"Snowden is a traitor!"
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Technically, he is.
But that's like calling someone who has killed a cop a "cop killer." Facts are facts, but they don't automatically make someone a bad person.
Essentially, Snowden did betray his masters' trust. Is he a traitor in the true sense of the word? Sure. But it doesn't bother me a bit.
But that's like calling someone who has killed a cop a "cop killer." Facts are facts, but they don't automatically make someone a bad person.
Essentially, Snowden did betray his masters' trust. Is he a traitor in the true sense of the word? Sure. But it doesn't bother me a bit.
Well it depends, he swore an oath to the constitution*. What he found was in violation of the constitution (4th amendment). Ultimately the constitution trumps any other oaths/contracts made to other gov. agencies. If this is the case, the NSA is the traitor.
What Would Edward Snowden Argue in a U.S. Espionage Trial? | Fox News Insider
* I'm no fan boy of the constitution.
That sounds right.
Admittedly, I haven't followed the case closely (I've been trying to stay unplugged from "incidents" and spend more time in concepts), so I'm ignorant about the details. For example, I'm unaware of what oaths he swore, and to whom or what he swore them.
As for the NSA being a traitor for violating the 4th amendment, yeah. I suppose that's true. But using that rubric, all the charlatans who infest D.C. are traitors, as are their many bureaucratic lapdogs.
Personally, I find it far more interesting to hear someone say, "Snowden is a traitor!" and ask them why they think so, and why being a traitor is morally bad.
Snowden is a hero and a true American. People calling him a traitor are mindless sheep who just meekly accept everything the establishment tells them.
Yep! That's why you can't say politician without corrupt. But it does go to show how meaningless and useless the constitution actually is. If only some scribblings on a piece of paper could prevent wrong doing.
It's even more evident just how shitty the concept of a constitution is when you consider Obama was a constitutional law professor. Yet he gives a single fuck about it.
He is about to team up with wikileaks in Ecuador. NSA won't be able to touch him...
My thing though, NSA is pulling data from all the big tech companies(Google,Facebook,Skype ect..) just saying if I was a terroist I don't think I would be meeting up on a Skype chat channel to chit chat.... Or have a Facebook... /facepalm.
My thing though, NSA is pulling data from all the big tech companies(Google,Facebook,Skype ect..) just saying if I was a terroist I don't think I would be meeting up on a Skype chat channel to chit chat.... Or have a Facebook... /facepalm.
This is all bullshit. Moody's has pretty much downgraded the entire banking system in HK becaues of this. This snowden thing is nothing more than a smoke screen for the NSA; the US is laying the groundwork for WW3.
The courts will just argue that an "enemy" can just turn on the tv or read a newspaper and that this would effectively mean that he indirectly shared it with an enemy.
Of course, if this were true, then pretty much all media organizations are playing a role in espionage.
'Rage Against the Machine' Guitarist Tom Morello -- I'll Pay for Edward Snowden's Escape Flight | TMZ.com
..and of course there are plenty in the comments calling Morello a traitor as well, lol.
..and of course there are plenty in the comments calling Morello a traitor as well, lol.
honestly think about it... what made you think he was a trator?
your own government have been spying on you through technology giants and you think this dude is a trator....
no wonder why america's general status is "FUCKED"...
your own government have been spying on you through technology giants and you think this dude is a trator....
no wonder why america's general status is "FUCKED"...
Here, we have the Senator from SC, after watching the media reports, thinking he may be able to score a few points with the common folk if he used some of his political weight to lean on the Russians to send this traitorous fugitive back to the US to face justice:
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Here, we have the Senator from SC, after watching the media reports, thinking he may be able to score a few points with the common folk if he used some of his political weight to lean on the Russians to send this traitorous fugitive back to the US to face justice:
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The comments in that thread are just fucking fantastic. I am not an american, however watching from a broad as your media and government try to pull a fast one on you a blatantly manipulate your views to cover up their constitutional violations.
I am just glad to see there are a few non-ignorant souls left to stand up to these cock bags.
