Oh Tsk Tsk. It's a loss, deal with it.

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So isn't this kind of illegal to do? Let me hear your opinions. There was a particular campaign that I brought in loads of legitimate leads for, none really converted. However. I can't help that none converted for that particular campaign. It's beyond my control what the leads I bring in, do. But. According to the Ad Network and the particular advertiser I get paid for the "lead", not "You get paid for the leads if we make sales from the leads you bring in.". In business, there is always a risk of suffering a loss, however. That is the contractual agreement that was made between you and the individual company that if you bring in leads, you should get paid. In fact, the only thing that the company should really be able to do is stop doing business with you but is still required to legally pay you what you earned.

Thoughts? Does every company try to swindle you like that? I honestly hope not, that is incredibly ridiculous if so and very much illegal(On my opinion.) It's like investing money without the risk of actually losing any. That is not how business works.
 


Well, the leads have been "confirmed" but because the leads didn't lead to any potential sales they're considering just reversing them all so that the given company doesn't have to pay out anything. So I brought in a lot of potential customers for them, and even some people that probably stuck with the site for the free service that might lead to a potential customer but they're already debating on whether to reverse leads or not. There is no for sure yet, but even debating it in the first place is kind of stupid.

In the process of chatting with a few people, to get their "exact reasoning" but it all really leads up to that. They don't want to pay because they suffered a loss because the leads didn't turn out to become sales.
 
Are you dealing directly with an advertiser, ad network, single person/company, etc? And do you have a copy of said guidelines?

If a respectable ad network such as Copeac or Ads 4 Dough had an advertiser that refused to pay up, and their conditions were followed, they'd still pay their affiliates.
 
An AD network, which I can't really mention here for various reasons. But the AD Network requires you to sign seperate contracts/TOS's with the individual companies you want to deal with. Yeah, there are at least two different places I can get them.

Lol, maybe I should look into those AD Networks. I didn't suffer much of a loss, really. I was mainly just testing the waters of Affiliate Marketing before using them seriously for any solid campaign to know if I could trust them or not. I pretty much got my answer for this one, aha.
 
you are fucked.. deal with it and move on. if your quality sucks, they don't want you. period. it's simply just a part of lead generation that you should always consider before developing any campaign. we can argue for days about whether or not they should have paid, but the fact of the matter is that it doesn't matter because they clearly don't want your traffic
 
Well since you won't tell us who so that they can step up and answer for it (sometimes they do on here), then I guess can just answer your original question.

Assuming everything you say is accurate regarding the conditions of the leads, its not illegal in the criminal sense, but more so in the breach-of-contract sense, and would have to be pursued in civil court.
 
sgtryan said:
you are fucked.. deal with it and move on. if your quality sucks, they don't want you. period. it's simply just a part of lead generation that you should always consider before developing any campaign. we can argue for days about whether or not they should have paid, but the fact of the matter is that it doesn't matter because they clearly don't want your traffic
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Haha, yeah. That pretty much is what i'm going to do(and have been planning to do for a while.). Well, I wouldn't say the "quality" sucks, as the leads were very direct. Apparently the product/service I was promoting just wasn't appealing enough for them to make a purchase. I get that, but they're still responsible to pay me despite the fact that the given company in question didn't make a profit out of it. I do see them being able to simply get rid of me, yes. However. No matter the case they are still responsible for paying me the money because I brought them in official leads. As I said earlier, it's beyond my control whether any of the leads actually do anything.

kblessinggr said:
Well since you won't tell us who so that they can step up and answer for it (sometimes they do on here), then I guess can just answer your original question.

Assuming everything you say is accurate regarding the conditions of the leads, its not illegal in the criminal sense, but more so in the breach-of-contract sense, and would have to be pursued in civil court.
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Yeah, that's kind of what I was thinking. Not sure it's really worth the hassle though to go that far after everything is all said and done. Lol. Thanks for the input. I'm most likely just going to move on to a more reliable Ad Network and hope that this one pays me at least something, hahaha.

If you have more suggestions for "respectable" ad networks feel free to PM me letting me know them, thanks.
 
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