethal injection or ol' sparky... Killing someone intentionally deserves death.

Pay attention next time. This is getting embarrasing talking down to you like this!
 
What you are suggesting above is "The USA penal system is kind of corrupt and the citizens of USA are not getting the justice"? Or am I missing something here?
You are not missing anything, the US penal system ONLY serves to make corporations richer... It does NOT rehabilitate people at all in any form at all whatsoever.

...At the taxpayer's expense!

-This doesn't surprise anyone here anymore. We are angry about prisons but it's far down on the list of things we are angry about because Corporations control our entire government, 100% of it, and therefore nothing here in america can possibly be "For the people" anymore.

It's now pronounced: "We the Profit Center."
 
No I am not trolling you mental midget; the proper sentence is lethal injection or ol' sparky... Killing someone intentionally deserves death.

Pay attention next time. This is getting embarrasing talking down to you like this!

Do you have kids? I doubt it, but lets hope you don't because it sounds like your trying to justify leaving kids alone in a tub full of water because you probably do it yourself.

Let me put it this way. Lets say your a retard who doesn't know how to swim. I pick you up and put you in a pool and leave you alone for 10 minutes. I come back and find you dead because you drowned. Who's at fault? Me. Why am I at fault? Because I know you're retarded and don't know how to swim, but I put you in a pool anyway and left you alone unsupervised. Thats a little beyond neglect. The prison sentence is warrant. Shes lucky she didn't get slapped for more time.

But here you come talking about all kinds of other stupid shit like she was put in prison because the government needs their money and all kinds of other stupid shit that has nothing to do with the case.
 
Do you have kids? I doubt it, but lets hope you don't because it sounds like your trying to justify leaving kids alone in a tub full of water because you probably do it yourself.
I see you haven't been reading my numerous posts here on parenting. I'm the guy that said I no one should be allowed, at all, to have children until they are multi-millionaires who can afford to have 20 nannies to look after each child 24/7.

I really do mean it when I say I'd be just fine with Executing this stupid bitch. -And most teen parents, too.

Lets say your a retard who doesn't know how to swim. I pick you up and put you in a pool and leave you alone for 10 minutes. I come back and find you dead because you drowned. Who's at fault? Me. Why am I at fault? Because I know you're retarded and don't know how to swim, but I put you in a pool anyway and left you alone unsupervised. Thats a little beyond neglect. The prison sentence is warrant. Shes lucky she didn't get slapped for more time.
Your tiny, midget mind just can't seem to grasp is the concept that a prison (note I'm not going into depth here on the fact that it's a corrupt US prison) isn't a one-size-fits-all solution.

What I'm trying very hard to instill in that pea-brain of yours is that we should always try to make the punishment fit the crime... In her case it is either Execution (If she intended to kill) or be put on some "not allowed to breed" list, if she didn't.

But you knew that, because you're obviously trolling me at that point... I clearly stated in my last post that "Killing someone deserves death." -How could you still be suggesting that she be let off scott free after I've said that?

Only way I can see is you're more retarded than the person this thread is about...


Why is it so hard for you retards to understand that there are many other, and usually always much more fitting, answers to crime than taxpayers putting them up in prison???!?!?!
 
I'm the guy that said I no one should be allowed, at all, to have children until they are multi-millionaires who can afford to have 20 nannies to look after each child 24/7.

Oh yeah, you're that guy, the fucking retard or the consistent troll. And you say it as if you know it's ridiculous "I'm the guy that said .." ; hinting at the troll possibility, which at least means you aren't the other option of 'fucking retard'.
 
"not allowed to breed" lists don't exist so whats your solution?

you obviously want her to be let off scott free. because you have some obsession with drowning babies.
 
Oh yeah, you're that guy, the fucking retard or the consistent troll. And you say it as if you know it's ridiculous "I'm the guy that said .." ; hinting at the troll possibility, which at least means you aren't the other option of 'fucking retard'.
1. I don't troll.

2. I do not think it is at all ridiculous, only very unlikely to be accepted in this nation of lazy retarded slaves, whose standards for important things like parenting are far beneath my own. (Like you and the fool I'm arguing against here today.)

On the contrary, I think it is necessary to a properly functioning nation and world. -Which we do not currently have anything like.

3. If memory serves, you bailed out of that parenthood thread soon after Shady came in and said I was "100% spot on" and immediately after I reminded you how bad it is in the rest of the world where low parenting standards made those places absolute shitholes.

Thanks for letting me know how you interpreted the outcome of that thread. It says a lot about you.


erifdekciw said:
"not allowed to breed" lists don't exist so whats your solution?
That's the smartest thing you've said all thread. Stay on this track and maybe we can have a productive discussion.

Make & enforce such a list, that would be an ideal solution... (BUT NOT WITH PRISON AS THE PUNISHMENT! Perhaps tax penalties, like the Chinese do? And of course forced sterilization should be a given.)

Short of that a great start would be to require parenting classes for every teen. -And not this pansy shit we have in school today, but real, serious, no-stone-unturned "what do you do in every possible situation" classes that you can't graduate high school without passing.

It's FAR more important than anything they could possibly learn in high school, so why not?

erifdekciw said:
you obviously want her to be let off scott free. because you have some obsession with drowning babies.
Oops, I spoke to soon. You're just a troll afterall. :action-smiley-052: