any gamblers on wf?

So true. But let him be. Maybe he needs beer money.

WickedDude, hope you grind your way to $5000 ;)

Oh great that will only take him about 2 yrs. at this rate. If this fuck thinks $7 a day is something to talk about maybe he needs to stop drinking... people probably make more on welfare.. and this jackass is updating us on this bullshit on the reg lol he thinks he's 'winning' hahaha
 


So true. But let him be.

I have been letting him be for a while, everybody in here told him why this method is flawed but, still it's like he's in denial and trying to prove them wrong by posting his chump change updates. I've tried to hold it in long enough and nobody else has said anything but, I finally had enough..
 
dude registered in 2006 and this is his idea of a case study.. sounds like a cry for help if you ask me.. but, he doesn't seem to see it.. thinks he's proving us wrong by posting his chump change updates.. lulz
 
i'd commit suicide if i thought $7/day was something to talk about or even bring up.. fucking losers piss me off.. i respect people trying to raise the bar and this idiot is trying to lower it..
 
don't get me wrong i don't have anything against gambling, i love poker, i'm specifically talking about this jackass in particular and his actions in ignoring what anybody else has said and updating us like he's proving us wrong.. if he was really on to something.. why would he tell us in the first place? tells you right there that he knows subconsciously that he's a stupid fuck
 
What's the best roulette strategy?

I'm waiting on an email from a client so I'll give a better answer that will actually show you how to make money from online roulette, but you have to understand some basic math.

American roulette has two green zeroes (0 and 00), and European roulette has only one zero. The end result is that the house edge on European roulette is much smaller on all bets. Here's an example for betting on red to show the difference in the house advantage in the two games, but it's also an example of calculating the house edge.

American Roulette: There are 38 numbers (1-36, 0, 00). The chance of landing on red is 18/38, and the chance of not landing on red is 20/38. If you bet $100, then your expected profit is (18/38)(100) + (20/38)(-100) = -$5.26. So the house edge is 5.26% if you bet on red since you will lose $5.26 for every $100 you bet.

European Roulette: There are 37 numbers (1-36, 0). The chance of landing on red in this game is 18/37, and the chance of not landing on red in this game is 19/37. Again, if you bet $100, your expected profit is (18/37)(100) + (19/37)(-100) = -$2.70. In this game, the house edge for a bet on red is 2.70%.

Using bonuses, you can sometimes make money on roulette depending on the terms of the bonus. So let's say you have a 100% deposit bonus on $200 that requires a 30x play-through requirement. This means you'll have to wager a total of $200 * 30 = $6000 before you get your $200 bonus. If you bet no red in European roulette, then by wagering a total of $6000, you expect to lose 2.70% of $6000, which is (6000)(0.027) = $162.

Your average profit in this example would be $38, giving you an effective advantage over the casino of about 0.63% over the $6000 you wagered, while producing a (38/200) = 19% return on your initial investment. This sounds like it's tedious, but it can be sped up a lot of the time because many casinos allow you to automatically play X number of spins. By keeping your bet size low and using the automatic spins feature, your variance stays low and you have much less of a chance of accidentally going bust before clearing the bonus.

The lower the play-through requirements and the higher the size of the bonus, the more profit you'll get. You can easily set up a chart to show what ROI you can get from different play-through requirements, but anything under 30x is generally considered juicy.

Side note: some people might have the bright idea to put bets on both red and black at the same time to make the bonus clear faster. This is a good idea, but very few online casinos will allow you to clear bonuses in this way.

I decided to look for a non-hypothetical example how bonus terms can be worded in a way to trick you. After about 30 seconds, I found the endless 10% match bonus on Bodog that has a 15x play-through requirement. That sounds good if you skim over it, but in reality, it's a 15x play-through requirement on your deposit plus the bonus, not just the amount of the bonus.

For another example of what not to do, "Win Palace" has a small bonus with attractive terms, but doesn't allow you to clear the bonus using roulette. Read the terms closely!

If you're interested in this kind of stuff, Wizard of Odds is a good website with a lot of theory and strategy discussion for a lot of games, including some obscure games.
 
I found a new roulette strategy which I've been employing and winning since mid last week.

My old color strategy didn't work, but I've been winning consecutively with my new system.

I now go every day to the casino. I will keep going as long as I keep winning. It only takes me about 45 minutes per day.

HATERS GONNA HATE

p.s. I ain't poor, this is what I do for fun.
 
I found a new roulette strategy which I've been employing and winning since mid last week.

My old color strategy didn't work, but I've been winning consecutively with my new system.

I now go every day to the casino. I will keep going as long as I keep winning. It only takes me about 45 minutes per day.

HATERS GONNA HATE

p.s. I ain't poor, this is what I do for fun.

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Except no legit online casino is going to allow you to cashout bonus money with roulette play through.

Most don't, some do, which is why I put so much emphasis on reading the terms and conditions of the sites. I also purposefully made the bonus examples in a way that they aren't roulette-specific, and gave a reference site for looking up the house edge on obscure games to make it easier to find profitable bonus scenarios. However, most of the time you can just play blackjack to clear the bonuses.
 
Except no legit online casino is going to allow you to cashout bonus money with roulette play through.

Completely agree really hard beating Casino's

Sports betting is only angle i have ever had any success. I do like this thread tho and if anyone out on this forum knows shit about sports maybe we should start another thread and post and keep score.:rainfro:

That Japan play was 8-1 when i took it, it was after US had won but Japan hadn't beat Sweden yet so basically 100 to win 800...Nailed it. My other tickets that i have posted are over 50%

Does anyone else here bet sports with any real passion.....Not the 7 dollar a day roulette method.
 
I'm waiting on an email from a client so I'll give a better answer that will actually show you how to make money from online roulette, but you have to understand some basic math.

American roulette has two green zeroes (0 and 00), and European roulette has only one zero. The end result is that the house edge on European roulette is much smaller on all bets. Here's an example for betting on red to show the difference in the house advantage in the two games, but it's also an example of calculating the house edge.

American Roulette: There are 38 numbers (1-36, 0, 00). The chance of landing on red is 18/38, and the chance of not landing on red is 20/38. If you bet $100, then your expected profit is (18/38)(100) + (20/38)(-100) = -$5.26. So the house edge is 5.26% if you bet on red since you will lose $5.26 for every $100 you bet.

European Roulette: There are 37 numbers (1-36, 0). The chance of landing on red in this game is 18/37, and the chance of not landing on red in this game is 19/37. Again, if you bet $100, your expected profit is (18/37)(100) + (19/37)(-100) = -$2.70. In this game, the house edge for a bet on red is 2.70%.

Using bonuses, you can sometimes make money on roulette depending on the terms of the bonus. So let's say you have a 100% deposit bonus on $200 that requires a 30x play-through requirement. This means you'll have to wager a total of $200 * 30 = $6000 before you get your $200 bonus. If you bet no red in European roulette, then by wagering a total of $6000, you expect to lose 2.70% of $6000, which is (6000)(0.027) = $162.

Your average profit in this example would be $38, giving you an effective advantage over the casino of about 0.63% over the $6000 you wagered, while producing a (38/200) = 19% return on your initial investment. This sounds like it's tedious, but it can be sped up a lot of the time because many casinos allow you to automatically play X number of spins. By keeping your bet size low and using the automatic spins feature, your variance stays low and you have much less of a chance of accidentally going bust before clearing the bonus.

The lower the play-through requirements and the higher the size of the bonus, the more profit you'll get. You can easily set up a chart to show what ROI you can get from different play-through requirements, but anything under 30x is generally considered juicy.

Side note: some people might have the bright idea to put bets on both red and black at the same time to make the bonus clear faster. This is a good idea, but very few online casinos will allow you to clear bonuses in this way.

I decided to look for a non-hypothetical example how bonus terms can be worded in a way to trick you. After about 30 seconds, I found the endless 10% match bonus on Bodog that has a 15x play-through requirement. That sounds good if you skim over it, but in reality, it's a 15x play-through requirement on your deposit plus the bonus, not just the amount of the bonus.

For another example of what not to do, "Win Palace" has a small bonus with attractive terms, but doesn't allow you to clear the bonus using roulette. Read the terms closely!

If you're interested in this kind of stuff, Wizard of Odds is a good website with a lot of theory and strategy discussion for a lot of games, including some obscure games.

Thanks for this, btw.
 
Thanks for this, btw.

No problem. If you get really into it, you can start scouting obscure new games and often find spots you can exploit. Six or seven years ago you could make an easy $2k-3k a month bonus whoring if you had the funds to get started. Now it's a lot harder because most online casinos have stopped using bonuses as a sort of loss leader and try to guarantee there's no way to game the system, but there are still plenty bonuses that you can get an edge on with blackjack if you just play basic strategy and don't try to convince yourself that you can count cards online.