Would you consider this unethical?

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I'm doing well with a few clickbank e-books, but I'm only getting ~75% of the profit since I'm just an affiliate. Plus, the owner gets sales from other affiliates, gets the e-mail list, etc.

Would it be unethical to rewrite their ebook, and create my own clickbank product? Not to mention I could possibly get better conversions if I came up with a better sales page, site design, etc. Basically taking an existing clickbank product, and using it as a template to create something new that would be a direct competitor.

What's your opinion?
 


No, it's smart. Just don't be too blatant about it and rip off their product too much.

There are a few niches where this kind of stuff is rampant.

Once you get a better converting product, you go through the SERPs and contact all the other affiliates, let them know your shit is better and get them to send a test 500 hops your way in exchange for 100% commissions on the first 10/15/25 sales or whatever. And then you bank.
 
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greyaisha said:
No, it's smart. Just don't be too blatant about it and rip off their product too much.

There are a few niches where this kind of stuff is rampant.

Once you get a better converting product, you go through the SERPs and contact all the other affiliates, let them know your shit is better and get them to send a test 500 hops your way in exchange for 100% commissions on the first 10/15/25 sales or whatever. And then you bank.
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YES.

Put a little effort into it. Buy some books on the subject, get information from other sources, etc.
 
lschmidt said:
Would it be unethical to rewrite their ebook, and create my own clickbank product? Not to mention I could possibly get better conversions if I came up with a better sales page, site design, etc. Basically taking an existing clickbank product, and using it as a template to create something new that would be a direct competitor.
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A "template" is not the same as taking someone's product and "rewriting" it. You'll be sitting there for ages making sure it's roughly 60-75% different if you did that.

Read over their books, pick out the points you find are good and those that are bad, make notes about other stuff to add, clarify points that are vague or don't make sense, make some better graphs, pictures, etc. for all your sections. Then, and only then, write your own book with those notes.

Don't rip someone's product or you'll be sued if they can make enough of a claim that you ripped content, even if it's a paraphrase.

greyaisha said:
Once you get a better converting product, you go through the SERPs and contact all the other affiliates, let them know your shit is better and get them to send a test 500 hops your way in exchange for 100% commissions on the first 10/15/25 sales or whatever. And then you bank.
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I like that idea.
 
lschmidt said:
I'm doing well with a few clickbank e-books, but I'm only getting ~75% of the profit since I'm just an affiliate. Plus, the owner gets sales from other affiliates, gets the e-mail list, etc.

Would it be unethical to rewrite their ebook, and create my own clickbank product? Not to mention I could possibly get better conversions if I came up with a better sales page, site design, etc. Basically taking an existing clickbank product, and using it as a template to create something new that would be a direct competitor.

What's your opinion?
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It's actually a very good idea. My friend was one of the top affiliates for this product and one day decided to make an ebook about same subject and just used the same traffic and it has been going well for him for a while. Do it bro if you're making alot off of it. Also buy your competitors products and see what they are upselling and shit
 
You'd be doing what 99% of internet marketing "guru's" are doing. So if they can get away with it, so can you. WaFo was built on rehashing.

Keep the general ideas of the book and work some of your knowledge into it.
 
I haven't been on Clickbank in a long time but last time I checked the majority of their products are bullshit anyway. If an ebook has a sales page that takes longer to read than the book itself, it's usually bullshit. In those cases, I'd have no problem ripping it off, putting it in my own words yet still retaining the exact same information, and selling it.

If it's a legitimate product that someone has spent a lot of time and effort in creating, then it would be unethical to rip it off. But there are so many guys who don't give a fuck about ethics to the point where it's gonna get ripped off anyway so adding one more affiliate to the mix doesn't really make a difference.
 
Do you remember Imran Naseem?

Where is he now?

Do not make the same mistake he did.
 
YES IT IS UNETHICAL.

If you have never done anything unethical in Life, then you should do one of the following:

1) Not do it.
2) Start doing doing what 90% of the people are doing.



Think of it this way, you are not rewriting anything. You are just entering the same Niche.. I mean you don't even have to rewrite. Just have a new one written!
 
affiliate marketing + Ethics lmfao just do it man don't waste your time asking stupid questions like this - if you know you can bank hard off it; taking what he did and making it better is a great idea.
 
Sometimes when you have to question the ethics of something it normally means you might think it's somewhat unethical yourself.

That's just one of the ways I determine ethical/unethical issues for myself, might not be the way for you.
 
Ethics? Drop them if you're serious about marketing. Take a look at those that promoted the ripoff Rebills haha
 
lschmidt said:
I'm doing well with a few clickbank e-books, but I'm only getting ~75% of the profit since I'm just an affiliate.
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Sounds like a lot of work for 25%. Have you thought about capturing lead data and marketing other stuff to them as well as selling the ebook?

greyaisha said:
Once you get a better converting product, you go through the SERPs and contact all the other affiliates, let them know your shit is better and get them to send a test 500 hops your way in exchange for 100% commissions on the first 10/15/25 sales or whatever. And then you bank.
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Great tip.

Rexibit said:
A "template" is not the same as taking someone's product and "rewriting" it. You'll be sitting there for ages making sure it's roughly 60-75% different if you did that.

Read over their books, pick out the points you find are good and those that are bad, make notes about other stuff to add, clarify points that are vague or don't make sense, make some better graphs, pictures, etc. for all your sections. Then, and only then, write your own book with those notes.

Don't rip someone's product or you'll be sued if they can make enough of a claim that you ripped content, even if it's a paraphrase.
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Also, make a better product. Repackaging a product is the creation of a new product. No two products are identical.

If you create value, you will generate sales.

Navuud said:
affiliate marketing + Ethics lmfao just do it man don't waste your time asking stupid questions like this - if you know you can bank hard off it; taking what he did and making it better is a great idea.
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Ethics are important. There is a ton of money to be made by being ethical, there are a lot of people tired of dealing with unethical douchebags.

Everything is a niche.
 
guerilla said:
Sounds like a lot of work for 25%. Have you thought about capturing lead data and marketing other stuff to them as well as selling the ebook?
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Say he's making only 10k sales a month, the product cost him 20k to develop, he now makes his ROI in less than 10 months (and he probably will want to increase the volume with the better margins) + get new affiliates + get data to monetize + upsells

Sounds like a good plan to me.
 
csnreyes said:
Ethics? Drop them if you're serious about marketing. Take a look at those that promoted the ripoff Rebills haha
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i dont find rebills unethical seeing as the info is right there on the page and its the customer's fault if they buy it without reading
 
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