So who's going to profit from this?



Have a program on the way, hope to have it wrapped up in January. Currently it is geared towards a specific niche or professionals, but once I prove concept ill probably push it towards the "new to job market" type kids.

not just scrubbing/rep management but reputation building/professional positioning for jobs.
 
Whatever happen to just calling and doing an interview? In a way it's spying. From now on, If i look at a application, i will search the web, if she has big tits, ill call her, if not, move on.
 
I actually searched for the names in my immediate family. My husband is good - apparently there is an athlete or two with his name. My name brings up my various profiles and the superintendent of schools in North Carolina. My younger son brings up some athletes, but the first images for my older son are mugshots from some speed junkie. I'm not going to worry about it much since he's 7, but it will be interesting to see how things change over time.
 
Veritas said:
Whatever happen to just calling and doing an interview? In a way it's spying. From now on, If i look at a application, i will search the web, if she has big tits, ill call her, if not, move on.
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A little relevant: At one of my jobs, my boss looked up the average home value in a guy's neighborhood and then reduced his offer by a huge amount because "there was no way he is worth that much" based on how much the home's in his neighborhood cost. This guy was just a developer - wasn't in some sort of bad neighborhood either.
 
Well obviously BrandYourSelf will profit big from this partnership especially when they get addon modules up and going. Their solution is trash though, it won't help 90% of the people out there that have online issues.
 
Such a terrible target market unless you can get them onto some type of long term rebill.

Doing ORM is my most hated job by far, you generally deal with people who have done something extremely morally questionable or down right illegal and then they want to make sure others can't find out about it.

On top of that, the people themselves are generally scumbags that try to nickle and dime you or down right rob you.

Honestly I have no idea how people like CCarter deal with it. Even when I was making good money doing it, I hated it.

I'd rather suck dick for cheeseburgers than get back into that bullshit.
 
zxvff said:
A little relevant: At one of my jobs, my boss looked up the average home value in a guy's neighborhood and then reduced his offer by a huge amount because "there was no way he is worth that much" based on how much the home's in his neighborhood cost. This guy was just a developer - wasn't in some sort of bad neighborhood either.
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Did the guy accept the job?
 
tencentpiece said:
On top of that, the people themselves are generally scumbags that try to nickle and dime you or down right rob you.

Honestly I have no idea how people like CCarter deal with it. Even when I was making good money doing it, I hated it.
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I mostly do Pro-active Reputation Management. Meaning, there maybe some trouble down the road and we build defenses for it 6 to 8 months ahead of time. Also, some of you people are in generally questionable fields, and the pro-active ORM I do, helps create layers of protections for your brands and individuals in your company. Always controlling the first 1-3 pages of your SERP results is important for individuals and brands. The SEO benefits are tremendous since there is an active long tail and short tail campaign involved. So you not only protect your brand you grow your sales and make sure what is seen is always in a positive light. It's better to be safe and have online growth, then one day have a mad employee, customer, or competitor decide to attack your brand without no defense. What i do is more like a savings account where we build up positive for that rainy day that eventually comes.

Most of the individual cases that come to me have a problem with SEC, or some Federal lawsuit, or just some court situation they would rather not show up. I rarely take a client on in the middle of a Negative Reputation unless they decide to change the problem that caused it, even then it usually is a waiting game until the media/news decides they are yesterday's news. Then I go to work. I don't waste my time with scumbags, and am very short with people. They start nickling and dime, I cancel the contract, no refunds. I don't have time for games.
 
I would have thought it the perfect time to start building your safeguards & arsenal - by the time you're down the business path you'll already have a ~5 year history of good press.
 
zxvff said:
A little relevant: At one of my jobs, my boss looked up the average home value in a guy's neighborhood and then reduced his offer by a huge amount because "there was no way he is worth that much" based on how much the home's in his neighborhood cost. This guy was just a developer - wasn't in some sort of bad neighborhood either.
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What an idiot.
 
I'm in the ORM biz and I'm slowly spacing myself from it (for a lot of reasons), and have talked to a few members here about it. If you ask me it's much more profitable to be the person RUINING the reputation with sites like tripadvisor, glassdoor.. etc. that's where the real money is. I totally do not want to go down that road either.

If youre in ORM biz (and i don't know why you would stay) i suggest you start building up your blog network now (and fast) because with google, colleges, agencies, and people like us all trying to benefit from managing online rep it's going to get a lot, lot harder.

EDIT: while you guys think the college demographic is bad, i don't think you're piecing together what these parents shell out for these kids to go college. people going to college or people coming out of college was a common client for me (of course parents paid the bill), they're the people who are put under the microscope (getting accepted to college, or getting a job out of college)
 
overbech said:
I'm in the ORM biz and I'm slowly spacing myself from it (for a lot of reasons), and have talked to a few members here about it. If you ask me it's much more profitable to be the person RUINING the reputation with sites like tripadvisor, glassdoor.. etc. that's where the real money is. I totally do not want to go down that road either.

If youre in ORM biz (and i don't know why you would stay) i suggest you start building up your blog network now (and fast) because with google, colleges, agencies, and people like us all trying to benefit from managing online rep it's going to get a lot, lot harder.

EDIT: while you guys think the college demographic is bad, i don't think you're piecing together what these parents shell out for these kids to go college. people going to college or people coming out of college was a common client for me (of course parents paid the bill), they're the people who are put under the microscope (getting accepted to college, or getting a job out of college)
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Harder? That's when you charge more. If it was easy you would be seeing $99 Reputation Management. I've got a Re-active ORM service which guarantees complete control of first 3 pages within 90-120 days, Major results as soon as 2 weeks. The difference with me and everyone else is I know what I am doing and can make my guarantee. You can barely find anyone who gives guarantees for SEO let alone Rep Management. I love it when I see posts like your stating it's getting harder, just more money ;)
 
CCarter said:
Harder? That's when you charge more. If it was easy you would be seeing $99 Reputation Management. I've got a Re-active ORM service which guarantees complete control of first 3 pages within 90-120 days, Major results as soon as 2 weeks. The difference with me and everyone else is I know what I am doing and can make my guarantee. You can barely find anyone who gives guarantees for SEO let alone Rep Management. I love it when I see posts like your stating it's getting harder, just more money ;)
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what? lol. at a certain point the price point it's too high for too many people = less money. not everyone can be an expert. you're also expanding on a very small point on what i saying.

and you're right i would never give a guarantee. ever. TBH very surprising to hear you do.

i envy your ability to obtain clients with a clear set of rules of who you will and wont take, something that i've been learning all too much recently.
 
overbech said:
what? lol. at a certain point the price point it's too high for too many people = less money. not everyone can be an expert. you're also expanding on a very small point on what i saying.

and you're right i would never give a guarantee. ever. TBH very surprising to hear you do.

i envy your ability to obtain clients with a clear set of rules of who you will and wont take, something that i've been learning all too much recently.
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It took me awhile to starting being selective. I am from the school of less clients but higher margins. I am not look for more clients at lower margins. I did that back then, and was pretty miserable. As part of my mental philosophy, I just deal with people I want to, cause in the long run it's about happiness.
 
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