Real PBN Hosting That Will Take Us Out Of Shitty IPs

[bathunter]

I want to keep this thread focused on the topic of IP quality. Let's not make this about a million theories about why blog network sites are getting deindexed now more than ever- because I know everyone is eager to share their completely unproven expertise on knowing Google's exact algorithm.

One thing I have factually seen is that getting a PBN deindexed has almost EVERYTHING to do with the IP it is on.

For example, I had 8 sites on an SEO hosting service and every single one of them got deindexed- blatantly obvious that it was because of the hosting. Everyone has been saying that SEO hosting services are pure shit so obviously that is nothing new.

I hosted another 100 sites on cheap individual web hosts.

I have had about half of them deindexed, and HERE IS WHAT HAPPENS EVERY SINGLE TIME:

One site gets deindexed. Two weeks later, another site on that same host gets deindexed. A week later, the third site I had on that same host gets deindexed. (timespan made just for example- and I have 3 networks so these are not linking to the same money site- proving that they are concentrating their deindexing activity on certain IPs)

I had 3 sites each deindexed off all these cheap hosts- and none on the other cheap hosts I have. My point is it is a BLATANT pattern.

02HOSTING.COM
MEGAWORLDHOSTING.COM
STABLEPAGES.COM
HOBOHOST.COM
LEVELHOSTING.CA
BELTHOSTING.COM
blackcows.net
centralhosts.net
securedragon.net
tuguhost.com/weloveservers.net
webup247.biz
rshosting.com
hawkhost

It is really weird and there are certain hosts that do not seem to have gotten any PBN deindexing- for example Hostgator is one I have confimed and several other people have as well.

Anyways, let's talk on this thread about what actually matters, which is how the hell do we get hosts that are not shitty IPs? I'd be willing to shell out $20/month per PBN site host- but it seems that simply spending more money on a host does not guarantee anything.

DEDICATED IP ON REGULAR CHEAP SHARED HOSTING ACCOUNT

On most of these cheap shared hosts you can get a dedicated IP for an additional $3/month. But it is only seperate from their regular shared hosting account(with all the other spammy sites) by the D-Class. So if their shared hosting account is xxx.xx.xxx.5 your dedicated IP is just xxx.xx.xxx.6. Do you guys think that will make a difference?

DEDICATED SERVER

Wholesaleinternet has a dedicated server for $20/month. I don't know shit about dedicated servers or anything about how hosting blocks are sold off to other people- but it seems that people are buying these and reselling them to a bunch of other spammy site hosters? Will the server I order be distinctly different from the next spammy guy over by more than a D class?

https://www.wholesaleinternet.net/dedicated/

So how do we for sure go up in quality(far away from neighboring spam sites) when choosing hosting? Let's say we have $20 to spend per host/month or even more- is it even possible?

 

[Graints]

i've had (legit, and completely non spammy) sites on a couple of those hosts, and had no problems with google.

i'd stay away from any host that says its a 'seo host'. (at least a couple of those one your list don't advertise themselves as that)

 

[timos18]

Maybe because many seo's use these hosts and google has found a pattern.
Think long term seo and buy 4-5$/m hosting,pay yearly and you're done

 

[secretagentdad]

If a short cut, or budget option option exists. SEO's will beat it to death until it becomes such a major issue that it gets wackamoled down.

That's just the nature of life.

There's a million and one tricks for generating ips, name servers, good neighborhoods blah blah blah blah blah.

The less legwork and cost they involve the sooner they die.

You would think that people would just grow up and start investing in building and maintaining digital infrastructure.

But then you get human nature, human nature wants a short cut, or an easy way.

When you combine that with the tunnel vision most online hustlers get for the same old overly competitive, over scrutinized, legwork free drop shipping / affiliate / lead gen verticals you get the perfect storm for flavor of the month links (or ip sources) followed by hammer falling.

In the end everybody does a lot of work, nobody really makes anything of value, and the internet is a slightly shittier spammier place.

Quit looking for short cuts.
Invest in real assets.
Instead of asking where to find more cheap hosts to beat to death, you'll be asking where you can find a beefier server to deal with all your traffic or improve your user experience.

 

[Pheasant]

It's always lol-worthy when SEO's talk about "blatant patterns" as if their tiny sample sizes of anecdotes mean anything at all.

 

[richcookies]

No one knows what Google is up to. They seem to be everywhere, and nowhere at the same time.

From sources, the quickest way they find your blog network sites falls within one of the following. Bear in mind computers are programmed to follow certain patterns.

1 - You create links on your blog network and now you're outranking your competitors. The guy has no more money for milk, and he wants to blame someone, so he takes a look at your site, and he discovers some blog links. He immediately files the "SNITCH NOTICE" to Google. Google gets the information, and files it away until certain known patterns develop.

2 - Meanwhile you site is now riding high in the search engine, and now you think you're unto some unique ranking faster method. You crank up your link building, targeting more profitable keywords. Mind you, by now your website is now been observed by the super computer. Every link you build is now visited, to see if a pattern develops. Computers do not sleep, neither do they take a break. They are capable of multi tasking like crazy.

3. The real problems arises if your blog network is linking to other websites in a suspicious manner. Websites about SEO linking to 5, 10, 15 other websites with myriads of topics. If the articles are nothing but self serving words of about 200 to 300, the computer now sees a pattern.

4. As your traffic increases, your scrutiny increases especially if a report has been filed against your website. Mind you, if you have multiple backlink reports against your site from several people, the scrutiny goes way up. No human intervention, just computer intervention. They're created to assign specific task to each other.

There are many other ways, but some are not appropriate for public consumption, as Google is well known for "seeding" spies in SEO forums.

In a nutshell, Blame the "Bitchy" webmasters that cannot play the game, but quickly run to Google police, once outranked.

By the way, if you're blasting your created links with indexing services, you're asking for multiple trouble. Using indexing services on your links, is just one way of letting Google know the full road map of your backlinks. Yes, your backlinks would be indexed, but the created patterns would also be filed away for future reference by the super computer.

As far as hosting issues goes, it's not a problem, unless your website meets some of the above suspicious criteria. Contrary to what some might think, hosting is not the problem, the way your network is setup and operated, is the main problem.

Webmaster are now fighting each other, while Google is laughing all the way to the bank. The setup by Matts Cutts is brilliant indeed, you keep everyone on the edge, and let them destroy each other. Just like shit you get from "THE ART OF WAR". I respect deadly strategy, when I see one. This company is now a very vicious animal, that pretends he loves you, while sticking a long knife into your financial soul, when annoyed by the slightest mistake on your part.

If webmasters stop feeding Google data, they'll not know as much, which will be better for everyone. But the SEO world is now a jungle, and I hope you don't get Devoured by the LION we all help create, or the multiple "snakes" called COMPETITORS.