Alright, be honest. Who's legitimately happy?



I mean there has to be some pursuit of something, doesn't there?

Yeah, somewhat agreed. I'm the type will who probably never stop working. And if I ever get to the point where money will never again be an object in my personal life, then I'll probably do what many rich people do, and busy myself with philanthropy or something.

For example though, back in Vancouver would visit some friends or family, and probably majority of discussions centered around everyone's new projects, plans, the stresses and problems they bring, etc. For me at least, this creates a general uneasiness in society, which can be draining. Especially in our line of work (self-employed, decent coin, entrepreneurial, etc.), lots of people eye you up as someone who can help them, which can be even more draining.

Nobody is ever content though, because they all have one more thing / project they need to complete. Whether that's toning their abs, or launching a successful business, or selling their house, or whatever. Then once done, they start their next project. If they don't have one, they just make one up, even if they don't know why. Like you said, "maybe I need more short-term goals". Why?

In contrast, here's it's quite different, since it's a Buddhist society so things like greed will get you shunned by society. People are happy though. Everyone from the lady who runs the small neighborhood convenience store, the IT engineer, the commercial baker, the local mafia, etc. They just do their thing everyday, and are somehow totally content with it all, without worrying about bettering themselves.

Granted, that is somewhat a bad mindset to have, and it wants to make me put my head through a wall every once in a while. However, for me at least, I find it provides a nice balance. Up here in my office I have my to-do lists, whiteboard, projects & plans, people hitting me up from all angles for this & that, coming at me with new ideas, etc.

However, I simply go downstairs, and it's a totally different world. Hang out and chat up whoever's down there, have a drink, maybe go hang out with some of the neighbors on the street over a couple beer, go out with some friends for dinner or to a club, etc. Nobody is ever worried or stressed about the future, and everyone is just enjoying the fact that they're breathing.

I don't know, to each their own, but I find it provides a nice balance for myself personally. Irritates the hell out of me at times, but I also realize that's what keeps my soul calm, so I don't fret about it much. :)
 
For me, happiness is the absence of desire.

When I don't want anything, that's when I'm happiest.

So, I can either try to get everything in the world, so that I don't want anything because I already have it all...

...or I can work on reeling in my desires in order to live a more balanced life.

I wouldn't say that I'm happy, but I'm probably the least un-happy I've been in a long time.

For me, accomplishments have never resulted in happiness, no matter how large, it's something else.

100 times ^^^This.
 
However, I simply go downstairs, and it's a totally different world. Hang out and chat up whoever's down there, have a drink, maybe go hang out with some of the neighbors on the street over a couple beer, go out with some friends for dinner or to a club, etc. Nobody is ever worried or stressed about the future, and everyone is just enjoying the fact that they're breathing.

I don't know, to each their own, but I find it provides a nice balance for myself personally. Irritates the hell out of me at times, but I also realize that's what keeps my soul calm, so I don't fret about it much. :)

That sounds so awesome. Relocation has been my top priority as of late. Really need to get back to place that has sunlight and nice people where I can go for a walk or go to a random place and hangout. Also a little marijuana.
 
Gotta be square with you, bros... I'm not happy and haven't been for a long ass time. I have no idea if it's my workload, my deteriorating social/dating life or what but things just seem to be shit all of the time.

I love being an entrepreneur and the fast pace and challenges that come with it, and I love being a student at university learning incredibly interesting new things every single day. Someone pointed out to me the other day that I should feel awesome for helping >15+ people pay their bills and feed themselves, their kids, etc. each month and hey, that does feel nice.

I'm not sure I like the incredible amounts of stress, the lack of sleep every night, the never taking a day off... maybe that's the problem. I know for sure that I absolutely despise the city I'm living in and (generally speaking) the people that live here, so much so that I have a countdown app on my phone which I use to remind myself that the end is just 20ish months away. No shit, the second I finish my last exam I'm going to drive away from this place and never, ever return.

If you're reading this - are you happy? Better yet, if you are happy... when did you get there? Was there some BHAG (big hairy audacious goal) that you hit that flipped the "ON" switch, or did you have some life changing event like marriage / kids that finally got things going?

Fill me in. I've tried talking to head shrinkers and stuff but they put me into rage mode so fast that I actually wonder how I haven't ended up going on a rampage and smashing their office into smithereens.

Weak sales in BST, bro?
 
Not right now, I am NOT happy. I need to figure out a new business online that interests me. Google has wiped me out for right now.
 
I tried talking to a mentor (someone that I really trust) about this stuff and he told me something that I had never heard before... that I'm suffering as the result of being part of a dying breed.

I was like "what?" and he basically went through what he knew about me, and showed me that people like me are being stomped out by society. No one to defend, no enemies to defeat, no quests to achieve, no way to productively use my unending rage... no glory to find, and no one with any honor anymore.
Quoted on my FB for those who could use some encouragement
 
I am.

Read: Boundaries, 6 pillars of self esteem, and the Yes! attitude.

NICE !

Has anyone here done any psychedelic drugs? They always seem to come out it feeling clarity and bathed in love.

Word to the wise, you need a super great environment to have a loving warm-fuzzy acid trip (or any other kind of trip). You cant be inner-city with yelling neighbors and traffic etc.

Don't do a bunch of drugs you are going to trip out on stress super hard for like 8 hours.
 
If you're working 12+ hours a day, you're doing it wrong.


But honestly, I do agree with most of this thread. I don't plan on working and focusing on IM as much after 2-3 years. I'll basically be set financially unless something drastic happens.

But right now during this time I have a feeling that I want to achieve more or be doing other things. I know there's nothing else I should be focusing on with my life right now because this will get me out of all the student loan debts I have and get me whatever I want in the future. Then I'll be set. But I would say I was happier 2 years ago than I am at this time.

I'm sure that will change. But the end goal is worth the effort right now. I feel like I'm missing out on my prime years of my youth doing this, but I also am starting to feel disconnected from my friends. They're all moving into their stable relationships and jobs, and I can see how miserable they are. I guess I miss that I will be in a position to enjoy the rest of my life, but I might not have many other close friends to enjoy it with because they are all busy working or being in codependent relationships. Oh well.
 
I tried talking to a mentor (someone that I really trust) about this stuff and he told me something that I had never heard before... that I'm suffering as the result of being part of a dying breed.

I was like "what?" and he basically went through what he knew about me, and showed me that people like me are being stomped out by society. No one to defend, no enemies to defeat, no quests to achieve, no way to productively use my unending rage... no glory to find, and no one with any honor anymore.

I have no clue what that has to do with this discussion, but it stuck with me. Reminded me of a quote from Sin City: "Hell’s waking up every goddamn day and not even knowing why you’re here."

Hey bro,

You're not alone. Some of us needs to fight in the jungle and can't live in the zoo. Your mentor is right, that feeling is not new. I'll strongly recommend you to read this great book Freedom or Death [ame="http://www.amazon.com/Freedom-Death-Nikos-Kazantzakis/dp/057117857X"]Freedom or Death[/ame] by greek author Kazanzakis. It deals with exactly those themes of happines, family, glory, freedom and fighting. There are several characters you may associate with partially and fully.

It is, ironically, one of those 'what does it mean to be a man' books that they completely removed from the modern curriculum. It's a classic, read it and grow wiser hopefully. It's one of those books which meaning to you will probably change drastically as you age.
 
If you're working 12+ hours a day, you're doing it wrong.


But honestly, I do agree with most of this thread. I don't plan on working and focusing on IM as much after 2-3 years. I'll basically be set financially unless something drastic happens.

But right now during this time I have a feeling that I want to achieve more or be doing other things. I know there's nothing else I should be focusing on with my life right now because this will get me out of all the student loan debts I have and get me whatever I want in the future. Then I'll be set. But I would say I was happier 2 years ago than I am at this time.

I'm sure that will change. But the end goal is worth the effort right now. I feel like I'm missing out on my prime years of my youth doing this, but I also am starting to feel disconnected from my friends. They're all moving into their stable relationships and jobs, and I can see how miserable they are. I guess I miss that I will be in a position to enjoy the rest of my life, but I might not have many other close friends to enjoy it with because they are all busy working or being in codependent relationships. Oh well.

Sounds like me. lol
 
The lack of a philosophy, and the pursuit of personal achievement is not a problem you can lay at the feet of technology, society, government or culture.

It's each individual's responsibility to find a raison d'être (reason to be) in this world. 100s of thousands of people do it successfully every day.

Successful people take responsibility for changing their world.
 
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You know, it's funny. The other day I tried to just hit STOP and analyze where I am to try to get this shit sorted out.

I have a business that I'm working insane hours on because I want (/need, otherwise being an independent pharmacist won't be easy. Capital intensive) to be debt-free when I graduate from school.

I'm in school because after a decade of searching to be sure, I realized that I do love health care as a career.

I want a career, because I want something a lot more stable than what I was doing before (entrepreneurship) as one day, I'd like to have a family and I don't want to subject children to the upbringing I had.

...but when I got to the end, I was left wondering when I started wanting any of this stuff. Family, career, business, volunteering, whatever.

I was a kid with nothing who made himself into a man with something, and now I'm a man with plenty that seems to want nothing.

The only constant in all of this an unending river of blinding rage that I've grown to control, and can embrace to help me push through to accomplishing whatever it is I'm trying to strive for.

Which apparently, at this point in life, is nothing.

Fuck.

I don't know you so don't take any of this too serious. :)

You seem to have no idea what you actually want to do with your life. And you're afraid that if you don't figure it out quickly - it might be too late. Let's face it, it takes a long time to build up a good professional career and a businessman who is perma-broke is not really in business.

I don't buy into the "we're awesome and that is why there's no place for us in this world which is making us fucking depressed and pathetic" crap.

It's more like "you are not really all that awesome and have chosen a really difficult path in life. Good luck. A few of you will make it while the rest are going to spend the next 10 or so years grinding 12 hours/day wondering wtf is going to happen once you turn 35-40-whatever".

Having no social life and spending 12 hour days in front of your pc doesn't make you awesome (well there are probably a few members here who are truly awesome geeks, but that's it lol). It doesn't make you a hard working businessman, either.

Take some time off and figure out what you want to do with your life man.

/Obviously everyone on WF is awesome and none of this applies to anyone here.
 
Weak sales in BST, bro?

Only one one of our services - the press releases. The good news is that the margin is terrible on selling that in BST - it's actually more profitable to spend $50 in AdWords to get 1 sale than it is to get 1 from the BST.

No shock, though. Everything else is going well...we're growing at >100% a month right now which has been challenging to manage.
 
I don't know you so don't take any of this too serious. :)

You seem to have no idea what you actually want to do with your life. And you're afraid that if you don't figure it out quickly - it might be too late. Let's face it, it takes a long time to build up a good professional career and a businessman who is perma-broke is not really in business.

I don't buy into the "we're awesome and that is why there's no place for us in this world which is making us fucking depressed and pathetic" crap.

It's more like "you are not really all that awesome and have chosen a really difficult path in life. Good luck. A few of you will make it while the rest are going to spend the next 10 or so years grinding 12 hours/day wondering wtf is going to happen once you turn 35-40-whatever".

Having no social life and spending 12 hour days in front of your pc doesn't make you awesome (well there are probably a few members here who are truly awesome geeks, but that's it lol). It doesn't make you a hard working businessman, either.

Take some time off and figure out what you want to do with your life man.

/Obviously everyone on WF is awesome and none of this applies to anyone here.

I took some time off after high school (10 years) to figure out what I wanted to do with my life, and now I'm doing it. I initially came here to go into medicine to become a pediatrician (in b4 pedobear jokes) but realized after I got into my backup/pre-med degree (pharmacy) that I very much like community pharmacy, and it pairs up much better with my entrepreneurial background and skillset. Thus changing my envisioned future but at the same time saving myself an additional 4 years of school and $100,000 in tuition.

So... yeah, thank you for the insight but I think I won't be stopping to take more time off to come to the same conclusion.