Recommened Merchant Services?

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I know most are you are affiliate junkies, but I'm sure there are some people that deal with e-commerce on a few different levels. I'm looking for a good, if not great, merchant and/or processing gateway to recommend to clients if they don't have anything set-up yet.

The two that seem the best to me are Credit Card Processing, Merchant Accounts, Accept Credit Cards and Payflow Pro (https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_payflow-pro-overview-outside).
If anyone else can tell me why those suck and have something better, holla for a dolla.
 


You could always call your bank and ask them what they offer.


Well, I'm talking primarily about online payments, so I doubt my sketchy bank will have anything good for us. I'm also looking for something that I can refer clients to, so I don't want to put them through the hassles of switching banks.
 
I am also interested in answers to Barman's original question. I have some proprietary eCommerce software with Payflow link integrated, but I am wondering if that is the best solution for my clients in the long run. Anyone else know of any decent Payment Gateways?
 
I have had a few different businesses with merchant accounts and they all stink. They nickle and dime you to death. $29.95 a month for this, $.20 a transaction, 2.95% of transactions, $20 per chargeback, minimum account activity or another charge etc.

Unless you have good personal credit, do not even try a standard merchant agreement, they do a pretty thorough back ground and credit check.

Depending on what you sell, many merchant accounts dont want your online business. Anything having to do with an online 'service' is going to get you charged a higher fee. Anything with ongoing monthly or quarterly subscriptions is going to hit you for more. Anything with casino or porn dont even bother. If you sound funny on the phone or have a dog barking in the background you are going to get charged more. The whole ordeal with trying to accept credit cards is a very shady business.

Paypal is pretty easy to set-up but the fees are pretty high. If you do any adwords at all, Google checkout might be a good option or even free. Never used them so no idea how difficult or easy it might be to get an account.

I just read about these guys in Forbes. They charge a much lower percentage but no idea how restrictive they are in getting set-up.

Just my $.02 but the internet is the perfect opportunity to really set up a dynamic third party currency. I know Beenz and others have tried it, but that does not mean it was not a good idea, just might have been a little a head of the game.

Matt Cutts made a really small blog post recently about Visa's 17% of total sales in this country and did some math, the industry is an oligopoly with no incentive to compete on price. Heck AMEX manages to charge even higher premiums than Visa.
 
We have always used 1shoppingcart.com. They have been around the block and aside from small problems we have yet to encounter some of the "planet killers" we have experienced using other services. They also have the affiliate backend built in wich is an absolute must for anyone selling product.
 
Wells Fargo is easy to deal with and easy to setup. You can do it all online and they usually have everything setup for you in a day or so. They will set you up with Authorize.net for the gateway as well.
 
I have had a few different businesses with merchant accounts and they all stink. They nickle and dime you to death. $29.95 a month for this, $.20 a transaction, 2.95% of transactions, $20 per chargeback, minimum account activity or another charge etc.

Unless you have good personal credit, do not even try a standard merchant agreement, they do a pretty thorough back ground and credit check.

Depending on what you sell, many merchant accounts dont want your online business. Anything having to do with an online 'service' is going to get you charged a higher fee. Anything with ongoing monthly or quarterly subscriptions is going to hit you for more. Anything with casino or porn dont even bother. If you sound funny on the phone or have a dog barking in the background you are going to get charged more. The whole ordeal with trying to accept credit cards is a very shady business.

Paypal is pretty easy to set-up but the fees are pretty high. If you do any adwords at all, Google checkout might be a good option or even free. Never used them so no idea how difficult or easy it might be to get an account.

I just read about these guys in Forbes. They charge a much lower percentage but no idea how restrictive they are in getting set-up.

Just my $.02 but the internet is the perfect opportunity to really set up a dynamic third party currency. I know Beenz and others have tried it, but that does not mean it was not a good idea, just might have been a little a head of the game.

Matt Cutts made a really small blog post recently about Visa's 17% of total sales in this country and did some math, the industry is an oligopoly with no incentive to compete on price. Heck AMEX manages to charge even higher premiums than Visa.

Good post, Diorex.

The reason that companies nickle and dime you to death is to get all the revenue they can out of the sale. People that do not take the time to learn interchange or discuss with a representative all the necessary information, which can take hours, then they'll never fully inderstand what rate they can get and how they go there.

Our company actually does all the backend processing for the Bill Me Later program but unless they've changed their requirements, a merchant must be around the $20M process mark to apply for the service.

If anyone has any questions about eCommerce, Gateways or processing shoot me a private message. I work for Chase Paymentech which is the largest direct processor of credit card transactions. We do all the processing for Paypal, Amazon, Google Checkout, etc, etc.
 
We used Cardservice for more than a year and they were terrible. They were not at all willing to work with a young company that was more successful than they thought we should be. They held completely crazy amounts of money each month (five figures). I swear they were trying to put us out of business.

We switched to Bank of America and they were AMAZING to us. Our account rep would come to the office just to talk and see how things were going, and they upped our amount we could process each month with little grief on our part. They genuinely wanted us to do well and were interested in supporting us to that end.

But don't get me started on chargebacks. Oy. I will never, ever do e-commerce again for that reason. Not until processors are just as interested as I am about protecting ourselves. No way, no how. I don't envy anyone processing credit cards online in any sort of volume. What a PITA.

That's my 2 cents... I am a bit grumpy about it, I guess. I just found the whole e-commerce thing to be FAR more difficult than it needed to be. I like content sites much better. :)

Laura
 
Actually, this is a very interesting thread. On an consumers end I think a possitive user experience is also important. I found this merchant to be having an aceptional friendly processing form.

Can anybody tell me which software/creditcard processing he is using?

https://order.doubleyourdating.com/
 
Was my comment deleted?
Holy shit it is back from the dead

Jokes aside, we have to approve posts from people under 10 posts who post links, it stops a LOT of spammers. Only solution is to post more I guess :)
 
Hehe okay, thnx for clearing that up.

I'm still waiting on comfirmation about what system they are using. I'm working with Directrack currently to set up a tracking system for our media buys and they are also looking into it.

One merchant I found to be interesting is this one:

Online Credit Card Processing Solutions - Accept credit cards online through MultiCards Internet Billing.

Also, they are based locally (netherlands) which is kinda interesting for me. Does anybody here have any experiences with these guys?
 
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