Really?
You're going to do something you feel half guilty about for a living for the rest of your life?
AM isn't the only way to make money.
IM and Morality
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Really?
You're going to do something you feel half guilty about for a living for the rest of your life?
AM isn't the only way to make money.
Dude, this is marketing..
If you're this concerned about morality, then this industry may not be for you. I don't mean that all marketers are immoral, but having an approach that's driven by right/wrong is a big hindrance to success. It always confuses me when people bring up this topic, it's as if they caught of glimpse of some dudes making money online and just wanted in on it. There's so many other industries where this is a non-issue..
At the very core, marketing is really about creating campaigns that take advantage of human psychology in order to sell products/services. If it helps you sleep better at night, you can create all your campaigns based on the products quality (or *morality*
) but at the end of the day if that's your focus, then you're missing the point brotha.
You gotta get out of the pool to swim with the sharks..
If you're this concerned about morality, then this industry may not be for you. I don't mean that all marketers are immoral, but having an approach that's driven by right/wrong is a big hindrance to success. It always confuses me when people bring up this topic, it's as if they caught of glimpse of some dudes making money online and just wanted in on it. There's so many other industries where this is a non-issue..
At the very core, marketing is really about creating campaigns that take advantage of human psychology in order to sell products/services. If it helps you sleep better at night, you can create all your campaigns based on the products quality (or *morality*
) but at the end of the day if that's your focus, then you're missing the point brotha.You gotta get out of the pool to swim with the sharks..
Thank you for an actual reply to my question instead of filling this thread with yet another GTFO/ piss off / f*** you, etc.
What do you mean with different set of skills?
Well Amazon already has the best user generated reviews, so you need to be able to write Kick Ass Editorial reviews if you want to push High Volume and/or High Value Amazon SKUs, and then have those reviews ranked better than Amazon or Notebookforums/tomshardware type sites.
You can rank better than those sites, but it will be hard organically, because you are just starting out. You may need to buy links, spam links etc, which obviously you would question.. Is that a right thing to do?
But then, if you are willing to work hard, put in the hours, then why not?
Write High quality review articles for all Laptops, Cameras, Ipod and ipad cases?, Language learning products, etc.... Write 10 articles a day.... Comment on other blogs so that they get to know you so well, they blogroll you.. write about latest gadgets.... But that is not marketing... you are just writing a blog or maintaining a website, and are supporting yourself/your site with Affiliate income.. That you can do... Everybody can.... Anybody who is not Lazy can.. and yeah earn at least 10K a month... why not ??
Marketing, or Affiliate Marketing when you are actively pursuing a Target Market or demographics, follow them to Content sites they visits, their Facebook activity, their search activity, and then make them buy or sign up some offer.... This is done through paying for traffic.. or even if it is organic traffic.. you optimize for those converting keywords rather than just churning out quality articles that people will Bookmark themselves, email themselves, Tweet, or even linked to if they have a blog... which is what I think you should explore..
I used to be Ethical until i discovered the Berries and the day I sold my first Penis extender
$200 per sale was enough to Contort my ethics.
If morals are your overriding concern, then you should stay out of AM and maybe look into getting a job at a traditional advertising firm. Oh wait (those numbers represent not marketing budgets, but rather FINES incurred because of improper marketing; e.g. promoting off-label use, price inflation, misleading doctors and patients about drug safety, etc).
I appreciate your replies. However I'd just like to point out that by "morality" I don't mean in the holier-than-thou sense that I think I know what's right and wrong and I want to be the arbiter of what people should or shouldn't buy. I believe in freedom and economic liberalism, to a reasonable degree.
I regret the original post a bit now; not because of the flames and name-calling, but I should have specified that I'm not referring specifically to AM but to any kind of "earning online" (WickedFire after all unites webmasters, designers, writers, marketers, etc.). Blogspotter you're right,
I regret the original post a bit now; not because of the flames and name-calling, but I should have specified that I'm not referring specifically to AM but to any kind of "earning online" (WickedFire after all unites webmasters, designers, writers, marketers, etc.). Blogspotter you're right,
Okay, well I'm still confused about the difference between "earning online" and earning offline... What is it exactly?
Hello friend,
Affiliate who worry about moral no make good affiliate marketer. Company like bank far less moral, and enjoy bailout after campaign fail.
Good luck bro
Destructive business model? They provide tons of different products for very cheap. Aside from the fact that it's a terrible example, you're basically pulling the "two wrongs make a right" card.
And can we stop with these gay fucking threads please?? Thanks!!
Brilliant response, libtard, but it's every day that WF gets these "I'm struggling with the moral dilemma gaiz help me plz" threads. Now go back to sucking your Communist boy Obama's nuts. Thanks!
Fuck. Listen man, this is for you kyoun3:
If you don't like having moral conflict with something, then just promote what you don't have a moral conflict with. Do things differently, stop fucking around asking questions that nobody can answer for you and get to hustling.
If it works out for you (big if in this game), then great. If it doesn't, then come on over to the "dark" side and bank like the "immoral" do.
Just leave us alone and stop asking these stupid questions. Either you get on your hustle your way, or you don't. We cannot help you with that.
If you don't like having moral conflict with something, then just promote what you don't have a moral conflict with. Do things differently, stop fucking around asking questions that nobody can answer for you and get to hustling.
If it works out for you (big if in this game), then great. If it doesn't, then come on over to the "dark" side and bank like the "immoral" do.
Just leave us alone and stop asking these stupid questions. Either you get on your hustle your way, or you don't. We cannot help you with that.
Actually I have been a registered Republican since old enough to vote and I remain one despite the embarrassment you cause. You pretend to be upset with someone else's threads yet like clockwork you create a name calling troll thread pretending to hate liberals. What you actually do is embarrass the same group you pretend to be a part of. I don't know if this is because of a lack of intelligence or you really are a liberal trying to embarrass the right. Either way you lose all credability with your child like attacks on everyone.
Look hellblazer I say this as someone who loves their country. If you really want to help your party you should just kill yourself. You are doing more harm than good. And what the fuck is your pre-occupation with testicles? Seems like everyone of your post has a reference to balls or nuts. Did you lose yours or something?
As much as I look forward to your monosyllabic name calling response your just going to have to play with yourself on this one. Your a professional troller and a complete waste of time.
Just like a liberal to think spouting their "party" credentials absolves them. This is most likely a "Republican" in the mold of Specter, Snowe, McCain, Brown et al... i.e., one of those traitorous RINO fuckers.
Hypocrisy, oh hypocrisy, what is thy name?
When I was about 13 or 14 (I'm 28 now), my father was seriously considering buying one of those cigarette stores in a part of town that had lots of foot traffic and the region was expanding. It was a really good opportunity and the business is still operating today.
At the last moment, he couldn't go through with it as his conscience was telling him it was wrong to sell people things that could make them sick or eventually kill them, so he backed out.
Another local family purchased the business and I went to school with the kids parents.
They did really good with the business and I remember hearing stories of them going on holidays to America, Japan, Europe etc etc. I really resented that kid because my family almost owned his cigg store.
I felt cheated and disappointed in my father. You know why? His moral objection had no bearing on whether people decided to smoke or not. It's their choice, not his.
Same thing applies to AM. People waste good money on all manner of bad shit all the time. If they want an ebook and feel it's good value for $10, $100 or whatever, who are you to tell them otherwise? Better you be there to take their money than someone else.
At the last moment, he couldn't go through with it as his conscience was telling him it was wrong to sell people things that could make them sick or eventually kill them, so he backed out.
Another local family purchased the business and I went to school with the kids parents.
They did really good with the business and I remember hearing stories of them going on holidays to America, Japan, Europe etc etc. I really resented that kid because my family almost owned his cigg store.
I felt cheated and disappointed in my father. You know why? His moral objection had no bearing on whether people decided to smoke or not. It's their choice, not his.
Same thing applies to AM. People waste good money on all manner of bad shit all the time. If they want an ebook and feel it's good value for $10, $100 or whatever, who are you to tell them otherwise? Better you be there to take their money than someone else.
I agree completely. My father worked on cigarette ad campaigns as a freelance artist a couple of decades ago. He banked six figures when six figures was a lot.
A friend of mine called working on cigarette ads "immoral" and beneath her. Fuck that preachy crap. Nobody sticks the cigarettes in people's mouths. You do what you have to do, and just get yourself paid.
Good or evil do not exist outside our beliefs.
From an objective standpoint, murdering a family is no more "immoral" or "moral" than wasting a liter of water.
Too bad life ain't perfect. Life is short, and quite frankly, I'll do whatever the fuck I want to do as long as I am not jeopardizing myself.
From an objective standpoint, murdering a family is no more "immoral" or "moral" than wasting a liter of water.
Too bad life ain't perfect. Life is short, and quite frankly, I'll do whatever the fuck I want to do as long as I am not jeopardizing myself.
I'm not going to derail this thread with an in depth analysis of the downward effect that retailers like WalMart have on local economies - there is plenty of research on the subject that you can look up. But I'm sure you'd rather save $4.50 on your shopping trip at the expense of middle class jobs because that $4.50 you saved is going to be put to great use somewhere in our economy.
If you can't see the effects of moving to a service based economy where everybody earns $8/hour with no benefits, then we're just going to have to agree to disagree. If I owned WalMart I would do the same thing, but that doesn't make it any less destructive. But as a consumer I prefer to support local businesses even it costs a few bucks more. I happen to think we need more small business owners, and less WalMart greeters - but that's just me.
As far as the two wrongs make a right thing - I'm not arguing that those companies are immoral, I'm saying they aren't any more moral than what we do. Business is business - buyer beware.
I happen to think we need more small business owners, and less WalMart greeters - but that's just me.
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