[Tax Question] Can you deduct the SEO services you buy from the BST section?

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Hello gangsters,

this might sound like a noob question, but can I include all the services I buy from the BST section as "business expenses" when filing income tax? (I'm a sole proprietor). If yes, are the paypal receipts good enough for the gov as a proof? I understand most service providers are individuals here so it's not like I can have any kind of official receipt...

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It is an advertising and promotions expense, so yes you can. You don't have to provide your receipts unless you are audited or you accountant asks for them.
 
I do it all the time as outsourced work on my taxes. And if you really need a receipt I believe you can just show the records from paypal.

Also can people star to freaking use the NSFW or Boobs icons with tits, the last 5 topics have just randomly had tits in them and its pissing me off since I am in a public place today.
 
shitty thing about PayPal is they keep only 1 month of history, or maybe I am doing something wrong? Would be nice if I could just print off my yearly spendings history from PayPal when tax season comes but doesn't seem like it's possible...
 
shitty thing about PayPal is they keep only 1 month of history, or maybe I am doing something wrong? Would be nice if I could just print off my yearly spendings history from PayPal when tax season comes but doesn't seem like it's possible...


If you have a bank account or CC linked to your paypal, wouldn't all your paypal transactions show up on your bank statement?
 
shitty thing about PayPal is they keep only 1 month of history, or maybe I am doing something wrong? Would be nice if I could just print off my yearly spendings history from PayPal when tax season comes but doesn't seem like it's possible...

You should be able to view all transactions and go as far back in time as you like.
 
If you pay any one person over $600/yr you are supposed to get them to fill out a W9 and file a 1099 for that money at the end of the year. So the IRS can make sure to rape them if they try not to pay their taxes.

This doesn't apply to paying corporations, that's why you don't have to 1099 ad networks ect.
 
If you pay any one person over $600/yr you are supposed to get them to fill out a W9 and file a 1099 for that money at the end of the year. So the IRS can make sure to rape them if they try not to pay their taxes.

This doesn't apply to paying corporations, that's why you don't have to 1099 ad networks ect.

90% of service providers in the BST section here are overseas so I don't think this applies...
 
You can definitely look as far back as you wish in paypal.

It will only show the last month on the first page when you sign in....but you just have to do a search for the time period in question.
 
shitty thing about PayPal is they keep only 1 month of history, or maybe I am doing something wrong? Would be nice if I could just print off my yearly spendings history from PayPal when tax season comes but doesn't seem like it's possible...


I am pretty sure that PhotoShop can take care of any additional documentation needs that may arise.

All kidding aside, just about any money you spend on your business is deductible on your taxes. There are very few things that you really need to be careful with. To me the diciest one is the "Home Office" deduction, I am not talking about the stuff w/ receipts I am referring to deducting part of your house as office space. I have been self employed for 15 years and this is the one thing I refuse to deduct. Its a major audit trigger, I know some guys will disagree but I would rather come up with other deductions (like millage, entertainment, travel) to offset this.

The bottom line to this post is don't be afraid to take deductions on your taxes. If this is the first time your filling out a Schedule C your may be better off just hiring a CPA for $300 and not have to worry about it.
 
I am pretty sure that PhotoShop can take care of any additional documentation needs that may arise.

All kidding aside, just about any money you spend on your business is deductible on your taxes. There are very few things that you really need to be careful with. To me the diciest one is the "Home Office" deduction, I am not talking about the stuff w/ receipts I am referring to deducting part of your house as office space. I have been self employed for 15 years and this is the one thing I refuse to deduct. Its a major audit trigger, I know some guys will disagree but I would rather come up with other deductions (like millage, entertainment, travel) to offset this.

The bottom line to this post is don't be afraid to take deductions on your taxes. If this is the first time your filling out a Schedule C your may be better off just hiring a CPA for $300 and not have to worry about it.

I agree on the home biz section.. I have preached this for years offline and on this forum and people think im crazy. Its a major audit flag as small business owners are one of the #1 targets for the IRS because of all the sloppiness and fraud that goes on.. so one of their main triggers is the home office.

The other major one is purchasing a car/truck for your business when your a small business as well. Its 100x better to just write off mileage then trying to buy a car and do it over the amount of years needed for its value.

Claiming offshore investments, even if legit will get the flag as well.

Having an average income for one year and then hitting over 330k the next year will also raise a flag for those of you that jumped into AM and left your day job only to hit it big within the next tax year, this big increase looks very suspect and raises your chances. Also, losing a ton of money does the same thing.
 
Having an average income for one year and then hitting over 330k the next year will also raise a flag for those of you that jumped into AM and left your day job only to hit it big within the next tax year, this big increase looks very suspect and raises your chances. Also, losing a ton of money does the same thing.

One thing that I think has been very helpful for me in avoiding being audited is to keep everything within 10 % from year to year. What I mean by this is try to keep your deductions within 10% + or - of what they were last year.. Now thats not to say if you have legitimt changes you shouldnt report it because you should, but what I am saying is if you take an aggressive approach to finding "deductions" a 10% increase or decrease would be "aggressive" . I am not suggesting you dont report your 30k income that went to $300,000 (thats how they got Capone) you need to declare that income. However your deductions will be higher as well so your actual Income wont be anywhere near your Gross Revenue.

. Its 100x better to just write off mileage then trying to buy a car and do it over the amount of years needed for its value.

This is spot on. The mileage deduction is almost .40 cents a mile and can really add up. This is usually one of my biggest deductions. You can find all kinds of excuses for business. If your going to claim the mileage (you really really should) keep a few things in mind.

1. Keep a written mileage log (this is the first thing the Auditor will ask you for) and if you don't have it your fucked (can you say penalties and interest) so just right down where you went, who you saw and how many miles you went.

2. You can not count your "commute" to your 1st and last stop of the day no matter how far they were. So you should always stop at the Post Office on the way to work (if its like a mile or less from home otherwise find something "business" and then stop at the Bank on the way home (again this is an example find something close to home)

3. Its really helpful to have a 2nd vehicle thats available for non working hours. This helps with the audit thing again. This can be wife's car or a $100 better car you register just for this purpose ( you dont have to really drive it, IRS just thinks you do)

4. Write down your beginning of year miles on your vehicle and then again at the End of year. (if you dont know last years make a best guess)

5 Split those total miles between business and personal you will need these totals for your Tax return. I really like to keep my ratio at 25 to 30% personal millage (non deductible) and the rest can be business.

Just remember that when you deduct millage thats all you get no gas,repairs, or maintenance can be deducted. But don't worry you will be way better off.

Now I know a lot of guys will say but I work from home and dont drive any where. So here are some potential trips for a Aff Marketer
1 Conferences ie.. Affiliate Summit
2. Local Business for Prospecting for SEO services
3. Networking meals and meetings.
4. Client meetings (Attorney and CPA counts)
5. Supplies runs and all kinds of other stuff.

I know this was kind of a long post but I think its something that might help out a little bit and just might save you thousands of dollars. Again I am not a CPA but I do have a 100% zero audit record so just going off of experience.
 
@dmnEPC & @eliquid

I'm not sure I follow your logic with the "Home Office" deduction. If you run an online business from home (AM, SEO, Web Design, etc...) the Gov is naturally going to expect you to deduct a certain percentage of your home expenses as a biz expense. How is that an audit flag? For example, I use one big room in our apartment as my office, which is roughly 25% of the whole house in terms of area size. Why would I not deduct this? It's a major recurring expense...

I can see how it's an audit flag if you deduct 75% of your home expenses, but if it's a reasonable amount there is no reason why it would raise their eyebrows...
 
@dmnEPC & @eliquid

I'm not sure I follow your logic with the "Home Office" deduction. If you run an online business from home (AM, SEO, Web Design, etc...) the Gov is naturally going to expect you to deduct a certain percentage of your home expenses as a biz expense. How is that an audit flag? For example, I use one big room in our apartment as my office, which is roughly 25% of the whole house in terms of area size. Why would I not deduct this? It's a major recurring expense...

I can see how it's an audit flag if you deduct 75% of your home expenses, but if it's a reasonable amount there is no reason why it would raise their eyebrows...

About 1% of people get audited. The ones that do have audit flags. Being self employed is a small flag (a lot of people are self employed). People using the Home Office Deduction is definitely a Audit Flag (very few people have a legitimate home office) so its a flag (not a guarantee of an audit) however if your accountant tells you to take the deduction than take it.

The main reason I have been advised against it from 2 different Accountants is the Client or Customer Access section. This doesn't go into it to much but it touches on it. From what I understand its "strongly" encouraged to have separate entrances and parking for customers as well as signage.

The point I am trying to make is this, Your likelihood of being audited goes up just by being self employed ( but still unlikely) the use of the"Home Office Deduction" just puts you into higher risk class "less legitimate in the IRS eyes" and hence the higher potential for audit.

So to me its just not worth risking an audit when I can be aggressive with other areas of my return (mileage, travel, supplies, postage,cell phone,etc..) that are not scrutinized nearly as much.

Here is a small snippet from IRS.gov

[*]As your principal place of business, or
[*]As a place to meet or deal with patients, clients or customers in the normal course of your business, or
[*]In any connection with your trade or business where the business portion of your home is a separate structure not attached to your home.
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For certain storage use, rental use, or daycare-facility use, you are required to use the property regularly but not exclusively.
Generally, the amount you can deduct depends on the percentage of your home used for business. Your deduction for certain expenses will be limited if your gross income from your business is less than your total business expenses."