Erm... (EWA)

[Gooddeal]

Joe please wire back the extra 50cents they overpaid you. Nigger have no accountant and need to buy sandmich to live through the week.

 

[(O_o)]

How the fuck do you manage to overpay somebody? That's straight up retarded.

this.

makes me think EWA got joe to post this shit on WF just to cause drama/sig views/promote EWA . lol marketing

 

[Your_Pal]

hey Joe why you are bringing up this issue again even you got paid 10 times more than your lifetime earning ?

It was a clear indication to shut your mouth about what happened between you and your former AM. Why you ruining EWA's rep brah..

 

[kamired2]

this.

makes me think EWA got joe to post this shit on WF just to cause drama/sig views/promote EWA . lol marketing

doubt it, if anything this makes EWA and joe both look like peasants

 

[vinnythejinny]

1) Beg on the street for EWA referral
2) Join EWA Facebook group to double chances
3) Finally, get a referral
4) Join and make $50 dollars
5) Get check of $5000
6) Success

am making a WSO now, on how to get overpaid in CPA marketing

 

[-joe-]

Soooo let me get this straight. You were telling your account manager for EWA (a network that doesn't hide the fact they run internally) about a profitable campaign. He asks for tips on THAT campaign in exchange for a pay bump. You give him tips and your surprised that he used those tips for the same campaign exactly?

No offense man, but you should consider this a learning experience. You're completely right, it shouldn't happen, its not right, but you also have to be aware of who you're telling what to.

Yeah, I know. As I said, I was new. I haven't made that mistake since.

We handled this privately and professionally almost a year ago, and I'm not sure why you’re still bringing this up. I reviewed all chat logs, spoke to you and the affiliate manager at length, and concluded that there was no evidence supporting your claims so it appeared the situation had been resolved amicably. It's quite clear this is simply another slanderous attempt to damage my companies reputation with unclear intentions.

You know what Ryan? I tried bringing this up with you in the SGW chat the other day. You ignored it. I brought it up in a post - you read it, and then left a snowman on my visitor page. I'd thought it over, and then decided, fuck it, I can't be arsed with the drama. Then I saw your email. Had a browse through, and saw the face of that douche staring out with "pof legend" written next to it.

This is slanderous? Then post the chatlogs here. I don't care. I don't run with POF anymore, and I don't run that campaign anymore. Let Wickedfire decide whether this post is deserved or not. All I ask is that you edit out my email address.

As far as ripping your campaign goes, he never once had access to your creatives, images or ad copies. Upon close scrutiny of the record and given my extensive knowledge of the ad platform, it is quite obvious to anyone who is even remotely experienced with POF that you intentionally misled and manipulated him in return for payout bumps – not the other way around as you are trying to paint it.

I misled and manipulated him for paybumps? Wut? Shouldn't paybumps be in return for how much volume you run? You can't make the numbers up. I offered to help him out because I like helping people out, not for a paybump. I have multiple people on my skype who can vouch I've spent hours helping them for no financial gain.

I pulled the numbers on the accounts as you claim he ripped your campaign and was outbidding you, from 3/17/11 – 4/17/11 (the only time period the affiliate manager was sending any traffic to the campaign, your volume more than doubled his)

Because as soon as I noticed my volume drop like a stone, I upped my bids. He was obviously bidding on the exact same demos, why would I sit around and not up my bid?

You claim that he stole your campaign, what actually happened was the offer (MRG) was paused network wide by the advertiser that month, please stick to the facts

Firstly, Ryan, you should know better than to just out the campaign someone's running on Wickedfire. Did you see how much shit Yousif got for doing the same thing? In this case, I don't mind, as I said above, but yeah.

I'd ran out of cashflow prior to MRG getting paused. I'd switched over to Epic, who unfortunately weren't giving me weeklies, so I had to wait, then came the payment issues. The pausing was irrelevant, as it was a while after I'd left EWA.

It wasn't so much the MRG I was focused on, though. The other campaign (The one he paused before letting me login) was Mate1 Ireland. That was the one where I'd told him 1 secret that no one else on POF was using at the time. He used it behind my back, and totally fucked up the campaign I'd just started.

This is blatant lie, I will spare you the public humiliation of posting the kind of numbers you were pushing but I can assure everyone here it was an amount of little measure.

Post them, I don't give a fuck. It was my first profitable campaign, and I was 16ish. I doubt anyone's expecting baller money. I don't see how that's embarrassing. What I do think is embarrassing, is that one of your AMs is cheap enough to feel the need to steal a campaign like that. If he's willing to steal a $100 or so profit a day campaign, then what do you think he's gonna do with a campaign running real money?

Running the same offer at a fraction of the volume is not equal to duplicating your campaign. Also he never had access to any of your creatives whereas you had full access to his entire account. There is not a single line in any transcript anywhere where you give even the remotest glimpse of what you’re running. You intentionally misled in every way possible regarding bidding strategies and targeting in return for higher paybumps, which he was already quite generous with.

The only reason he didn't do volume was because I upped my bids as soon as I saw I was being outbid. I'd like to point out, Ryan, that, no. I didn't mislead him at all. The only time I misled him was after I'd logged into his account. Up until that point, it'd been an exact representation of what I'd been doing.

You logged into his account, and stayed logged in for quite a while as several times he had to ask you to log out while you were doing god knows what (you mention looking at his other campaigns, looking at his payment information, etc., very suspect behavior on your part - which we do have chat transcripts of and we are not posting due to privacy purposes)

Yeah, it's lucky I did look at his other campaigns, because otherwise I wouldn't have found out about the major thing he'd ripped from me. Since you seem to like using bold a lot, I will too. The logs of me saying I looked at his other campaigns/details/payment information are attached to the first post, in the pastebin.I'm totally open about that, I wanted to verify that he hadn't been running campaigns before I came along, and just deleted them. He hadn't.

Paybumps were never conditioned upon you helping him further. Bumps were given conditioned on him scaling up and sending more volume, see the following very clearly laid out from the verbatim transcript that bumps would be given in return for volume, standard industry protocol:

Contradicting yourself? "you intentionally misled and manipulated him in return for payout bumps" Volume is volume. However, I remember him saying something along the lines of "I thought this paybump was in exchange for you helping me", when he felt I wasn't telling him enough details. When you post the chat logs, people can see for themselves.

At certain points, the affiliate manager jokingly said I will bump you if you help me out, but this was clearly not a condition, and after what he had thought was a certain comfort / level of friendless established between AM and affiliate (after over a month of working together and chatting regularly)

Here we go. Didn't sound like a joke to me. Especially when he complained about it after he felt I wasn't helping him out enough.

Notice the “lol”, this is clearly not any sort of condition, the only actual conditions for bumps were increasing the volume, and he was bumped multiple times on the offer accordingly. Based on the volume, he also never came through on those promises of increased volume either.

Softening it with a "lol" doesn't make it any less of a condition, especially when you reinforce it later. I did increase the volume, unlike you say, although, it always gets a little tricky increasing volume when your AM's competing against you. Also, what are you implying? That I didn't increase the volume that much to spite him or something? I had a limited budget due to my age at the time, so couldn't expand into other platforms, and as I said, I was being competed against by him on POF.

In addition, Matthew is still proudly employed at EWA Network and I stand fully behind his ethics. If he had ever done anything wrong, stolen anything, or put my personal name at risk ever he would have been ejected when we discussed this. This is my last and final response to this thread - I take my reputation very seriously.

Wow. That says a lot.

Before you go continue posting a left-field post about us, remember that you actually still owe us money. The amount you were overpaid by on that check is higher than your lifetime earnings with us. You've clearly twisted and turned our words around for what purpose?

You can make the overpayment you still owe us to: paypal@eaglewebassets.com.

Do I? I got overpaid the first time, told Matthew the moment I received it, and it got sorted out with accounting. I received another check later, and I assumed it was for earnings after that. By that time I'd already left, so didn't bother checking it. I'm fairly sure that first check was less than my lifetime earnings with you, but yeah, I may be wrong. (I don't think I am though)

doubt it, if anything this makes EWA and joe both look like peasants

I don't give 2 shits about the money anymore. I just think it's fucking lame.

 

[Beach Affiliate]

 

[zimok]

 

[Avalanche]

 

[DaVJ1]

 

[erifdekciw]

 

[barman]

 

[Beach Affiliate]

The winningnest winning .gif evar.

 

[BassHead]

I fucking laughed so hard everyone stared at me in the uni library.

 

[Torgo]

lolwut your revenue was $150 in total and you're complaining about having your campaign ripped?

 

[dchuk]

I think I speak for everyone here when I say "who gives a flying fuck"

 

[BluAffiliate]

 

[faceblogger]

lolwut your revenue was $150 in total and you're complaining about having your campaign ripped?

That does not make any point.

People who run small quantity also has the same rights to stand when they are ripped off because officially money is money no matter what the amount is.

You can still go to jail for stealing $10 from a bank, if they sue you.

Everyone who makes big monies today also started their career from one or two or three figures. So, it's not a public humiliation or shame to anyone who are matured enough to be real.

 

[-joe-]

lolwut your revenue was $150 in total and you're complaining about having your campaign ripped?

Per day. As I said, I don't give a flying fuck about the money anymore, but how do you think someone who rips $100 campaigns is gonna treat a bigger campaign? Ryan seemed to think I'd be embarrassed at the fact my campaign only made $100 or so a day. It's an embarrassment to him and his network, not me. How many people here can honestly say their first profitable campaign (post-acai) made big money?

 

[Dankface]

Oh Ryan Ryan.. I haven't had the displeasure myself of working with you, I still despise everything about you. Something just rubs me the wrong way, you know? Maybe it's the dozens of networks and advertisers that refuse to work with you now, but I digress. Like many in the industry, you started slanging penis pills, sending fraud traffic, buying gaudy watches and acting like an e-thug and it didn't catch up with you. But instead of maturing you doubled down on your stupidity and here we are. In short you give the whole industry a bad name. Guilty of:

-Running a shitty brokered network that attracts the lowest of the low, jacking up bid prices for everyone else, ruining quality for advertisers, and having to deal with a bunch of retards at conferences. See:
http://www.wickedfire.com/shooting-...te-born-after-1990-exception-2-3-die-plz.html
-Using Twitter and Email to out good offers so no one makes money on them (lol).
-Having one of the most unprofessional and poorly run networks out there. See:

We handled this privately and professionally almost a year ago, and I'm not sure why you’re still bringing this up. I reviewed all chat logs, spoke to you and the affiliate manager at length, and concluded that there was no evidence supporting your claims so it appeared the situation had been resolved amicably. It's quite clear this is simply another slanderous attempt to damage my companies reputation with unclear intentions.

Best way to handle the situation would probably be to fire the guy jacking his campaign no? Yes, I know it's kind of awkward firing your best friend from high-school but business is business.

As far as ripping your campaign goes, he never once had access to your creatives, images or ad copies. Upon close scrutiny of the record and given my extensive knowledge of the ad platform, it is quite obvious to anyone who is even remotely experienced with POF that you intentionally misled and manipulated him in return for payout bumps – not the other way around as you are trying to paint it.

LOL. Oh noes! He manipulated his account manager into giving him bumps by giving him fake creatives. Are you even reading what you're writing?

I pulled the numbers on the accounts as you claim he ripped your campaign and was outbidding you, from 3/17/11 – 4/17/11 (the only time period the affiliate manager was sending any traffic to the campaign, your volume more than doubled his)

You claim that he stole your campaign, what actually happened was the offer (MRG) was paused network wide by the advertiser that month, please stick to the facts


This is blatant lie, I will spare you the public humiliation of posting the kind of numbers you were pushing but I can assure everyone here it was an amount of little measure.

Eagle Voice: You're a peasant that makes no money, don't make me humiliate you in front of wickedfire

Running the same offer at a fraction of the volume is not equal to duplicating your campaign. Also he never had access to any of your creatives whereas you had full access to his entire account. There is not a single line in any transcript anywhere where you give even the remotest glimpse of what you’re running. You intentionally misled in every way possible regarding bidding strategies and targeting in return for higher paybumps, which he was already quite generous with.

Why the fuck are you allowing your AMs to run campaigns, much less the SAME EXACT CAMPAIGNS that their pubs are running? Conflict of interest, heard of it mothafucker?

And BTW it's not hard to find what campaigns your pub is running, even if they're "intentionally misleading you" (lol). Check the referers, check what pixel url is, and match the 202 install with the headers or their jumplink. Ding ding ding, everything's possible when your AM is competing against you.

You logged into his account, and stayed logged in for quite a while as several times he had to ask you to log out while you were doing god knows what (you mention looking at his other campaigns, looking at his payment information, etc., very suspect behavior on your part - which we do have chat transcripts of and we are not posting due to privacy purposes)

LOL.. this is where it gets crazy, if no one already noticed. What kind of incestuous situation do we have going on here when the AM is having their pub log into their traffic sources to help you with their ads? Only at EWA.

Also funny Ryan here blaming Joe for stealing private info. Delusional much?

Paybumps were never conditioned upon you helping him further. Bumps were given conditioned on him scaling up and sending more volume, see the following very clearly laid out from the verbatim transcript that bumps would be given in return for volume, standard industry protocol:

Teh sacred bumps.. my precious....

At certain points, the affiliate manager jokingly said I will bump you if you help me out, but this was clearly not a condition, and after what he had thought was a certain comfort / level of friendless established between AM and affiliate (after over a month of working together and chatting regularly)

Notice the “lol”, this is clearly not any sort of condition, the only actual conditions for bumps were increasing the volume, and he was bumped multiple times on the offer accordingly. Based on the volume, he also never came through on those promises of increased volume either.

In addition, Matthew is still proudly employed at EWA Network and I stand fully behind his ethics. If he had ever done anything wrong, stolen anything, or put my personal name at risk ever he would have been ejected when we discussed this. This is my last and final response to this thread - I take my reputation very seriously.

Before you go continue posting a left-field post about us, remember that you actually still owe us money. The amount you were overpaid by on that check is higher than your lifetime earnings with us. You've clearly twisted and turned our words around for what purpose?

You can make the overpayment you still owe us to: paypal@eaglewebassets.com.

LOL. You overpaid him because your whole "business" doesn't even have their books right.. that's just hilarious.

Anyone still working at EWA, *SMH*.