What the hell works with admob?
- Thread starter BradGrant
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I havent found anything to work... although after making some mistakes I do have some ideas now.
List building.
Offer them something for free for their email or text message alert system (or both). From there its all about you stringin them through the sales process, giving them excellent content, establishing a solid relationship, and opening up the order links.
Unless you guys have figured out how to direct link... because that would be nice.
List building.
Offer them something for free for their email or text message alert system (or both). From there its all about you stringin them through the sales process, giving them excellent content, establishing a solid relationship, and opening up the order links.
Unless you guys have figured out how to direct link... because that would be nice.
AdMob is overly expensive in my opinion.... I've been working on biz devving more friendly offers (like surveys and such). You can harness SO much traffic it's sad there are not that many good offers for it yet.
I've just started experimenting - don't really care about profitability at this point - just looking for potential.
...Like Garrett said list building seems to be a good idea.
A few tips for anyone interested in mobile advertising with list building (so you don't lose a shit load of money).
1) Get an Aweber account. Establish somewhat of a relationship with a rep there by talking on the phone with them for 15 minutes. Asking dumb ass questions and flattering them, etc.
Put your big ballin' egos away.
You'll need to call on them later when you're spam rates hit high and they want/do shut off your account. I've had friends lose hundred of thousands of hot opt-in's worth millions because they never took the time to at least have a "contact" there.
By having a "contact" there you'll avoid or be able to reverse this. Even with my occasional 5% spam rate.
Note: contact me for my rep and I'll walk to your house/cardboard box under the bridge and slap you for wanting hand outs like i'm the fucking guberment over here.
2) Double opt-in is for peasants. With mobile 50+% won't confirm their subscription. Meaning you just lost 50% of your hot leads.
When making your campaign in Aweber the double opt-in will be on by default. Turn it OFF. Because of this though some people will spam your message quick and if it goes over 1% for a few messages in a row Aweber will come a knocking. Thus why you have a "rep".
3) Your "confirmation page" needs to be an offer. This is the single biggest mistake people make. Most won't read your little e-mails. So getting the consumer, while they're all pumped and opt-ed in, to see a relevant offer right away is critical to say the very least.
4) The vast majority won't EVER look at the free video (video works best) or e-book you give them in return for opting in. It's not about what you give them. It's about how you give it to them.
Perceived value is fucking everything. Thus why people constantly pay 2k for these guru products that aren't worth the time to watch/read them usually.
I won't get into opening sales copy or anything like that but get cashvertising and follow the sixth point to learn about perceived value and general GOOD copywriting.
5) Once you have enough data you'll see a trend. We, as humans, get bored quickly. We're always looking for the new "hot" thing. A quick fix. You'll, for the first week, get a good open rate and then it'll drop off with your older subscribers as they get bored or realize you just sold 'em some berries that made them lose more money than pounds.
Push, push, push during the first 2-3 weeks. It's the old 80/20 rule. 80% of your profits while pushing iffy offers will come during this time period.
6) Swipe all Frank Kern e-mails you can. Come hate when you can send out a few e-mails and make 5 million. Till then learn from the best when it comes to being perceived as "cool" even with the bulging gut and hair that looks like my golden retrievers.
You can't opt-in anymore to his list. Maybe I'll make a mediafire link where you can download my favorite 25 e-mails from him.
USE HIS E-MAILS AS TEMPLATES.
I've had, recently, e-mails that have made me huge amounts of money in niches as far away from the MMO market as you can possibly get.
I took his title word for word. Took his body concept. And literally changed the links and inserted a little niche wording and took out references to the MMO niche and such.
7) Keep your e-mails short. Good rule of thumb is for anything under a 20 dollar payout your e-mail shouldn't go below the fold while reading in gmail, yahoo mail, etc.
Anything between $40-80 it should be roughly double the fold area with links above the fold.
Anything over an 80 dollar payout you'll need a storyline with links at the END only. Pre-sell 101.
...Like Garrett said list building seems to be a good idea.
A few tips for anyone interested in mobile advertising with list building (so you don't lose a shit load of money).
1) Get an Aweber account. Establish somewhat of a relationship with a rep there by talking on the phone with them for 15 minutes. Asking dumb ass questions and flattering them, etc.
Put your big ballin' egos away.
You'll need to call on them later when you're spam rates hit high and they want/do shut off your account. I've had friends lose hundred of thousands of hot opt-in's worth millions because they never took the time to at least have a "contact" there.
By having a "contact" there you'll avoid or be able to reverse this. Even with my occasional 5% spam rate.
Note: contact me for my rep and I'll walk to your house/cardboard box under the bridge and slap you for wanting hand outs like i'm the fucking guberment over here.
2) Double opt-in is for peasants. With mobile 50+% won't confirm their subscription. Meaning you just lost 50% of your hot leads.
When making your campaign in Aweber the double opt-in will be on by default. Turn it OFF. Because of this though some people will spam your message quick and if it goes over 1% for a few messages in a row Aweber will come a knocking. Thus why you have a "rep".
3) Your "confirmation page" needs to be an offer. This is the single biggest mistake people make. Most won't read your little e-mails. So getting the consumer, while they're all pumped and opt-ed in, to see a relevant offer right away is critical to say the very least.
4) The vast majority won't EVER look at the free video (video works best) or e-book you give them in return for opting in. It's not about what you give them. It's about how you give it to them.
Perceived value is fucking everything. Thus why people constantly pay 2k for these guru products that aren't worth the time to watch/read them usually.
I won't get into opening sales copy or anything like that but get cashvertising and follow the sixth point to learn about perceived value and general GOOD copywriting.
5) Once you have enough data you'll see a trend. We, as humans, get bored quickly. We're always looking for the new "hot" thing. A quick fix. You'll, for the first week, get a good open rate and then it'll drop off with your older subscribers as they get bored or realize you just sold 'em some berries that made them lose more money than pounds.
Push, push, push during the first 2-3 weeks. It's the old 80/20 rule. 80% of your profits while pushing iffy offers will come during this time period.
6) Swipe all Frank Kern e-mails you can. Come hate when you can send out a few e-mails and make 5 million. Till then learn from the best when it comes to being perceived as "cool" even with the bulging gut and hair that looks like my golden retrievers.
You can't opt-in anymore to his list. Maybe I'll make a mediafire link where you can download my favorite 25 e-mails from him.
USE HIS E-MAILS AS TEMPLATES.
I've had, recently, e-mails that have made me huge amounts of money in niches as far away from the MMO market as you can possibly get.
I took his title word for word. Took his body concept. And literally changed the links and inserted a little niche wording and took out references to the MMO niche and such.
7) Keep your e-mails short. Good rule of thumb is for anything under a 20 dollar payout your e-mail shouldn't go below the fold while reading in gmail, yahoo mail, etc.
Anything between $40-80 it should be roughly double the fold area with links above the fold.
Anything over an 80 dollar payout you'll need a storyline with links at the END only. Pre-sell 101.
please
also your post was probably the most useful thing posted on wf in at least a month.
I've had good luck with offers related around free offers and electronics for free that are popular like the new iPad and iPhone even. But they are expensive so it's not really profitable to use unless you can get ahold of some vouchers at a decent rate.
Here ya go: Free File Hosting Made Simple - MediaFire
I've never uploaded anything before. Should work alright. It's just a doc with titles and e-mail copy. Some have notes to remind me what the e-mails did.
One long e-mail, for a $2,000 product, got him the #1 JV spot. The last e-mail, the most recent one, promoting Outsource Force will also put him in the top 5 JV's IMO.
No bonus or any shit like that.
Can easily be used to get you thinking about not only e-mail copy in your own niches but flogs/farticles, etc.
I've just started experimenting - don't really care about profitability at this point - just looking for potential.
...Like Garrett said list building seems to be a good idea.
A few tips for anyone interested in mobile advertising with list building (so you don't lose a shit load of money).
1) Get an Aweber account. Establish somewhat of a relationship with a rep there by talking on the phone with them for 15 minutes. Asking dumb ass questions and flattering them, etc.
Put your big ballin' egos away.
You'll need to call on them later when you're spam rates hit high and they want/do shut off your account. I've had friends lose hundred of thousands of hot opt-in's worth millions because they never took the time to at least have a "contact" there.
By having a "contact" there you'll avoid or be able to reverse this. Even with my occasional 5% spam rate.
Note: contact me for my rep and I'll walk to your house/cardboard box under the bridge and slap you for wanting hand outs like i'm the fucking guberment over here.
2) Double opt-in is for peasants. With mobile 50+% won't confirm their subscription. Meaning you just lost 50% of your hot leads.
When making your campaign in Aweber the double opt-in will be on by default. Turn it OFF. Because of this though some people will spam your message quick and if it goes over 1% for a few messages in a row Aweber will come a knocking. Thus why you have a "rep".
3) Your "confirmation page" needs to be an offer. This is the single biggest mistake people make. Most won't read your little e-mails. So getting the consumer, while they're all pumped and opt-ed in, to see a relevant offer right away is critical to say the very least.
4) The vast majority won't EVER look at the free video (video works best) or e-book you give them in return for opting in. It's not about what you give them. It's about how you give it to them.
Perceived value is fucking everything. Thus why people constantly pay 2k for these guru products that aren't worth the time to watch/read them usually.
I won't get into opening sales copy or anything like that but get cashvertising and follow the sixth point to learn about perceived value and general GOOD copywriting.
5) Once you have enough data you'll see a trend. We, as humans, get bored quickly. We're always looking for the new "hot" thing. A quick fix. You'll, for the first week, get a good open rate and then it'll drop off with your older subscribers as they get bored or realize you just sold 'em some berries that made them lose more money than pounds.
Push, push, push during the first 2-3 weeks. It's the old 80/20 rule. 80% of your profits while pushing iffy offers will come during this time period.
6) Swipe all Frank Kern e-mails you can. Come hate when you can send out a few e-mails and make 5 million. Till then learn from the best when it comes to being perceived as "cool" even with the bulging gut and hair that looks like my golden retrievers.
You can't opt-in anymore to his list. Maybe I'll make a mediafire link where you can download my favorite 25 e-mails from him.
USE HIS E-MAILS AS TEMPLATES.
I've had, recently, e-mails that have made me huge amounts of money in niches as far away from the MMO market as you can possibly get.
I took his title word for word. Took his body concept. And literally changed the links and inserted a little niche wording and took out references to the MMO niche and such.
7) Keep your e-mails short. Good rule of thumb is for anything under a 20 dollar payout your e-mail shouldn't go below the fold while reading in gmail, yahoo mail, etc.
Anything between $40-80 it should be roughly double the fold area with links above the fold.
Anything over an 80 dollar payout you'll need a storyline with links at the END only. Pre-sell 101.
This is a great primer on list building.
The question however is whether collecting opt-ins on a mobile device really has any advantages over doing this with regular PPC / PPV / SEO / WTF. I am just getting started with a few mobile ad tests, but so far not convinced merely replicating desktop-style offers - even formatted for mobile device - is the best way to go. I am thinking about click-to-call, mobile app downloads, location based services, but right now offers like this are not that easy to find.
PS: In point 3 you probably meant "thank you page", shown right after email form submission. At least in AWeber "confirmation page" is what you see after you confirm double-opt-in, which is indeed for peasantry. Another way to think of why you have to put something on "thank you" page is to consider how low typical open and click rates are... Show your offer to the visitors while they are paying attention, do not count on them ever reading your email later.
Not saying e-mail marketing with mobile is any more effective than with any other typical desktop traffic source. It's not. But it is a viable way of trying to get profitable with mobile when click-to-call, mobile app, etc offers are hard to find or aren't refined enough for consumers to use yet.
What you need to remember is not everyone will always check their e-mails on their phone - or even have the ability to.
Your e-mails for the most part will be read on a computer making those that entered their e-mail no different, in theory, than any other opt-in whether from your PPV efforts, etc.
Yeah, noticed that but it was after the 10 minutes you have to edit. Since you're not using double opt-in there's no "confirmation e-mail" or page anyway. So yeah you want your offer to be seen right away on the "thank you" page.