PPC Arbitrage - Standard Deviation

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I'm just curious if there is anyone out that that uses standard deviation when considering a niche keyword/s and if you do, do you have a target number that the standard deviation has to meet before you consider it?
 


i read about that on greywolfs blog - I have not tried it - I am too lazy and prefer trail and error - that is stupid but oh-well
 
engaged said:
dude, just make sites and see what works.
Working on it. ;)

Granted I'm just starting out but I'm slowing getting my process, system, routine or whatever you want to call it down and I'm researching every possible way I can think of that would help me narrow a niche down in the shortest amount of time possible so I don't have to go through and pick niche, build, wait & see method to find out that it wasn't worth it.

Considering my plans for sites onces they hit a certain % of profits are to double said number of sites in hand I want a fairly quick process on elimating the bigger risks. (2 sites-4 sites-8 site, ect.)
 
God dammit, just make like 5 sites and go back and figure out why which ones work and which do not. Jeez. You can make 30 arbitrage-centric sites in a day.
 
engaged said:
God dammit, just make like 5 sites and go back and figure out why which ones work and which do not. Jeez. You can make 30 arbitrage-centric sites in a day.

You can make an unlimited amount using the same template, since with arbitrage, the goal is to make money from paid traffic and not free traffic, it doesn't matter what your site looks like, as long as you get those fuckers to click and make you money. It's by far one of the easiest concepts to make money around. Whether you use AdSense (beware of smartpricing) or YPN (beware of images without borders) it doesn't matter, because with both, you can make some really great money. The CTR is nuts too, 67% on lots of sites is the norm, with per click payouts going pretty damn high.

If you're really nervous about starting out, make one site for adsense and one site for YPN, on one very simple template, using the same niche, content, ad setup and traffic, and choose the one that does better for you. Or even better, keep them both, and continue on that road. Try and spend $50 per day, per site, and just keep monitoring. And by monitoring it I don't mean hitting refresh every 2 minutes, but just look at the campaign from the ppc end and from the revenue end and see what it does for 24 hours, or until your cash runs out from it.

And please don't use Adwords for traffic, because that would be a big mistake. Use 7search or Searchfeed and just "set it and forget it!".
 
It works people, just jump in. I am making 3:1 on my arbitrage site. 30%+ CTR.

One issue I have, is that I cannot use duplicate content on 7search according to their TOS. I dunno how much they check, but I'm not sure if it is worth trying anyway.
 
DruSam said:
It works people, just jump in. I am making 3:1 on my arbitrage site. 30%+ CTR.

One issue I have, is that I cannot use duplicate content on 7search according to their TOS. I dunno how much they check, but I'm not sure if it is worth trying anyway.

They are a 3rd tier search engine. Fuck what they say or think. You pay for ads, they can't afford to lose you.
 
Jon said:
They are a 3rd tier search engine. Fuck what they say or think. You pay for ads, they can't afford to lose you.

Great! I'm gonna exploit this mofo! :ak:
 
engaged said:
God dammit, just make like 5 sites and go back and figure out why which ones work and which do not. Jeez. You can make 30 arbitrage-centric sites in a day.
Straight foward, simplisitc, no bull shit advice.

That's why I like Wiked Fire.

:)

I didn't know that high of a CTR was the norm and it's encouraging to keep hearing of peole with a 30%+ CTR let alone a 67%. I've put my first target goal at 20% CTR and plan on adjusting my projections accordingly once I have everything going.

Trust me I'm just going to jump in like you have all suggested and already have a list full of niches that I will have sites for, starting at number one.

The reason I was inquiring on standard deviation wasn't for starting out purposes. It's because I might add it to my choosing procedure later on down the road. I was just curious if anyone else uses it and if they did, do they have a minimum deviation that a niche/keyword/s has to meet before they will try it out.
 
I have 100% CTR on one of my arbitrage sites. Sometimes I get as high as 300%. I attribute this mainly to some very good ads that are being displayed, though. I hit refresh a few times a day because I don't like to draw attention to my account.
 
Thanks for your reply.

Is your domain somewhat related to the directories and niches you're promoting? Or is it something completely unrelated? (e.g. example.com/poker as opposed to thepokersite.com/poker)
 
Yes I use a domain that is broadly related, then within the directory I get more specific and while I have yet to have to use it, jon said in the latest lightning round that he also uses subdirectories within the directory.
 
sknydave said:
Yes I use a domain that is broadly related, then within the directory I get more specific and while I have yet to have to use it, jon said in the latest lightning round that he also uses subdirectories within the directory.

Same here...if you really wanna crank out some sites setting up a domain each time is a head fuck
 
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