Obama supports plan for mosque near ground zero

[kblessinggr]

Sure the bible says spare the rod spoil the child in there. I'd rather take something like that literally than "exterminate all non-believers". I hate comparing the two religions because it is so off topic from this issue but it seems unavoidable because all you liberals come out from under the woodwork any chance you get to bash Christianity (and Jews in this case I guess).

Actually I was refering more these which a "true" christian (or Jew if you cut out Proverbs) would have to follow if we were to go by the logic that a true muslim holds every word of the Quran to be truth and must be obeyed:

Proverbs 30:17

The eye that mocks a father and scorns to obey a mother will be picked out by the ravens of the valley and eaten by the vultures.

Deuteronomy 21:18-21

“If a man has a stubborn and rebellious son who will not obey the voice of his father or the voice of his mother, and, though they discipline him, will not listen to them, (19) then his father and his mother shall take hold of him and bring him out to the elders of his city at the gate of the place where he lives, (20) and they shall say to the elders of his city, ‘This our son is stubborn and rebellious; he will not obey our voice; he is a glutton and a drunkard.’ (21) Then all the men of the city shall stone him to death with stones. So you shall purge the evil from your midst, and all Israel shall hear, and fear.

Exodus 21:15-17

Whoever strikes his father or his mother shall be put to death. (16) “Whoever steals a man and sells him, and anyone found in possession of him, shall be put to death. (17) “Whoever curses his father or his mother shall be put to death.

as opposed to the far more popular 'discipline your children' verse of Proverbs 23:13 that you mentioned.

Let me say this, if you think Christians or Jews have been more responsible for violence in the name of religion than Muslims in the past 35 years, you're FUCKING insane. No I don't have some weird ass statistic for this, its coming fucking sense. No does that need to be changed, absolutely. But people who can't admit that to themselves I don't even bother trying to argue because you're just lying to yourselves. So please stop comparing Christianity with Muslims. Yeah you can go back to the crusades sure they were worse them, but this is 2010 homies the problem isn't the Christians with violence. Sure they have their problems with the priests, but afaik they aren't trying to exterminate all non believers,

(Preparing myself for the racist comments because I told the truth).

But I don't see what this has to do with a constitutional right to build mosque, church or any religious facility on private property.

 

[adigitalorange]

But I don't see what this has to do with a constitutional right to build mosque, church or any religious facility on private property.

It doesn't have anything to do it. I am just trying to shut up everyone who thinks priests raping little boys is on the same level as killing thousands. Sure priests raping little boys are terrible and those priests are some sick bastards. But last I checked I haven't seen a Christian try to fly a few airplanes into a few buildings killing thousands in the name of religion. Sorry, that is just a fact. Again, I apologize if you don't like it, these are just the facts.

In terms of the people following the bible exactly yeah we can go back and forth with quotes from the bible about the literal followers. Last I checked though Christians haven't been killing people in the name of religion, Muslims have. You can go back and forth with your bullshit arguments trying to compare Christianity but the fact of the matter is IN THIS DAY AND AGE there is one religion that TRUMPS every single other religion when it comes to "killing in the name of religion", and those are Muslims. Are are Muslims like that? Hell no. Are most? Hell no. Are there a few? Yes. Last I checked though no Christian tried to fly any fucking planes into two huge towers.

Sorry that is just the way it is, these are fucks that cannot be argued with. Stop trying to put radical Christians in this day and age on the same level as the radical Muslims, anyone with any common sense can see how stupid you sound.

 

[adigitalorange]

Sorry if no one likes it. That is just the way it is. Same thing with unrelated problems when people like Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton call everything racist. If the liberals would get out of the way and just recognize the problems we have we would be a whole lot better of as a country versus arguing whether or not Christians are worse than Muslims or if I am racist because I said more black people are in prison than white.

Wake up people, these are real fucking problems that need real fucking solutions, not some stupid debate about which religion is worse or whether or not someone is racist for stating the truth.

I long for the day when you liberals will quit your whining so we can actually start working on fixing the problems instead of arguing about bullshit that doesn't matter.

 

[kblessinggr]

It doesn't have anything to do it. I am just trying to shut up everyone who thinks priests raping little boys is on the same level as killing thousands. Sure priests raping little boys are terrible and those priests are some sick bastards. But last I checked I haven't seen a Christian try to fly a few airplanes into a few buildings killing thousands in the name of religion. Sorry, that is just a fact. Again, I apologize if you don't like it, these are just the facts.

In terms of the people following the bible exactly yeah we can go back and forth with quotes from the bible about the literal followers. Last I checked though Christians haven't been killing people in the name of religion, Muslims have. You can go back and forth with your bullshit arguments trying to compare Christianity but the fact of the matter is IN THIS DAY AND AGE there is one religion that TRUMPS every single other religion when it comes to "killing in the name of religion", and those are Muslims. Are are Muslims like that? Hell no. Are most? Hell no. Are there a few? Yes. Last I checked though no Christian tried to fly any fucking planes into two huge towers.

Sorry that is just the way it is, these are fucks that cannot be argued with. Stop trying to put radical Christians in this day and age on the same level as the radical Muslims, anyone with any common sense can see how stupid you sound.

And I'm saying not all muslims are like that, as *some* namely most american born and immigrant muslims are trying to go the same route that the Christians did, as Christians were once literal interpreter of the bible and using it as justification for their deeds. Trying to rid an entire religious group as a whole because a % (30-40 it doesn't matter) of those who kill in it's name isn't going to make matters any better, instead it may actually strengthen the radicals' resolve, thus risking reverting back the followers who have been making progress into 'modern' social times. Also most of the radicals live in countries that may as well be 3rd world, their knowledge and view of the world distorted, those on the american soil actually trying to make a living and do good by their family and faith, they are the future of Islam if we'll allow it. IF you want to go by the bible... evil begets evil.

 

[Soupyone]

Sorry if no one likes it. That is just the way it is. Same thing with unrelated problems when people like Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton call everything racist. If the liberals would get out of the way and just recognize the problems we have we would be a whole lot better of as a country versus arguing whether or not Christians are worse than Muslims or if I am racist because I said more black people are in prison than white.

Wake up people, these are real fucking problems that need real fucking solutions, not some stupid debate about which religion is worse or whether or not someone is racist for stating the truth.

I long for the day when you liberals will quit your whining so we can actually start working on fixing the problems instead of arguing about bullshit that doesn't matter.

LOL, Jesse Jackson. LOL

I can tell you listen to Fox News, they've been attacking him for years.

Jesse Jackson is a pioneer. Heck, he was the guy that MLK Jr. was talking to from the balcony when he was assassinated.

Just quit, there are no "you liberals". Just people like you vs the world.

 

[ly2 from WF]

Jesse Jackson is a pioneer.

In what? Race baiting?

 

[adigitalorange]

Just quit, there are no "you liberals". Just people like you vs the world.

Nah, sorry buddy. Thank God half this country realizes there is people like you out there, which is why Conservatives are up in the polls and are expected to take back the house this November, because people realize the stupidity of "you liberals". Trust me they exist and they are out there, I see them everyday.

To see there is just people like me versus the world is fucking moronic, there is millions and millions of people in this country who would agree with everything I just said (hence the people who didn't vote for Obama), but hey I guess 40/45% of the population of a country with 310 million people doesn't matter, cause those are just people like me right?

 

[Soupyone]

In what? Race baiting?

Pick up a history book what he did in Syria & Cuba alone makes him commendable.

How he was the first ACTUAL viable african-american candidate Presidential makes him commendable.

I'd go on, but I'm sure you could just read the wiki.

 

[Dwight Schrute]

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Shakedown: Exposing The Real Jesse Jackson

How about Jesse Jackson using Rainbow Coalition funds to pay his mistress with whom he had an illegitimate child?

Yeah, he's a pioneer in fucking things. (White people, corporations, and skanks)

 

[Soupyone]

Nah, sorry buddy. Thank God half this country realizes there is people like you out there, which is why Conservatives are up in the polls and are expected to take back the house this November, because people realize the stupidity of "you liberals". Trust me they exist and they are out there, I see them everyday.

To see there is just people like me versus the world is fucking moronic, there is millions and millions of people in this country who would agree with everything I just said (hence the people who didn't vote for Obama), but hey I guess 40/45% of the population of a country with 310 million people doesn't matter, cause those are just people like me right?

Yep, people like me.

America is just teeming with Classical Liberals.

Conservatives are just as stupid as the rest of them, just too narrow-minded to notice.

Also, if you think Obama is going to lose this election you're in for a real treat.

BTW, the only thing conservatives are actually conservative over is what people do behind closed doors. Both parties spend like there's no tomorrow. Just on different things.

 

[ly2 from WF]

Pick up a history book what he did in Syria & Cuba alone makes him commendable.

How he was the first ACTUAL viable african-american candidate Presidential makes him commendable.

I'd go on, but I'm sure you could just read the wiki.

Oh please. Fucking guy is an anti-semitic, racist, race baiting pile of shit. For fucks sakes he speaks at New Black Panther Party events. In case you don't know, the NBPP is a *hate group*.

FUCK Jesse Jackson.

 

[Dwight Schrute]

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One thing I do agree with Jesse. I'd love to cut Barack's nuts off.

 

[Soupyone]

Oh please. Fucking guy is an anti-semitic, racist, race baiting pile of shit. For fucks sakes he speaks at New Black Panther Party events. In case you don't know, the NBPP is a *hate group*.

FUCK Jesse Jackson.

My dad was a black panther in Chicago during the days Jesse was running around up there and my dad's no where near racist.

You sound like you're a young guy so I don't expect you to see things in shades of gray when it comes to "black power", but while I know very little about the "new" pathers - I know the old ones were fighting for a good cause (an ends justifies the means thing). Most of the people like my dad that were panthers ended up as professionals in positions of power.

It's interesting to see people liken them to the KKK.

But, yes... Please do dismiss all of his accomplishments and just call him names. lol

The only thing I'll concede without consideration is Sharpton.

I met him when I was standing in line with my mother to go through an airport metal detector. She said "well, hello Mr. Sharpton!" and he just gave her this blank "fuck you" stare. I'll never forget that.

 

[stmadeveloper]

Crazy theory (and i'm just screwing around here)

They will build it because it isn't illegal for them to do so.

Some crazy will burn it down.

Muslim riots will happen.

Obama (government) will declare an emergency.... suspending certain rights and privileges.

Muslims will be rounded up and held in concentration camps.

Gas chambers will be erected.

Obama will invade other countries and create a secret police system.

Jesus will come back to grab the quick, dead, and believers.

There will be 7 years of tribulation.

Everyone will have to have something tattooed on them to allow them to buy and sell.

A growing resistance will believe strongly in god, and miracles will assist them in fighthing the now proven anti-christ (come on - you already knew Obama was the anti-christ).

Only 3 people on wickedfire today will survive.

 

[JohnShepherd]

Timothy McVeigh was catholic. Why the fuck are we allowing churches to be built near destroyed buildings.

And why are we allowing Catholic churches next to children's playgrounds given all those cases of pedophilia. And why are we allowing Jews to wear yamakas on Friday when in reality its a celebration of them killing Jesus.

Also, those saying the proposed imam is a radical, get that sand out of your vaginas!! What he said was that the US didn't deserve the attacks, but that they weren't surprising given their meddling in foreign affairs. The religious right is trying sooooo hard to pretend that's a radical statement...when in reality, Glenn Beck said the same thing multiple times on his program. Of course when Beck says it, it's the truth, and when a Muslim says it, it's extremism. Sure, that makes sense :repuke:

And to those saying "the Muslims should have more strongly condemned 9/11": You mean like the church condemned the Nazis in WW2? Oh...wait a second...THEY DIDN'T!! I guess that makes all Christians Nazis, right? Right? Because the actions of a few of them clearly shows that all of them are racists assholes, right?

Kinda sad that freedom and liberties have been exchanged for religious and racial paranoia in the US

 

[Unarmed Gunman]

Soupyone - you're seriously defending Jesse Jackson? Hymietown Jesse Jackson? Tawana Brawley Jesse Jackson? Shakedown Jesse Jackson? Cutting Obama's nuts off Jesse Jackson? He may have been with Dr. King the day he was killed, but he sure as fuck doesn't represent what Dr. King stood for, and to try and compare the two shows you have zero knowledge of his history of race-baiting divisive politics for personal gain.

Turbo - How the fuck can you come in here to defend a religion that treats women as property and gives zero fucking rights to gays, or other religious and political thought? We're not even talking radicals here - mainstream Islam goes against all things progressive, yet so called progressives are the first to defend their shit.

Why are we so quick to shield a religion with a constitution that contains rights that the religion doesn't even believe in, nor extend to its adherents?

 

[ly2 from WF]

It's interesting to see people liken them to the KKK.

What the fuck?

They talk about slaughtering white babies, what the fuck would you call them? A peace group? They are fucking racists through and through.
Any group whos sole purpose is to promote the well-being of that particular race is a racist group.

Can I have a group dedicated to the well-being of whites? No? Well why not? Because it's fucking racist and the only ones in this country who AREN'T allowed to be racist are whites.

Here is the leader of your precious peace group AKA The New Black Panther Party:

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No bro, not racist at all. I just don't understand the greys. Get the fuck outta here with that bullshit.

 

[popeye]

Pick up a history book what he did in Syria & Cuba alone makes him commendable.

How he was the first ACTUAL viable african-american candidate Presidential makes him commendable.

I'd go on, but I'm sure you could just read the wiki.

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[adigitalorange]

And why are we allowing Catholic churches next to children's playgrounds given all those cases of pedophilia. And why are we allowing Jews to wear yamakas on Friday when in reality its a celebration of them killing Jesus.

Also, those saying the proposed imam is a radical, get that sand out of your vaginas!! What he said was that the US didn't deserve the attacks, but that they weren't surprising given their meddling in foreign affairs. The religious right is trying sooooo hard to pretend that's a radical statement...when in reality, Glenn Beck said the same thing multiple times on his program. Of course when Beck says it, it's the truth, and when a Muslim says it, it's extremism. Sure, that makes sense :repuke:

And to those saying "the Muslims should have more strongly condemned 9/11": You mean like the church condemned the Nazis in WW2? Oh...wait a second...THEY DIDN'T!! I guess that makes all Christians Nazis, right? Right? Because the actions of a few of them clearly shows that all of them are racists assholes, right?

Kinda sad that freedom and liberties have been exchanged for religious and racial paranoia in the US

Holy fucking flying batman, another liberal comparing Christianity to Islam! Wow didn't see that one coming, NOT!

And for the idiot above that said there is no such thing as "you liberals" that I have been describing, those being the ones like this prick who bring up other religions and point the finger instead of trying to solve the problem at hand.

Don't believe me? Check out digg's top story today:

Thoughts on Islamic Center in NY [Image]

I'm sure you can find just as many comments like the ones in there bashing Christians over on Reddit as well.

I can't believe you actually had the balls to say "you liberals" don't exist. Literally a day doesn't go by when I don't hear a liberal bitch and whine about the Christians and how bad of people they are. "You liberals" definitely exist, again I can't believe you have to balls to even try and say they don't. Again, check out digg, perfect example of what I deal with every day, typical young liberals spouting off about how evil Christians are and how oppressive they are. Again, has nothing to do with the problem at hand, but fuck let's not give up ANY chance we have to bitch about the Christians will we?! Maybe not "all of you liberals" act like that, but there is a definite fucking portion that does, and to deny that is ludicrous and only discredits your position.

 

[ly2 from WF]

Turbo - How the fuck can you come in here to defend a religion that treats women as property and gives zero fucking rights to gays, or other religious and political thought? We're not even talking radicals here - mainstream Islam goes against all things progressive, yet so called progressives are the first to defend their shit.

Why are we so quick to shield a religion with a constitution that contains rights that the religion doesn't even believe in, nor extend to its adherents?

Because the lefts hatred for the right is so strong they will side with anyone, even muslims, before agreeing with the right on anything.

That or because liberalism is a fucking mental disorder.

...or both.