aesthetic as fuark

Riding bicycles can kill.

It's funny, Grindstone can come on here and post about how everyone needs to risk their lives more to feel alive (I agree)... go mtn biking, snow boarding, sky diving.. anything that gets the adrenaline pumping bc you only live once. Everybody supports that shit... but the same people get all superior and judgmental when someone else's version of living on the edge doesn't make sense to them.
 


To me, this is why Zyzz is someone to admire:

He could've built his body and gone without the makeup and lesbian haircut, kept his shirt on, and pulled his pants up above the root of his dick. And also lived.

BTW, I'm not anti-steroid or anti-liveyourlife/takerisks, and a 8+ year member of BB.com
 
I think it's safe to say you don't know who this kid was, how he acted, or the shit he took.

What's with the assumptions? I do know who he was. Been reading the Bodybuilding forums for a few years, where him and a few of his friends used to post.

I also know what steroid cycles he did.

I've been working out for the last 5 years. Never took anything except regular protein and recovery supplements. There's people in my gym on steroids and others aren't. I know how difficult it is either way.
 
Sick of all the hate on Zyzz. Nothing wrong with mirin a bro's aesthetics.

If you can honestly say that this pic of him doesn't make you jealous, then you're lying to yourself.
 
It's not illegal to take steroids (in the UK at least). They are regularly prescribed by doctors for physical rehab and other things. All steroids do in essence is boost the amount of testosterone in your body, while others are there just to stop negative side effects. Nothing wrong with supplements, other than increased kidney function.

Whether he was blatant about it or not is irrelevant. You don't just take steroids and get buff. You still have to eat right and go to the gym religiously to look like he did, granted genetics helped him a lot. Doing it without steroid would have taken longer, he would have still have to do the rest and probably work harder (more risk to his heart).

A lot of athletes take steroids at some point, as well as HGH, there have also been a lot who have had heart attacks (two this year that I know about in football) due to underlying heart defects that were not previously known about.

Wrong, wrong an wrong.

Steroids do not boost testosterone, they shut down natural production and replace it with testosterone from the outside (many, many times the maximum natural potential). That's why your balls shrink and you need another drug to get your natural production going after your cycle.

And you do get buff just from steroids. There have been studies comparing muscle growth with steroids and without and the results were that taking a (small) dose of testosterone and NOT working out still gives you more muscle gain than working out without steroids.

No, you can't look like Zyzz without steroids unless you're the 1% with amazing genetics. The view on what is possible naturally has been heavily manipulated because so many people use steroids and claim to be natural. Go look at bodybuilders before steroids and see what they look like.

Last, women do not find steroid physiques attractive, except a few women who have the female equivalent of males going for huge silicone tits.

Do what you want, but I personally would only ever consider steroids with a highly skilled doctor to administer them and monitor your health.

The real shame with steroids is that they have corrupted all professional sports to the degree where people would think clean sports are boring to watch.

American athletes are particularly bad in this regard. Do they ever even drugtest? It seems obvious to me that steroid abuse is rampant in the NBA and NFL.
 
Wtf are you guys doing comparing the bodys of these guys? Fuck this thread I'm outta here
 
No, you can't look like Zyzz without steroids unless you're the 1% with amazing genetics. The view on what is possible naturally has been heavily manipulated because so many people use steroids and claim to be natural. Go look at bodybuilders before steroids and see what they look like.

Last, women do not find steroid physiques attractive, except a few women who have the female equivalent of males going for huge silicone tits.

Zyzz didn't have a "steroid" physique, not like what you're claiming. Most people state that for being on a ridiculous amount of steroids, he isn't big at all and I agree, but he also wasn't doing it to look like a roided out mass bodybuilder, he was doing it for "aesthetics".

I also agree the bodybuilding/fitness industry has fucked up the public's perception of what is possible without getting into anabolics, but at the same time I think people forget what is possible if you aren't trying to become the next mr. olympia anyways.

Zyzz's physique isn't impossible to the natural guys because of the drugs he was using, it's impossible (99%) because of his muscle insertions and shape that give him a unique look. Those two things aren't possible to manipulate, no matter what steroids you are on. (synthol aside)

All bullshit aside, getting to his leaness and size can be done naturally in a few years without steroids (for the average person, not people that look less than 100 lbs soaking wet like zyzz did before he started) if you really have your diet on point, just realize you probably still won't look anything like him.
 
Wrong, wrong an wrong.

Steroids do not boost testosterone, they shut down natural production and replace it with testosterone from the outside (many, many times the maximum natural potential). That's why your balls shrink and you need another drug to get your natural production going after your cycle.

Semantics but okay, you win. I should have been more anal with my use of increase instead of boost.

And you do get buff just from steroids. There have been studies comparing muscle growth with steroids and without and the results were that taking a (small) dose of testosterone and NOT working out still gives you more muscle gain than working out without steroids.

Muscle gain is not the same as buff. Again semantics.

No, you can't look like Zyzz without steroids unless you're the 1% with amazing genetics. The view on what is possible naturally has been heavily manipulated because so many people use steroids and claim to be natural. Go look at bodybuilders before steroids and see what they look like.

Zyzz barely had a steroid physique relatively speaking. There are plenty of guys out there who have far more lean muscle. Zyzz's physique was basically very low body fat on a reasonable amount of muscle.

I have a couple of friends not on steroids who I trained with for the last 6 years, who have cut body fat for the summer and are fairly close to the Zyzz look.

Last, women do not find steroid physiques attractive, except a few women who have the female equivalent of males going for huge silicone tits.

Do what you want, but I personally would only ever consider steroids with a highly skilled doctor to administer them and monitor your health.

Do women find being fat and unhealthy attractive? There are a lot of options in between looking like Jay Cutler and Russell Brand. Someone like Zyzz would have had to train for 10 years before he could get anywhere near what he looked like before he died without steroids.

Hard gainers struggle to put on 5kg a year.