Schumacher out of Coma - hope no fake this time?
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Great news. All the scrapes he had in F1 over the years and then to be involved in an accident like this is really shitty, although the sport has got a lot safer these days with Senna being the last major casualty 20 years ago. Anyway, he has enough money to get all the right care and support now and so only time will be the best healer.
Now that Merc is dominating the sport I always wonder if things might be different if he would have stayed on racing. This accident might not have happened and he may now be fighting for pole positions with Rosberg.
Now that Merc is dominating the sport I always wonder if things might be different if he would have stayed on racing. This accident might not have happened and he may now be fighting for pole positions with Rosberg.
tbh it sounds like his family & medical professionals just want peace & quiet / no press while he recovers, which is completely understandable. It may take years for him to fully recover. Glad that he has made it through the worst though - a genuinely brilliant driver, only ever bettered (in my humble opinion) by the legend that was Senna.
I think the way this news was hold is a sign of problems.
If he would be really awake with some normal reactions or anything positive then they had announced it.
I fear this is a sign he is in a kind of vegetative state.
That would explain the lake of good news because the month ago as he was in coma every positive change was announced.
If he would be really awake with some normal reactions or anything positive then they had announced it.
I fear this is a sign he is in a kind of vegetative state.
That would explain the lake of good news because the month ago as he was in coma every positive change was announced.
Well it's really early stages atm, so he's going to be extremely fragile still for some time I would have thought - I doubt having media on the family's back would help in any way, so that's why I think they're just asking people to keep away while he recovers. I could be wrong of course, but I hope not.
From what I gather, he's out of a coma, but I don't think he's ever going to function normally again.
Look up "diffuse axonal injury" to get a better idea of what I believe is the type of head injury he suffered. If this is the case, and if it was anything but the most minor of this type of injury, his chances of any kind of recovery besides being bed ridden and fed from a tube for the rest of his life are slim to none. The long term prognosis is not good.
I know about this kind of injury because one of our best friends suffered a diffuse axonal injury when she hit some debris and drove our car off the highway here in Spain. She was in a medically induced coma for a couple of months and, even though she came out of that coma with her eyes open and whatnot, she was never truly "conscious" and was in a vegetative state.
She died seven months after the accident from complications, such as stroke and meningitis. It was heartbreaking.
Another of our friends lost his wife before we ever met him to a similar head injury as the result of being hit by a car.
One of the most depressing places on Earth is the head trauma ward in a hospital. I spent a good deal of time in the head trauma ward in the university hospital here in Cadiz and it's mostly full of kids that fell doing something stupid and hit their heads. It doesn't take much to scramble our brains. Fell of a bike, a first story balcony, was balancing walking on wall 6 feet up and fell and landed on their head. Some of the most ridiculous shit and their lives and that of their families are ruined.
Look up "diffuse axonal injury" to get a better idea of what I believe is the type of head injury he suffered. If this is the case, and if it was anything but the most minor of this type of injury, his chances of any kind of recovery besides being bed ridden and fed from a tube for the rest of his life are slim to none. The long term prognosis is not good.
I know about this kind of injury because one of our best friends suffered a diffuse axonal injury when she hit some debris and drove our car off the highway here in Spain. She was in a medically induced coma for a couple of months and, even though she came out of that coma with her eyes open and whatnot, she was never truly "conscious" and was in a vegetative state.
She died seven months after the accident from complications, such as stroke and meningitis. It was heartbreaking.
Another of our friends lost his wife before we ever met him to a similar head injury as the result of being hit by a car.
One of the most depressing places on Earth is the head trauma ward in a hospital. I spent a good deal of time in the head trauma ward in the university hospital here in Cadiz and it's mostly full of kids that fell doing something stupid and hit their heads. It doesn't take much to scramble our brains. Fell of a bike, a first story balcony, was balancing walking on wall 6 feet up and fell and landed on their head. Some of the most ridiculous shit and their lives and that of their families are ruined.
Chap - that sounds horrible, definitely can't imagine it tops your list of 'best times ever' category!
I'm not well versed on Shu's injuries he sustained to be honest - thanks for the clear description / image. So he's most certainly not out of the woods yet then?
edit: Just reading that wiki link - doesn't sound promising actually.
I'm not well versed on Shu's injuries he sustained to be honest - thanks for the clear description / image. So he's most certainly not out of the woods yet then?
edit: Just reading that wiki link - doesn't sound promising actually.
His rehabilitation will be very hard. As far as i know he lost 1/4 of his weight which is about 25-30 Kg.
My wife's elder son got this shit. Three years ago he got this car accident (was 20+ already) and got hit to his head. One month in coma, then long rehabilitation. Still doesn't function on full human capacity, probably that'll be like this forever.
Chap - that sounds horrible, definitely can't imagine it tops your list of 'best times ever' category!
I'm not well versed on Shu's injuries he sustained to be honest - thanks for the clear description / image. So he's most certainly not out of the woods yet then?
No man, 2007 was pretty much the worst year of our lives.
I'm not well versed with Shumacher's injuries either. Nobody is except those that are close to him. I'm just reading between the lines and making a guess at what I think the situation is based on how easy it is to actually get an injury like this and the nature of his accident (rapid deceleration of the head meeting a rock). Let's hope I'm wrong about it!
The reason this kind of injury happens is that you have different layers in your brain that are different densities essentially floating on top of one another. In between they are all interconnected with synapses and important neurological pathways and whatnot.
When you have extreme G forces exerted on the brain the different layers all move independently of one another and those pathways are broken, or sheared. The crazy thing about this kind of injury it is that the rest of the body can be in relatively great shape. Other than a bit of bruising from the seat belt, our friend was fine physically. The cabin of the vehicle stayed intact and the airbag went off. The crash was just so violent in the deceleration and spinning that her head couldn't take it
Unfortunately I tend to agree with you guys - I'm having hard time believing he will be even remotely normal ever again. It's incredibly sad that a guy who essentially put his life at risk for decades by dominating in F1 finally "met his fate" in a fucking skiing accident. That's just plain wrong.
In the case of my stepson, the docs explained it like this. We can imagine our brain as a can of jelly. The jelly is only a freaking jelly but it's usually in a pretty stable form. Every cell of it is well interconnected with the neighboring cells.
Now imagine you get a hit to your head, like a punch or you just knocked to the wall. The jelly inside your can gets some short jolt, the links between the cells tear occasionally and this you experience as eyesight dimout for some seconds or even minutes. But soon enough the links get restored by themselves.
When you have a stronger hit, like knockout, the can gets longer and stronger shake, so the links break in much more severe way. This is called concussion and the healing up with link restoration takes like a few days.
But in these strong hits, like in these cases, your scull "can" gets a damn serious hit, and the jelly inside is shaken for long enough time to rip the links so severe that it may take years to restore, if ever. I remember in movies about after WW2 that many veterans returned after contusion and acted almost normally but some parts of their personality were missed forever - short or long memory, some kinds of daily skills, of motor functions, some specific parts of gumption etc. I recall these movies lively when observe my stepson now every day.
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It appears to be quite a serious head injury. The lack of news over the past 6 months or so has certainly added to this belief. All the best to him.
BBC News - F1 legend Michael Schumacher 'out of coma'
BBC News - F1 legend Michael Schumacher 'out of coma'
ebtek: You might have tried to troll but that was big news on the German National Team. Schumi is pretty close with several players on the team (Podolski for example) since he himself is somewhat of a football player. Pretty much any charitable event involving football Schumi was there. He was actually good enough to maybe have played 2nd division or better if he didn't find something he was a bit better at.
Before everyone knew that he was out of the koma Podolski said at a press conference that he hopes he can watch several of the game and that the team is dedicating this world cup to him. The next morning its reported that he is awake.
From following German media reports the guys from the ambulance service said that while he didn't talk to them he could communicate by nodding and winking. So hopefully he is 'mentally' there. The physical part is going to be rough. One thing that most certainly will help him a bit is that he was in top physical condition.
Wish him the best.
Before everyone knew that he was out of the koma Podolski said at a press conference that he hopes he can watch several of the game and that the team is dedicating this world cup to him. The next morning its reported that he is awake.
From following German media reports the guys from the ambulance service said that while he didn't talk to them he could communicate by nodding and winking. So hopefully he is 'mentally' there. The physical part is going to be rough. One thing that most certainly will help him a bit is that he was in top physical condition.
Wish him the best.