Chopper Gunner Indiscretion: Innocent People Hammered With 30mm Rounds



All looks like fairly standard operating procedure not sure why everyones so upset. Motherfuckers shouldn't walk around holding things that look like ak47s and RPGs in crouched positions looking at helicoptors.

What kingfish said
 
The Brits went underground when attacked by German bombers. Just looking for that same amount of common sense.

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wait wat? didn't your Commander in chief back then officially proclaim that all major battle operations are over?...
 
lol arm chair generals lol

I wish the cess pool known as Reddit would have went as nuts over a journalist getting his head sawed off with a dull knife by the "religeon of peace"
 
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wait wat? didn't your Commander in chief back then officially proclaim that all major battle operations are over?...

Insurgents are killing scores daily out in the streets but they decide to go out anyways because Bush told them so?!??! Hopefully you really don't belive in the statement you just typed?
 
For 5 years?

Doesn't matter if it was 20 years. If I know there are blood thristy insurgents roaming the streets and attack helicopters in the sky looking for said insurgents, I would use common sense and stay indoors as much as I possibly could.
 
I watched the entire video and tbh would not like to be one of those guys having to make decisions. The guys on the ground and in the air have been trained to kill, to expect everyone to be a danger and have to live every minute in fear that someone dressed as a local is not going to run out with a bomb strapped to themselves.

If there were mistakes made its not all the fault of the guy firing the weapon, its at command level for not having the right system in place. As for the jokes and laughter, I cant see any other way of dealing with blowing people to bits with high powered weapons.
Your a moron. It's not the fault of the guys firing the weapon? They were begging the command to give them the okay too shoot them. Even if their command gave them the okay, its completely obvious that they were just trying to take the bodies out of there. None of us can comprehend what these people are going through and we converse about the situation so non-chalantly and say fuck iraq and fuck them and who gives a fuck about whats going on over there. The soliders were giggling about running over their dead bodies and calling them dead bastards, thats fucking disgusting.
 
Doesn't matter if it was 20 years. If I know there are blood thristy insurgents roaming the streets and attack helicopters in the sky looking for said insurgents, I would use common sense and stay indoors as much as I possibly could.

Ever tried living indoors for 5 years? Or 20. Just asking to find out if you actually know what you're talking about.
 
Ever tried living indoors for 5 years? Or 20. Just asking to find out if you actually know what you're talking about.

Your point? It doesn't fuckin matter to any "sane" person. If people are dying in the streets outside your damn house....do you take a chance of getting blown the fuck up to walk your dog??

I really can't believe I'm having to argue the point of STAYING INSIDE WHEN WAR IS BEING WAGED IN YOUR FRONTYARD.
 
Your point? It doesn't fuckin matter to any "sane" person. If people are dying in the streets outside your damn house....do you take a chance of getting blown the fuck up to walk your dog??

I really can't believe I'm having to argue the point of STAYING INSIDE WHEN WAR IS BEING WAGED IN YOUR FRONTYARD.
Your not arguing about staying inside when war is being waged, your arguing about the civilians going to help the wounded while war is waged. If you were "sane" then you would go help your family and friends or countrymen when you see that they have been shot outside. Walking your dog has nothing to do with this, that was a very very stupid comparison. Your practically calling these people insane for going to help out others. If you were wounded outside, and someone came and saved you would you call them insane? Fuck no
 
Your point? It doesn't fuckin matter to any "sane" person. If people are dying in the streets outside your damn house....do you take a chance of getting blown the fuck up to walk your dog??

I really can't believe I'm having to argue the point of STAYING INSIDE WHEN WAR IS BEING WAGED IN YOUR FRONTYARD.

lolwut. That, and I'd say it definitely depends on how demanding your dog is.
 
Your not arguing about staying inside when war is being waged, your arguing about the civilians going to help the wounded while war is waged. If you were "sane" then you would go help your family and friends or countrymen when you see that they have been shot outside. Walking your dog has nothing to do with this, that was a very very stupid comparison. Your practically calling these people insane for going to help out others. If you were wounded outside, and someone came and saved you would you call them insane? Fuck no


Sigh.............The point of the matter is If you are a civillian and if you are in a warzone for ANY reason, there is a good chance you might get capped. The copter pilots WOULD NOT have unloaded on civilians if they would have known they were innocents. We have the most professional millitary in the world. I have known plenty of soldiers that have risked their own lives to keep Iraqi innocents out of harms way.

A warzone is all about killing the enemy first before they can kill you. If you go out into a warzone with tripods, cameras with telescopic lens and so forth than you up your chance to get shot and the poor souls that help you will probably get shot as well.

War is hell. It's hell because not only do soldiers die but innocents do as well. This isn't the first time innocents have died by accident and it won't be the last. It sucks but what can you do about it.
 
What about if America didn't go to war in the first place???
 
What about if America didn't go to war in the first place???

That might strand our dollar. From The End Of Dollar Hegemony by Ron Paul...

In November 2000 Saddam Hussein demanded Euros for his oil. His arrogance was a threat to the dollar; his lack of any military might was never a threat. At the first cabinet meeting with the new administration in 2001, as reported by Treasury Secretary Paul O’Neill, the major topic was how we would get rid of Saddam Hussein-- though there was no evidence whatsoever he posed a threat to us. This deep concern for Saddam Hussein surprised and shocked O’Neill.

It now is common knowledge that the immediate reaction of the administration after 9/11 revolved around how they could connect Saddam Hussein to the attacks, to justify an invasion and overthrow of his government. Even with no evidence of any connection to 9/11, or evidence of weapons of mass destruction, public and congressional support was generated through distortions and flat out misrepresentation of the facts to justify overthrowing Saddam Hussein.

There was no public talk of removing Saddam Hussein because of his attack on the integrity of the dollar as a reserve currency by selling oil in Euros. Many believe this was the real reason for our obsession with Iraq. I doubt it was the only reason, but it may well have played a significant role in our motivation to wage war. Within a very short period after the military victory, all Iraqi oil sales were carried out in dollars. The Euro was abandoned.
 
I have hated this war from day one, and never thought it was justified. I fucking hated George Bush for lying to the American people to justify the invasion, and I would have gladly seen him impeached and removed from office for it. I actually sympathized with the plight of the people we were fucking over, and felt guilty that my tax dollars were being used to fund it. Over the last year or so, my feelings on this whole thing have changed 180 degrees though.

In regards to this video, the pilots clearly believe the guys on the ground were insurgents with RPG's and AK's so I don't see the big deal about that part. They probably shouldn't have opened up on the van since it seemed obvious that they were trying to evacuate an injured, unarmed man. They also shouldn't have joked about the tank running over the body.

However, the guy trying to blow up a plane over Detroit a few months back was the last straw for me. That was a plane of civilians without any military target in mind. My daughter flew up here (into the same airport) from Dallas two days later and was scared to death and that's when it really hit home for me.

Islam is NOT a religion of peace, and anybody that makes excuses for them anymore can go die in a fire. Here is my message to Muslims everywhere - if you want the US out of your backyard, and if you want to be treated like everyone else, and want your religious values respected then do us all and your selves a favor - kill your zealots. It's your own fault that this is still going on, and it will never get better if you don't.

Every time you try to blow up a planeload of innocent people I hope a million of your Muslim brothers get raped by a bag of Jewish dicks and that your children are fed to pigs. If you stupid mother fuckers don't put your own people in check and stop allowing the violent Muslims amongst you to set the religious agenda for the rest, then you have no more mercy or sympathy from me, and I would imagine a lot more people are tired of your shit now too.

Either take control of your nutjobs and straighten the fuck out, or for all I'm concerned we can press a button and my kids can just read about your asses in their history books.