Where should I go for a Dedicated Server (for an Opt-in Email Marketer)

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I'm an Opt-in Email Marketer and I currently have a dedicated server with an ok company, but I'm looking to move. What company do you guys think is the best for a dedicated server?
 


Two I can think of off the top of my head:
Rackspace and Liquidweb.

Depending on what you're planning on doing, you might even be able to get away with a VPS at Liquidweb.

Thanks for responding Kblessinggr...

I contacted Rackspace but I need RHEL 3 or CentOS 3.9 for the software I have and they couldn't do anything with either one. It was to bad too because they had no problem with the fact that I am a Opt-in email marketer.

Liquidweb's AUP seems pretty strict, do you know how they feel about compliant email marketers? I've always went a straight forward dedicated server, what's the story with a VPS?
 
VPS = Virtual Private Server. It's basically shared hosting where are guaranteed a certain amount of server resources. They normally act just like regular servers in the fact that you can install whatever apps you want. A much better alternative to shared hosting.


Thanks for responding Kblessinggr...

I contacted Rackspace but I need RHEL 3 or CentOS 3.9 for the software I have and they couldn't do anything with either one. It was to bad too because they had no problem with the fact that I am a Opt-in email marketer.

Liquidweb's AUP seems pretty strict, do you know how they feel about compliant email marketers? I've always went a straight forward dedicated server, what's the story with a VPS?
 
VPS = Virtual Private Server. It's basically shared hosting where are guaranteed a certain amount of server resources. They normally act just like regular servers in the fact that you can install whatever apps you want. A much better alternative to shared hosting.

Course with virturozzo or however its spelled, you pretty much have your own server (shared in reasoures as rage said, but guaranteed what you pay for). With virturozzo I think you can install almost anything. My VPS with knownhost is setup as "CENTOS 5.2 i686 on virtuozzo"

Basically make sure you get a package that covers the amount of rams you need as well as processor resources. For example my VPS is guaranteed 512MB of rams, but is burstable to 2gb if the resource is available. Course none of the scripts I run thus far are even a blip on the CPU usage (apparently the box I'm on has eight Quad-Core AMD Opteron(tm) Processor 2350)
 
Course with virturozzo or however its spelled, you pretty much have your own server (shared in reasoures as rage said, but guaranteed what you pay for). With virturozzo I think you can install almost anything. My VPS with knownhost is setup as "CENTOS 5.2 i686 on virtuozzo"

Basically make sure you get a package that covers the amount of rams you need as well as processor resources. For example my VPS is guaranteed 512MB of rams, but is burstable to 2gb if the resource is available. Course none of the scripts I run thus far are even a blip on the CPU usage (apparently the box I'm on has eight Quad-Core AMD Opteron(tm) Processor 2350)

Yes you are correct, but not all VPS's are created equal in that respect. Your going to see a lot running CentOS, and there are places like Linode.com [no aff link] where it really is like your own dedi server, install whatever ever you want including OS.

Also take into account whether it's managed or not, this makes a huge difference in the price. If your willing to give up some of the managed things you can score some cool deals. However I relize setting up a server environment ins't for everyone.
 
I'm an Opt-in Email Marketer and I currently have a dedicated server with an ok company, but I'm looking to move. What company do you guys think is the best for a dedicated server?



How many subscribers on your list right now?
 
Back to my original question...

I'm an Opt-in Email Marketer and I currently have a dedicated server with an ok company, but I'm looking to move. What company do you guys think is the best for a dedicated server?

Thanks
 
Rackspace will install whatever you want for a nominal fee if you send CD and might even reimage it for you with centos 3 if you ask nicely, of course if things break because their hardware doesn't play nice with RHEL 3 you get to keep both pieces.

You won't find many if any ISP's supporting RHEL/Centos 3. Virtualization of any kind is probably not an optimal solution.
 
I used to run a list of 30k from a dedicated box at EV1 (now The Planet).
The company has turned into shit as far as network connectivity and they are bleeding customers. But there never gave me shit about complains.

Just make sure you set up feedback loops with all the major e-mail recipient domains.
That way, you are the one getting the complaints, not the abuse department of the IP block your box is on.

Mine was a really clean list (and not a big list). But most of my subscribers were senile :)
So it wasn't uncommon for me to get a spam complaint and a week later a request from that same person as to why my "very informative newsletters" have stopped.

If you don't get more than 10 complaints per day, you should be fine.
 
I used to run a list of 30k from a dedicated box at EV1 (now The Planet).
The company has turned into shit as far as network connectivity and they are bleeding customers. But there never gave me shit about complains.

Just make sure you set up feedback loops with all the major e-mail recipient domains.
That way, you are the one getting the complaints, not the abuse department of the IP block your box is on.

Mine was a really clean list (and not a big list). But most of my subscribers were senile :)
So it wasn't uncommon for me to get a spam complaint and a week later a request from that same person as to why my "very informative newsletters" have stopped.

If you don't get more than 10 complaints per day, you should be fine.

Thanks BCC423, I appreciate the feedback.
 
Not so sure I could recommend ThePlanet to an emailer. They are nuts about any complaints.

I have found liquid web and softlayer to be a litte less strict.
 
All big companies act that way when receiving any abuses. This is normal.
For centos I can recommend 3FN.NET they have a customizable dedicated server order page now, so you can choose OS and more additional features if you need and have enough money:cool-smiley-008:
 
I'd recommend FDC because their datacenter is infested with warez, proxies, irc servers and mail spammers which means they recieve an immense amount of abuse complaints but more importantly they deal with most of the complainers properly by telling them to fuck off. That's the sort of host you want rather than the pansies at liquidweb or LT or wherever who turn to jelly each time they see an abuse email.
 
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