I recieved a C&D from Facebook

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Hey guys, it is with much regret and sadness today I received and Cease and Desist letter from Facebooks lawyers in regards to two tools I have released: FBSpy and Facebook link cloaker.

As of today I will no longer sell, support, or develop either one of these tools (so don't ask). I will also ask everyone who has a copy to please stop using it! All posts about them, or techniques on how to use them, have been removed from MADPPC.com as far as I can tell. They also want me to turn over the names of anyone who has bought FBSpy, but I have no intention on doing that.

Frankly the link cloaker is a pretty generic (and shitty) link cloaking script wrote a long time ago (and never updated) and only contained the Facebook name because that was a hot developing advertising platform at the time, and it was very cloakable. Hell I could whip a new 10x better version in a day now, so no big loss. There are also many other cloakers out there for sale (and free) that are much better than that.

FBSpy was something close to me though, it was a tool that I'm sure a few have thought of doing, I just actually followed through. Kinda put me in the lime light and helped me gain some rep in the community.
You know in our business there is a never ending need to want to get a step up on the guy in front of us, or to just make a campaign profitable - period. Although my tool itself does not click ads, like some others do (I don't have the link of the posts on WF so if someone finds it let me know). I'm sure their major beefs are:

  1. Referring to Facebook in any way shape or form.
  2. The fact that you can manually click though ads.
[rant]I know this tool made many people a lot of money, which in turn made Facebook a lot of money, but since when has Facebook ever cared about being profitable? Yet, you can't dispute that there is a high probability that this stems from the whole click fraud issue that really came full circle with the published techcrunch articles due to outcry of the community (original article and followup article). Now maybe they'll fix their horrific ad manager (do you hear me Facebook and/or attorneys I know your reading this) but probably not because they love failing. Facebook if you want some tips, let me know, you have all my primary e-mail addresses after all.[/rant]

I guess that's my piece, I could rant and rave for a while about the problems with Facebook platform in general that have been shit for a while but honestly I need content for another post in the future and it's petty. I'm not sure I've said everything I've wanted too, but no point to keep dwelling over this.

All jokes aside though, it would be nice to see something good come out of this, I mean I hope they didn't go through all this trouble just to shut down a couple silly little tools (not that I'm making them work hard for it).

It was a great run while it lasted, thanks to all my readers and supporters! I am however on to new, bigger, and better projects that will make me many times more money that FBSpy ever did (like autolandingpage.com). So don't be sad, think of this as a new chapter in my journey, we all have a lot to learn yet in this ever changing thing we call 'internet marketing'.

Now stop reading, go make money and get paid!
 
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Just when facebook couldnt get anymore retarded they take it to the next level.

I wonder have they pursued the actual source of the clickfraud that has been so rampant or merely engaged in a witch hunt with some easy targets in mind.

Oh yeah and "Hi" FB attorneys you are obviously reading this. Can you ask Mark and friends to make an ad platform that actually works?

Many thanks and kind regards.</sarcasm>
 
... The Cease and Desist only applies to the product names right? (and possibly any abuse of the API itself).

If you don't mind the shameless plug, if someone was hoping to use FB Link cloaker, I think the referrer and ip/host filter feature of kblinker could accomplish that same task. (I haven't used the FB Link Cloaker to know exactly what it did, or if it did anything on automation).

But Damn that sucks about FBSpy, I know people mentioned that as being a very useful tool.
 
You've got a solid rep and skills, so its all good bro.

Shame that Facebook is so silly and short-sighted.
 
Open source them and release them to the wild . . Probably nothing in the C&D about that, is there?

What are they going to do - sue you for someone else's actions?
 
ck256 said:
Open source them and release them to the wild . . Probably nothing in the C&D about that, is there?

What are they going to do - sue you for someone else's actions?
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Doesn't change the fact that he created the said program. The only thing your tactic will bring upon is more aggression from Facebook and consequences for the OP.

Either way, sad news. :(
 
Sell it to someone overseas, Rage. You can make make money off the sale and it can still continue on for the people that use it. Same exact thing happened with all the CL posting software.
 
Sell it to someone overseas, Rage. (Assuming there's an interested buyer)You can make make money off the sale and it can still continue on for the people that use it. Same exact thing happened with all the CL posting software.
 
kblessinggr said:
... The Cease and Desist only applies to the product names right? (and possibly any abuse of the API itself).

If you don't mind the shameless plug, if someone was hoping to use FB Link cloaker, I think the referrer and ip/host filter feature of kblinker could accomplish that same task. (I haven't used the FB Link Cloaker to know exactly what it did, or if it did anything on automation).

But Damn that sucks about FBSpy, I know people mentioned that as being a very useful tool.
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Ya I know what your saying but not worth even changing the cloakers name, it's not worth shit.
 
Hopefully the reputation people monitoring will see this thread. Number one please quit making your website even worse and number 2 if you are going to pursue everyone so heavily can you please find the few hundred people a month who click fraud my ads and cost hundreds? That would be nice.
 
Thats pretty retarded considering fbspy did not click on ads or follow through to landers
 
That sucks, man... sorry to hear it.

Let's hope the FB crew will read this thread though, or start taking note of some of the feedback they can get from people. Besides from the obvious big corporate spenders on there, they have made huge amounts of money from affiliates alone and need to adapt more.

Facebook; get to the bottom of click-fraud, sort out the major glitches with impressions, random suggested bid fluctuations, random approval process, and some UI bugs, and you will start gaining more respect (and revenue) from communities like this.
 
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