Make sure to pay me and all the other affiliates who have been running your offers for a year now. Thx.
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cx should pay - why would affiliates run through networks when they could go direct for higher payouts...why? because advertisers have volatile cash flow, why else would we need a network, to protect us from the potential risks.
didn't cx do over 100 mil in rev with xm this year? why are they stiffing me for $53k???? pay now!!!
didn't cx do over 100 mil in rev with xm this year? why are they stiffing me for $53k???? pay now!!!
No one's getting stiffed(i don't think), I have a large amount coming my way too, and was a little shitty when I found out it's on hold. I'm hearing the fraud came from one ad network, not sure why this wasn't caught before Visa cut them off? I'm hearing different things, oh well. Also shouldn't post any numbers in this forum july, makes it look like a shameless brag u know? Also don't say this deserves a new post either, have you ever been on a forum before?
I'm sure almost all will get paid, don't have an exact ETA, but my AM is telling me soon.
eads is paying. AZN are too paying trusted affiliates.
Meanwhile, CX claims that eads and are azn not paying. sounds like a brazilian soap opera.
CX made TONS of cash with XM paying for a whole year and now they don't want to man up because basically what I was told:
"XM found big amounts of fraud. They want to see where it came from and now we're waiting for visa to respond" ... yeah Visa is gonna talk to them after kicking them off.
Funny part is, we've been sending CX traffic for months to this offer. Never had an issue until last week's payment was due.
Sounds fishy. I'm not owed a huge amount either... but $ is $ and you'd expect a network like CX to man up and pay out trusted partners that have been doing business with them for a good while.
PS: I'm sure that we'll get paid in the end. Sooner or later. But... is that how you want to deal with legit affiliates in such a small space?
Meanwhile, CX claims that eads and are azn not paying. sounds like a brazilian soap opera.
CX made TONS of cash with XM paying for a whole year and now they don't want to man up because basically what I was told:
"XM found big amounts of fraud. They want to see where it came from and now we're waiting for visa to respond" ... yeah Visa is gonna talk to them after kicking them off.
Funny part is, we've been sending CX traffic for months to this offer. Never had an issue until last week's payment was due.
Sounds fishy. I'm not owed a huge amount either... but $ is $ and you'd expect a network like CX to man up and pay out trusted partners that have been doing business with them for a good while.
PS: I'm sure that we'll get paid in the end. Sooner or later. But... is that how you want to deal with legit affiliates in such a small space?
What exactly do you mean ? If network tells you stop traffic cause offer expired (at all or for time) is it different of ends of budget on direct advertiser (at all or for time). So I think you still should get payed direct for the leads you bring even with higher possibility then with network, am I wrong ?
The interesting part is you'll all still work with them when there are networks that have never missed a payment to anyone or ever been late. By you continuing to run traffic to them now or in the future you're telling them you're ok with them doing this.
Remember that.
Remember that.
smax does have a good point, and yes of course he is referring to himself along with other networks. He has never missed a payment with me once and for that, he does deserve credit (same with those who have never missed payments).
from what i am told, cx is paying but its just late.
from what i am told, cx is paying but its just late.
I'm an affiliate at CX and Azoogle, and I trust my Am's at both networks. They've always paid me and both are holding back my XM payments until they've figured out where the fraud is coming from. I've been paid on all the non xm stuff...it sucks, but I'm not worried.
Yes, it is unacceptable, especially when I've been one of their top guys for years, and always played nice.
But who's going to drop them when they have an offer that's working? I'd bet the farm that noone does, sadly money trumps most things in this business. Most the people being owed big numbers, have the funds to wait an extra week or month for that matter.
I've heard that "Visa" made them hold payments, being a network owner, is that even a believable story?
I pretty much stopped floating free trials early this year, I learned my lesson hard - it sucks to let the money go away but the money was fake. It's a bunch of advertisers, as far as I'm concerned, running a business model that is clearly not proven or made in a way to burn networks/affiliates.
I lost something to the tune of 375,000 in two days off a deal, at 5.5% margin. That hurt. I learned. Plenty of networks didn't, and that put them into the position that they're in.
Networks make margin to cover the losses that they incur from the nonpaying debters. When I explain the factoring aspect of my business to any "normal" businessman and they hear about unsecured debt AND the low rates that I run at - they are shocked.
It's risky business out there. Lot's of companies felt the pain this year, but I'm in it for the long run myself and I only extend what I can personally insure (my damn name is attached to my company), and like smax - I've always paid and I will always pay.
I lost something to the tune of 375,000 in two days off a deal, at 5.5% margin. That hurt. I learned. Plenty of networks didn't, and that put them into the position that they're in.
Networks make margin to cover the losses that they incur from the nonpaying debters. When I explain the factoring aspect of my business to any "normal" businessman and they hear about unsecured debt AND the low rates that I run at - they are shocked.
It's risky business out there. Lot's of companies felt the pain this year, but I'm in it for the long run myself and I only extend what I can personally insure (my damn name is attached to my company), and like smax - I've always paid and I will always pay.
CX is playing the "we're looking into where the fraud came from" when they didn't run XM off of a sub id system with the advertiser - they ran everyone through one or two ("exclusive to one pub") links from XM, so there is no way for them to catch this...and there is no way there is 35% fraud, like they're claiming. Their selling point, like other networks (azn, cb, etc.) was basically "hey, we always pay you guys, even if we don't get paid...we're not like the copeacs of the world." now, when it comes down to it, they haven't paid or given any eta's. They promised resolution last week, and now it's indefinite.
Remember this situation, because it's happening way too often. Not the affiliates' fault they didn't underwrite the credit terms properly. They have money...$100m+ this year. They need to pay us. Until then !boycott!
Remember this situation, because it's happening way too often. Not the affiliates' fault they didn't underwrite the credit terms properly. They have money...$100m+ this year. They need to pay us. Until then !boycott!
Ya, vivera was def sketchy, and azn did end up disclaiming to their pubs that there is a potential risk if they continue to run. CX didn't disclose this risk, and if they were in the US, they'd face verbal contract issues (no one would persue) because of the "we'll pay you even if we don't get paid" campaign to attract business.
If we had the same heads up from CX that they would hold or potentially not pay, we'd be in much better shape.
If we had the same heads up from CX that they would hold or potentially not pay, we'd be in much better shape.
Please pull head out of ass. Everyone involved.
CX isnt here to respond, I dont think they will either?
Visa tells CX that 35% of volume is fraud. CX uses this to hold ALL payments. Nevermind having
god knows how many employees and board members to come to a decision that at worst case scenario
half is fraud and at least making a partial say 50% payment to publishers?
No that's too fucking hard. We need that cash to float these diet deals we just got live that
will hopefully save our ass.
I could make this really ugly, and if I have to wait much longer, I'm going to. All our payments
as usual, went out without a hitch.
CX isnt here to respond, I dont think they will either?
Visa tells CX that 35% of volume is fraud. CX uses this to hold ALL payments. Nevermind having
god knows how many employees and board members to come to a decision that at worst case scenario
half is fraud and at least making a partial say 50% payment to publishers?
No that's too fucking hard. We need that cash to float these diet deals we just got live that
will hopefully save our ass.
I could make this really ugly, and if I have to wait much longer, I'm going to. All our payments
as usual, went out without a hitch.
