Martin Grunin - Facebook Ads Fraud - Bank Fraud - mgrunin
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oh I just meant there is no GoT tonight. The vets would not allow it.
Edit: nm i see you figured that out in a later post
So I just read the case file against him.
Let's just say he better be preparing his anus. He's about to get fucked sideways by the legal hammer of Silicon Valley.
Let's just say he better be preparing his anus. He's about to get fucked sideways by the legal hammer of Silicon Valley.
Perhaps i am wrong but...
Just we not saw right here seoscams incredible SEO & content powers in action???
This thread, 20 posts ago a jewel in the wickedfire history about someone called grunin. He hijacked it in minutes.
We should check his posts for some hidden links attached to some whitespace or something. This can be just a glorious masterplan we did not noticed.
Just we not saw right here seoscams incredible SEO & content powers in action???
This thread, 20 posts ago a jewel in the wickedfire history about someone called grunin. He hijacked it in minutes.
We should check his posts for some hidden links attached to some whitespace or something. This can be just a glorious masterplan we did not noticed.
Grunin you gotta try The Big Lie: FB contacted you because you are such a powerful online persona. They wanted to see if it would be possible to scam 6 figures worth of online advertising. After you brainstormed this scenario for a while, you then came up with an "approved course of action", which you implemented with Fantastic results.
Sadly, the person who had "hired you" because of your online expertise was fired due to an unrelated matter and you were left holding the bag.
Those Bastards!!
Sadly, the person who had "hired you" because of your online expertise was fired due to an unrelated matter and you were left holding the bag.
Those Bastards!!
The entire North American economy is built on the false promises created by the marketing departments of ALL products/services.
Want to live an active and fun life? Drink Coke.
Want to guarantee a loving family dinner? Make Hamburger Helper.
Want to show her you really care? Buy a diamond.
Want to save the planet? Buy a Prius.
Want to be the best athlete ever? Buy Nike.
Beyond those simple promises, marketing oversells the quality of shitty movies, the quality of shitty beer, the quality of shitty fast food. It convinces people that "new" Tide really works better than the old Tide. It tricks women into buying overly priced skin and hair products. It cons loser men into thinking a fast car, an amazing watch and a nice suit is all it takes to be a hit with the ladies. It makes people overpay 20x for a $1 piece of chamois (the ShamWow), a $1 piece of flannel (the Snuggie), and just about every other crappy product sold on infomercials. It even makes people think they can get that lease on a new BMW for *just* $300/month.
Deception is the cornerstone of ALL marketing - online AND offline.
With that said, I disagree with your statement that marketing is just as morally reprehensible as fraud/theft.
With marketing, consumers have the ability to exercise "buyer beware". They have the ability to research and/or think about the claims being made in the advertising and use rational thought to determine if the claims are bullshit or not. On top of that, just about everyone realizes that advertising IS pure bullshit: exaggerated promises and claims. Deep down, a McDonalds customer knows that a Big Mac isn't the best fucking burger they'll ever have, even though the commercials sure as hell make it look like it is.
With fraud/theft though, the ability for the consumer/victim to exercise this same level of "buyer beware" caution has been eliminated by the scammer through forged and/or fake documentation. Additionally, since the fraud/theft is typically an established financial transaction, the victim doesn't have the expectation they'll be scammed.
For deception to be morally reprehensible, it has to be based on the assumption that all of those being deceived are completely ignorant of the deception.
Marketing doesn't fall under that category. It's definitely questionable, and I certainly don't consider myself a saint by any means, but marketing is absolutely not on the same level as the claims being made in the lawsuit.
(yeah this is a bit in the tl;dr range, but I take what I do quite seriously and have to speak up when I'm called a scamming cunt)
You are a scammer in the chain Steve.
You are comparing promoting some bull shit diet sugar pull against a Big Mac Nike shoes? And a snuggie? I'll tldr for you. Last time a bought a Big Mac mcdonalds didn't put in my fine print that I was signing up for their plump but plan, a Big Mac each month mailed to me for 30-40 times more than I pay for one today. They also don't mention that canceling is hard I have to personally call Ronald McDonald. Obtain his magic number to mail my package to a dumpster in the hope someone that day decides to cancel me the whole process is designed to stop you from stopping. In fact more time is spent on getting people not to cancel than is to help them lose weight
Nike isn't sending me new air Jordan's every month and charging me 10-20 times more than I can buy reebok for because you know it's convienently mailed to me
You know i love my snuggie of the month club. When I signed up it said free trial. TRy it before you buy it. So many news stories or was is magazines or drs not really sure but they all called it the most revolutionary blanket ever. Guaranteed to keep me warm and save me thousands on energy cost. When a new one came every month I thought great. Since the first didn't really keep me warm maybe 3 more will. But then I saw the $20 snuggie was charging me $69.99 and also a 3.99 snuggie fun club and 1.98 snuggie protection plan I thought it was a bit excessive
Anyway I can see how slinging diet rebills are just like selling nike or Big Macs or snuggie
Sorry for not keeping it short. Tldr; you're a fucking scammer Steve. Face it. Maybe you can give mgruin advice on handling Facebook. I think you have some prior experience there promoting your stellar client list
If you know so much and want to see a clean advertising space free of shady rebills. Why not post what you know
The news outlets. Regulators and media outlets and watching this thread
Blow the lid off rebills or pick and choose and take the it's not my job mindset and I only blew up martins spot for the lols
For deception to be morally reprehensible, it has to be based on the assumption that all of those being deceived are completely ignorant of the deception.
Steve? Dr Oz endorces your clients product? Visa really giving away those gift cards?
Holy shit since Dr Oz eats hamburgers I can use him In my ad for lean burger my new rebill. We send you a Big Mac for $1. Then for only 59.99 each month we send you another Big Mac. Wow such a deal right?
We currently work out of my basement and customer service hours are when me and my boys aren't stoned or playing xbox
Steve? Dr Oz endorces your clients product? Visa really giving away those gift cards?
Holy shit since Dr Oz eats hamburgers I can use him In my ad for lean burger my new rebill. We send you a Big Mac for $1. Then for only 59.99 each month we send you another Big Mac. Wow such a deal right?
We currently work out of my basement and customer service hours are when me and my boys aren't stoned or playing xbox
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