your thoughts on TLDs

pileofcrap

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I'm starting up a new site and I have found 2 TLDs available that target the primary content. .cm and .cc

It's a one word domain, too. Would I be better trying to find a .com/net/org of a more narrow keyword or can anything one word work well?

Like... for example
Cupcakes.com is taken but Cupcakes.cc is free
Would I be better getting Cupcakes.cc or trying for something like CupcakeRecipes.com


Thanks guys
 


CupcakeRecipes.com domain would be much better as .coms are much more memorable. You will probably also find that Google holds weight on different TLD extensions. Take for instance the .info. A lot of people bought those up and spammed the fuck out of them because they are so cheap. It didn't take long to catch on to that shit. Now they're really only good for launching quick PPC campaigns.
 
I would think it depends on whether you are looking to brand your domain and have ppl come to your site directly or are you using this site for say adsense in which case the more targeted the keyword the better.

Otherwise, I would agree that the .com would be the best. People generally remember .com even if told it is something else.
 
if an existing .com/.net/.org exists for a domain you want, I would sooner pick a similar name with the same TLD than to pick the same name with a different TLD. So pretty much what everyone is saying already.
 
Ok so like... using the same example...

.com is taken but .org is open so.. I should def. go with a com/net/org over anything else as long as it's still relative?


and now... another question...
Ok so forget the .cc crap. I found a good keyword domain with .org but... I found a more narrowed keyword domain as a .com
like CupcakeRecipes.org or EasyCupcakeRecipes.com the .org leaves me more open to different types of content where as the .com kind of leaves you think that they are only the easy recipes. I realize it probably has more to do with the keyword you want to go to but I'm wondering if the more broad .org would be the way to go.
 
pileofcrap said:
Ok so like... using the same example...

.com is taken but .org is open so.. I should def. go with a com/net/org over anything else as long as it's still relative?


and now... another question...
Ok so forget the .cc crap. I found a good keyword domain with .org but... I found a more narrowed keyword domain as a .com
like CupcakeRecipes.org or EasyCupcakeRecipes.com the .org leaves me more open to different types of content where as the .com kind of leaves you think that they are only the easy recipes. I realize it probably has more to do with the keyword you want to go to but I'm wondering if the more broad .org would be the way to go.
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Buy both, put them on separate hosting/ips, and use the more narrow site to funnel juice towards your more broad domain.

Also, when it comes to buying domains where the .com is taken but a .net/.org is available, I always look to see if that .com is ranking on the front page. If it isn't, you should be in a good spot to get yourself on top. If it is, it's gonna be a little more tricky.
 
dchuk said:
Also, when it comes to buying domains where the .com is taken but a .net/.org is available, I always look to see if that .com is ranking on the front page. If it isn't, you should be in a good spot to get yourself on top. If it is, it's gonna be a little more tricky.
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To add to this, now that I've reread it, if there IS an exact match competitor on the front page, take a look at their backlinks/pr/optimization compared to the rest. If everyone else on the front page looks like a powerhouse and the exact match looks out of place because of weak stats, you're in a great spot to pounce.
 
mattseh said:
seems to be 50/50 on whether .infos and free domains are penalised. Anyone got a case study?
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Would love to hear Guerilla's input here from references he's made towards .info's in the past.

Personally, I've got a .info with 30+ pages of content 25-30 places behind a .org with 2 pages. Same niche, both exact match keywords. Different IP's, same exact backlinks to both. I'm sure it can be done but I haven't figured it out.
 
Grindstone said:
Would love to hear Guerilla's input here from references he's made towards .info's in the past.

Personally, I've got a .info with 30+ pages of content 25-30 places behind a .org with 2 pages. Same niche, both exact match keywords. Different IP's, same exact backlinks to both. I'm sure it can be done but I haven't figured it out.
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Same age? It'd be sweet if you went into more details about this whole setup, there's practically no objective case studies for this sort of thing out there.
 
Registered the same day. Two separate hosting accounts under two separate names. 1 registered at namecheap, one at godaddy.

Both have a poorly crafted but keyword friendly home page, the .info has around 30 WPTB posts, the .org has a contact us page. Both are about a month old.

That's all I can think of at the moment. :)
 
Check Resveratrol.info vs. Resveratrol.com/net/org. It has dropped off of the first page recently, but was page 1 for the longest especially when Resveratrol was hot.

The owner offered to sell to me in June for some enormous amount (site was making about $3k/month Adsense with zero CPA products at the time). I think I offered him one year revenue and he demanded 4 years revenue or some crazy shit. I explained to him that diet products are fads by nature and in 6 months people would be on to the next miracle. Then in September he came back and offered to sell for $40k but by then most of the Resv offers had tanked so I said no thanks.

The guy didn't know shit about affiliate marketing but he had mad SEO skills to rank a .info for a competitive term like that on page 1. Moral of the story - yes it can be done, study his site and see how.
 
Phasm said:
matt cutts has said multiple times tld holds no weight in terms of SEO
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I would love to see some more info/case studies on this... I mean.. search for cd covers and the first is cd covers.cc So it can be done. What about if you go in to webmaster tools with your .cc and set your target demograopic to UK as an example? Or host the site in the UK? If domains such as .cc and .ws DO carry as much weight as a .com or whatever then this would open up a host of opportunites. I have noticed that the price of .cc's has gone up recently... could be a sign!
 
greyhat said:
I would love to see some more info/case studies on this... I mean.. search for cd covers and the first is cd covers.cc So it can be done. What about if you go in to webmaster tools with your .cc and set your target demograopic to UK as an example? Or host the site in the UK? If domains such as .cc and .ws DO carry as much weight as a .com or whatever then this would open up a host of opportunites. I have noticed that the price of .cc's has gone up recently... could be a sign!
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As I was walking to get coffee today, I decided that one of the next things I'm going to do is a case study comparison of an exact match .com versus a .info.

default wordpress layout, rewritten articles, same image placements, same purchase/setup date, different servers/ip, same linkbuilding. Track it over a few months time and see what the fuck is up.
 
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