Some questions related to keywords and titles.

parody

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Hey Guys

I have a couple of questions i cant seem to find the answer for.

1. When your targeting keyword do A or other such fillers count or do search engines ignore them ? E.g such as " Toilet with lid" or "Toilet with A lid"

Are these considered the same ?

On some of the key words Ive researched I see significantly more hits per month than the other.. All from not having the simple "a" included.

2. If i was to write an article based on Toilet with lid, would a title of the article "Toilet with a lid that is too big" rank for both keywords or just toilet with a lid?

3. Should i just make the article title the exact key phrase?

"Toilet with lid"

Or put words around it... i think "Toilet with lid" looks lame.

:uhoh2:

Any suggestions would be great guys!
 


1. yes, all those word like "a", "the" are normally being ignored
2 & 3. Not necessary to have exact keyword phase as long as your title contain the keyword phrase is good enough
 
it seems in my opinion that "a" and "the" doesn't matter much.. but I think if you can avoid them, just do it!
 
Make a natural sounding title that incorporates your keywords, and variations of the keywords that you want to use. They just need to be there.

So something like "Tips abut toilet's with a lid" and then you can link build around "toiler tips" "toilet lid" "toilet with a lid" etc etc.

However, if there are tons of different keywords you are trying for, you will probably want to break it up into separate pages.
 
Keyword research tips

Hi Parody,

I might be able to offer you a tip here. Check out the difference between "broad match" "phrase match" and "exact match" in Google. In reality, no normal punter would put quotes around their search, hence

Toilet lid
Toilet with lid
Toilet with a lid
Toilet and lid

and even

lid of toilet

would pretty much all come up the same in a Google search. (Try it and see if the numbers change!)

So it won't matter for the title of a report, squidoo lens, hub page etc.

Those are called "broad match" keywords by Google.

However, if you're wanting your website to rank for a particular keyword, you might find that "toilets with lids" does better than "toilet with a lid" for some obscure reason. Use Google's keyword tool and select "exact match" when doing this kind of research.

From there on in, it becomes more complex - too much for a quick posting here, but I hope that helps to clarify a bit.

Btw, just out of curiosity, I couldn't help wondering if "toilets with lids" is actually your niche ... and if it isn't ... what on earth were you thinking about when you wrote your question ... and why? None of my business ... and I don't expect an answer, but I've got a head full of toilet images now!

Cheers,
Trev,
 
hahaha i was sitting on the toilet with my laptop when i was writing that haha needless to say that is not my niche, Ive just come across this with several keywords ive tried to rank for.

Thank you all for your answers.
 
the toilet lid niche is huge right now, you heard it here first. get into mobile toilet offers asap
 
1. Its always easy to make it to the top 10 if you have the exact KW.
If you are targetting KW - Toilet with A lid, then I would go for a domain ToiletwithAlid.com,.org,.net.
2. Its important to have the exact words in the title. you can add up something to left or right to make it sensible. If you can use the exact KW alone that would be great. I use only KW.
3. Almost similar answer to 2nd.
 
Having the title the way you described it would allow you to rank for both phrases with and without the "a"; Which are technically treated separately...but most all searches on Google are performed as a normal search "broad match", so in that case you should be coming up for both variations.