Reincarnation would be a bitch for the average person in the first world

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Why? Because you're already in the top, what, 1% of the global human population in terms of quality of life. Odds are that you'll be reincarnated as someone worse off than you are now.

Now if you factor in the possibility of being reincarnated into another species, together with the fact that humans make up an incredibly small percentage of the world's biomass, you'd better pray that you're reincarnated as a sea cucumber in the murkiest, most inaccessible and inhospitable depths of the ocean since pretty much every living thing near the surface of the Earth is being hurt, killed or exploited by humans beings to the max (how would you like to be a chicken in an industrial cage or a monkey in the middle of a forest that's being cut down?)

But then again maybe I don't have a clue about the relative happiness of various living beings and maybe the dolphins really are laughing at the way we live our lives. Maybe there are even happier animals.

I wash not shmoking nuffin while writing dis post officer
 


Or maybe life is but a dream and when you die you'll go back to the nothingness out of which your entire universe was born, and then do it all over again for eternity. But there will be no static 'you' which goes from life to life, so you'll never know it happened before and it won't matter.
 
If that was true it wouldn't make a difference - what if your next "dream" was of being an abused farm animal who ultimately ends up being slaughtered?
 
"OK, well this was my thought: 50,000 years ago, there are not even a million people on the planet. 10,000 years ago, there's, like, two million people on the planet. Now there's between five and six billion people on the planet, right? Now, if we all have our own, like, individual, unique soul, right, where do they all come from? You know, are modern souls only a fraction of the original souls? 'Cause if they are, that represents a 5,000 to 1 split of each soul in the last 50,000 years, which is, like, a blip in the Earth's time. You know, so at best we're like these tiny fractions of people, you know, walking... I mean, is that why we're so scattered? You know, is that why we're all so specialized?"

Before Sunrise (1995) - Memorable quotes
 
^ You don't necessarily have to have a soul to reincarnate. You just "happen" to be the consciousness of a living being. Plus there's also the possibility of reincarnating into the past or the future, and parallel universes mean multiple "souls" could be living the same person at once.

Shit just got serious. I need to lay down.
 
If that was true it wouldn't make a difference - what if your next "dream" was of being an abused farm animal who ultimately ends up being slaughtered?

When you're having a good dream, do you worry about your next dream and say "oh shit I hope I don't end up having a nightmare tomorrow"? Probably not, because you don't know it's a dream. Now pretend this is all a dream and you're going to wake up at any time, so you're now lucid dreaming (because you know its a dream). Your dream character isn't going to experience tomorrow's dream, because your dream character doesn't exist - its an illusion.

There's no reason for you to worry about the next dream now since it's not going to be happening to the 'you' you think you are. It'll be happening to a completely different being.

Right now you're actually the entirety of the dream, but you're under the false impression that you're a single human being living on a continent called North America with a nice bank account, and good things. You're actually the dreamer of the entire dream.
 
When you're having a good dream, do you worry about your next dream and say "oh shit I hope I don't end up having a nightmare tomorrow"? Probably not, because you don't know it's a dream. Now pretend this is all a dream and you're going to wake up at any time, so you're now lucid dreaming (because you know its a dream). Your dream character isn't going to experience tomorrow's dream, because your dream character doesn't exist - its an illusion.

There's no reason for you to worry about the next dream now since it's not going to be happening to the 'you' you think you are. It'll be happening to a completely different being.

Right now you're actually the entirety of the dream, but you're under the false impression that you're a single human being living on a continent called North America with a nice bank account, and good things. You're actually the dreamer of the entire dream.

thanks for ruining my sunday
 
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Happy is the man who can endure the highest and lowest fortune. He who has endured such vicissitudes with equanimity has deprived misfortune of its power.
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When you're having a good dream, do you worry about your next dream and say "oh shit I hope I don't end up having a nightmare tomorrow"? Probably not, because you don't know it's a dream. Now pretend this is all a dream and you're going to wake up at any time, so you're now lucid dreaming (because you know its a dream). Your dream character isn't going to experience tomorrow's dream, because your dream character doesn't exist - its an illusion.

There's no reason for you to worry about the next dream now since it's not going to be happening to the 'you' you think you are. It'll be happening to a completely different being.

Right now you're actually the entirety of the dream, but you're under the false impression that you're a single human being living on a continent called North America with a nice bank account, and good things. You're actually the dreamer of the entire dream.

Wow didn't expect this. I completely agree, but then again "I" doesn't even exist. Plus reincarnation is not mandatory, you can always just get enlightened and liberate from reincarnation.
 
When you're having a good dream, do you worry about your next dream and say "oh shit I hope I don't end up having a nightmare tomorrow"? Probably not, because you don't know it's a dream. Now pretend this is all a dream and you're going to wake up at any time, so you're now lucid dreaming (because you know its a dream). Your dream character isn't going to experience tomorrow's dream, because your dream character doesn't exist - its an illusion.

There's no reason for you to worry about the next dream now since it's not going to be happening to the 'you' you think you are. It'll be happening to a completely different being.

Right now you're actually the entirety of the dream, but you're under the false impression that you're a single human being living on a continent called North America with a nice bank account, and good things. You're actually the dreamer of the entire dream.

Brain exploding. Boobie pics anyone?
 
When you're having a good dream, do you worry about your next dream and say "oh shit I hope I don't end up having a nightmare tomorrow"? Probably not, because you don't know it's a dream. Now pretend this is all a dream and you're going to wake up at any time, so you're now lucid dreaming (because you know its a dream). Your dream character isn't going to experience tomorrow's dream, because your dream character doesn't exist - its an illusion.

There's no reason for you to worry about the next dream now since it's not going to be happening to the 'you' you think you are. It'll be happening to a completely different being.

Right now you're actually the entirety of the dream, but you're under the false impression that you're a single human being living on a continent called North America with a nice bank account, and good things. You're actually the dreamer of the entire dream.

Just how many times DID you watch the Matrix Trilogy, mate... ?
 
My brain can handle this -

djshorty you're making moot points. It's entirely possible to dream about wondering if you're in a dream and worrying about what you're going to dream about next, but if life really is a dream it's a damn long one and you better hope that your next dream ain't a nightmare, at which point the difference between reincarnation and a very long dream doesn't make a difference.

Yo dawg..
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This may have been posted on here before:

You were on your way home when you died.
It was a car accident. Nothing particularly remarkable, but fatal nonetheless. You left behind a wife and two children. It was a painless death. The EMTs tried their best to save you, but to no avail. Your body was so utterly shattered you were better off, trust me.
And that’s when you met me.
“What… what happened?” You asked. “Where am I?”
“You died,” I said, matter-of-factly. No point in mincing words.
“There was a… a truck and it was skidding…”
“Yup,” I said.
“I… I died?”
“Yup. But don’t feel bad about it. Everyone dies,” I said.
You looked around. There was nothingness. Just you and me. “What is this place?” You asked. “Is this the afterlife?”
“More or less,” I said.
“Are you god?” You asked.
“Yup,” I replied. “I’m God.”
“My kids… my wife,” you said.
“What about them?”
“Will they be all right?”
“That’s what I like to see,” I said. “You just died and your main concern is for your family. That’s good stuff right there.”
You looked at me with fascination. To you, I didn’t look like God. I just looked like some man. Or possibly a woman. Some vague authority figure, maybe. More of a grammar school teacher than the almighty.
“Don’t worry,” I said. “They’ll be fine. Your kids will remember you as perfect in every way. They didn’t have time to grow contempt for you. Your wife will cry on the outside, but will be secretly relieved. To be fair, your marriage was falling apart. If it’s any consolation, she’ll feel very guilty for feeling relieved.”
“Oh,” you said. “So what happens now? Do I go to heaven or hell or something?”
“Neither,” I said. “You’ll be reincarnated.”
“Ah,” you said. “So the Hindus were right,”
“All religions are right in their own way,” I said. “Walk with me.”
You followed along as we strode through the void. “Where are we going?”
“Nowhere in particular,” I said. “It’s just nice to walk while we talk.”
“So what’s the point, then?” You asked. “When I get reborn, I’ll just be a blank slate, right? A baby. So all my experiences and everything I did in this life won’t matter.”
“Not so!” I said. “You have within you all the knowledge and experiences of all your past lives. You just don’t remember them right now.”
I stopped walking and took you by the shoulders. “Your soul is more magnificent, beautiful, and gigantic than you can possibly imagine. A human mind can only contain a tiny fraction of what you are. It’s like sticking your finger in a glass of water to see if it’s hot or cold. You put a tiny part of yourself into the vessel, and when you bring it back out, you’ve gained all the experiences it had.
“You’ve been in a human for the last 48 years, so you haven’t stretched out yet and felt the rest of your immense consciousness. If we hung out here for long enough, you’d start remembering everything. But there’s no point to doing that between each life.”
“How many times have I been reincarnated, then?”
“Oh lots. Lots and lots. An in to lots of different lives.” I said. “This time around, you’ll be a Chinese peasant girl in 540 AD.”
“Wait, what?” You stammered. “You’re sending me back in time?”
“Well, I guess technically. Time, as you know it, only exists in your universe. Things are different where I come from.”
“Where you come from?” You said.
“Oh sure,” I explained “I come from somewhere. Somewhere else. And there are others like me. I know you’ll want to know what it’s like there, but honestly you wouldn’t understand.”
“Oh,” you said, a little let down. “But wait. If I get reincarnated to other places in time, I could have interacted with myself at some point.”
“Sure. Happens all the time. And with both lives only aware of their own lifespan you don’t even know it’s happening.”
“So what’s the point of it all?”
“Seriously?” I asked. “Seriously? You’re asking me for the meaning of life? Isn’t that a little stereotypical?”
“Well it’s a reasonable question,” you persisted.
I looked you in the eye. “The meaning of life, the reason I made this whole universe, is for you to mature.”
“You mean mankind? You want us to mature?”
“No, just you. I made this whole universe for you. With each new life you grow and mature and become a larger and greater intellect.”
“Just me? What about everyone else?”
“There is no one else,” I said. “In this universe, there’s just you and me.”
You stared blankly at me. “But all the people on earth…”
“All you. Different incarnations of you.”
“Wait. I’m everyone!?”
“Now you’re getting it,” I said, with a congratulatory slap on the back.
“I’m every human being who ever lived?”
“Or who will ever live, yes.”
“I’m Abraham Lincoln?”
“And you’re John Wilkes Booth, too,” I added.
“I’m Hitler?” You said, appalled.
“And you’re the millions he killed.”
“I’m Jesus?”
“And you’re everyone who followed him.”
You fell silent.
“Every time you victimized someone,” I said, “you were victimizing yourself. Every act of kindness you’ve done, you’ve done to yourself. Every happy and sad moment ever experienced by any human was, or will be, experienced by you.”
You thought for a long time.
“Why?” You asked me. “Why do all this?”
“Because someday, you will become like me. Because that’s what you are. You’re one of my kind. You’re my child.”
“Whoa,” you said, incredulous. “You mean I’m a god?”
“No. Not yet. You’re a fetus. You’re still growing. Once you’ve lived every human life throughout all time, you will have grown enough to be born.”
“So the whole universe,” you said, “it’s just…”
“An egg.” I answered. “Now it’s time for you to move on to your next life.”
And I sent you on your way.



The Egg
 
Mikesev that would actually be pretty cool if it were true. So you are me and I am you. Mind if I borrow few grand off ya? I'm talking to all of you here.
 
"Because you're already in the top, what, 1% of the global human population in terms of quality of life."

Failed first premise.