Anyone sell on Amazon?

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I'm putting together a couple of products and I'm thinking about putting them on Amazon to sell, in addition to my own e-commerce website.

Does anybody have any experience selling on Amazon and if so what kind of results did you have? Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
 


I have two self-pubbed novels that pay my rent and then some. The toughest thing about selling is getting your product rated and in the buyer's eyes.

Are you referring to digital products or physical ones? Two completely different ballgames as far as putting a plan together for.

If you're going the digital route, there is so much more garbage (in the form of self help, marketing, finance, sex help, etc.) than clickbank could ever hope to measure up to, so if you're looking to make a "helpful" ebook product, you should prepare for a lot of marketing efforts to get your sales off the ground.

The DP'ers found amazon a long time ago, lol!
 
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I have two self-pubbed novels that pay my rent and then some. The toughest thing about selling is getting your product rated and in the buyer's eyes.

Are you referring to digital products or physical ones? Two completely different ballgames as far as putting a plan together for.

If you're going the digital route, there is so much more garbage (in the form of self help, marketing, finance, sex help, etc.) than clickbank could ever hope to measure up to, so if you're looking to make a "helpful" ebook product, you should prepare for a lot of marketing efforts to get your sales off the ground.

The DP'ers found amazon a long time ago, lol!

thanks for the info. No, not a digital product. I have some physical products I'm creating and haven't found much competition for.

Does their search function rely on ratings mostly, or keywords?
 
thanks for the info. No, not a digital product. I have some physical products I'm creating and haven't found much competition for.

Does their search function rely on ratings mostly, or keywords?

If you're using a physical product you have more options; since you can direct customers to the page from other traffic sources.

If you're relying on Amazon's search function, then you'll likely have to deal with their product rating system, unless you want to have the cheapest product in your category and relying on people looking for "price lowest to highest." Remember that amazons default perameter is to list products by most popular to least popular and the majority of those products are popular because of the positive customer reviews.

If you plan on marketing the product externally you can beef up your own rating fairly quickly if the products are evergreen like you're saying. I feel it's more about ratings than keywords, but you'll likely hear people disagreeing on that point.

FYI: A friend and I did a joint venture a year and a half ago -- he was supposed to do the SEO/Advertising, etc. and I was doing the copywriting for the websites we developed to promote the product. Long story short, he fell short with his end and I didn't want to get involved further. The product is still listed on Amazon, has a few sales, couple positive reviews -- but far from ever going anywhere. I would have to spend a lot of time marketing it to get things moving, so yeah, it's not easy or anywhere near hands off.
 
Background - When I had a day job, I convinced the e-commerce store I worked for to list most products on Amazon, too - so I managed roughly 200-300 physical product listings on Amazon at any given time. For a while after quitting, I optimized listings for a number of high-volume Amazon sellers (it got boring fast).

What I noticed:

-You have to optimize your listings for 2 different things - the search engines, and Amazon's internal search engine.

-The 80/20 rule definitely applies. Sometimes you'll spend 5 minutes putting an item on Amazon and see steady sales every day for months or years. Other times, you'll put up a product and be lucky to get one sale/month. Oddly enough, I found only slight correlation between top sellers on the e-commerce website vs. top sellers from the Amazon listings.

-The internal search engine has definitely changed a bit over the years, but some things seemed pretty consistent:

--Keyword in product title
--Keyword in product description
--Free Prime Shipping or not (Prime product seem to be given slight preference in rankings)
--Sales rank
--Star ranking
--Sales in comparison to similar products
--Possibly keyword in reviews, but I could never be 100% sure about that. It definitely helps for external search engines, though, and if you like doing things the shady way, you can always buy a few reviews or give friends/family money to buy the item and place specific keyword-heavy reviews. You can help those stay on the main product page by making them very useful and by soliciting "helpful" votes so Amazon feels they're the best reviews for the product.
--Pricing (in cases where someone else was selling the same item, only the cheapest would be displayed prominently)
--Product tags seem to help Amazon figure out more about your product, but I never really found them to influence internal searches (good for getting your keywords on the page for external search engines, though). I'm not sure if they still have it, but they used to have a function on the seller side where you could suggest search terms for your product. That helped, especially when you couldn't get all the search terms in the title easily.


-Shipping something to Amazon's warehouse and having them do fulfillment is a VERY good idea for anything expensive enough to make the numbers work (they charge a little more when you do it that way). When I was doing a lot of Amazon stuff, there were some products whose sales increased 5-10x just by making that change - and that was at a time before they started giving away Prime memberships to students and adding all the benefits for Kindle/streaming video users. By doing this, you're making it cheaper for customers to buy AND your product gets more exposure (there's even a "Prime eligible" search option).

-On low to moderate volume products, it's relatively easy to manipulate their various cross-selling recommendations. You'll need a few Amazon accounts and some extra cash (you can always refund/re=sell the items later).

1. Frequently bought together (and "Customers Who Bought This Item Also Bought")- pick an item or two that goes nicely with your product. Buy it n the same transaction. It should be a complementary product rather than a direct competitor. As long as you aim for mid-volume or low-volume products, it doesn't take a lot of purchases to manipulate this (usually less than 5, in my experience) and get added exposure on the listings of other products. The cross promotion at the top of the page has been, in my experience, much harder to manipulate than the one with more products that's down lower on the listing (makes sense).

2. What Other Items Do Customers Buy After Viewing This Item? To make sure you show up on this section of other product listings, be sure that each person you enlist to buy your product clicks on the listings of your top competing products first.
 
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Background - When I had a day job, I convinced the e-commerce store I worked for to list most products on Amazon, too - so I managed roughly 200-300 physical product listings on Amazon at any given time. For a while after quitting, I optimized listings for a number of high-volume Amazon sellers (it got boring fast).

What I noticed:

-You have to optimize your listings for 2 different things - the search engines, and Amazon's internal search engine.

-The 80/20 rule definitely applies. Sometimes you'll spend 5 minutes putting an item on Amazon and see steady sales every day for months or years. Other times, you'll put up a product and be lucky to get one sale/month. Oddly enough, I found only slight correlation between top sellers on the e-commerce website vs. top sellers from the Amazon listings.

-The internal search engine has definitely changed a bit over the years, but some things seemed pretty consistent:

--Keyword in product title
--Keyword in product description
--Free Prime Shipping or not (Prime product seem to be given slight preference in rankings)
--Sales rank
--Star ranking
--Sales in comparison to similar products
--Possibly keyword in reviews, but I could never be 100% sure about that. It definitely helps for external search engines, though, and if you like doing things the shady way, you can always buy a few reviews or give friends/family money to buy the item and place specific keyword-heavy reviews. You can help those stay on the main product page by making them very useful and by soliciting "helpful" votes so Amazon feels they're the best reviews for the product.
--Pricing (in cases where someone else was selling the same item, only the cheapest would be displayed prominently)
--Product tags seem to help Amazon figure out more about your product, but I never really found them to influence internal searches (good for getting your keywords on the page for external search engines, though). I'm not sure if they still have it, but they used to have a function on the seller side where you could suggest search terms for your product. That helped, especially when you couldn't get all the search terms in the title easily.


-Shipping something to Amazon's warehouse and having them do fulfillment is a VERY good idea for anything expensive enough to make the numbers work (they charge a little more when you do it that way). When I was doing a lot of Amazon stuff, there were some products whose sales increased 5-10x just by making that change - and that was at a time before they started giving away Prime memberships to students and adding all the benefits for Kindle/streaming video users. By doing this, you're making it cheaper for customers to buy AND your product gets more exposure (there's even a "Prime eligible" search option).

-On low to moderate volume products, it's relatively easy to manipulate their various cross-selling recommendations. You'll need a few Amazon accounts and some extra cash (you can always refund/re=sell the items later).

1. Frequently bought together (and "Customers Who Bought This Item Also Bought")- pick an item or two that goes nicely with your product. Buy it n the same transaction. It should be a complementary product rather than a direct competitor. As long as you aim for mid-volume or low-volume products, it doesn't take a lot of purchases to manipulate this (usually less than 5, in my experience) and get added exposure on the listings of other products. The cross promotion at the top of the page has been, in my experience, much harder to manipulate than the one with more products that's down lower on the listing (makes sense).

2. What Other Items Do Customers Buy After Viewing This Item? To make sure you show up on this section of other product listings, be sure that each person you enlist to buy your product clicks on the listings of your top competing products first.
 
The following post by someone who sells on Amazon might help:
http://www.affiliateblogonline.com/...-your-own-products-on-amazon-a-success-story/
They recommend shipping all your produce to Amazon's warehouses, and letting Amazon handle the distribution (which means your product qualifies for free shipping) - apparently the free shipping thing boosts conversions massively.


Oh so This is the way how they provide free shipping,I was unaware of this.



www.stardistribution.us/services/pool-distribution
 
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I'm currently working on bringing 2 product lines to the North American market. I want to sell via the company website for each product, on Amazon, and get some local retail distribution as well.

The thing with selling on Amazon is that I believe they don't allow all types of products?

OP, have you looked into retail distribution yet? I'm in the process of looking for a retail broker/distributor and it's quite alot to consider.

Would love to talk on Skype sometime.