Neverblue issue..

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I started pushing some traffic through neverblue for some campaigns, after speaking with my AM about possibly changing my payment method from cheque, to PayPal. As i live in Australia, international cheques take a long time not only be be received by mail, but also then to be cleared. Not to mention the annoying fees to convert the cheque to AUD.

So anyway, I was told after starting with neverblue, that once I've received my first payment via cheque, I would be able to apply to receive payment via paypal.

Note: I started pushing sales through neverblue in early December.

Today, being the 7th of Feb - I received a reply from my AM saying that my application for paypal payments hasn't been approved. This wasn't a HUGE surprise to me, due to the fact in the past 2 weeks I've stopped pushing traffic through neverblue due to being on holidays and also the fact that this process takes over 3 months to get paid.

As i said, this isn't what surprised me. What surprised me is their reasoning behind this...

Hi Jake,

I submitted your paypal request to the Compliance Department for review, and unfortunately the outcome wasn’t so good.

They won’t be switching your payment method to paypal just yet, and the audit of your account turned up a few flags. Here are the comments:

It appears that he is emailing the paid search creative (*****) for offer **** - repeatedly which is a big no-no as users do not get the option to unsubscribe form the offer is they so choose. That is the whole point of having pre-approved email creatives as they have that option built into them and as per CANSPAM requirements, if you email, you gotta have unsub link and company mailing address in the creative, or its SPAM

Numerous click referrals show that he is using the IsoHunt torrent tool (James Bond - Casino Royale - by Ian Fleming - BBC Radio Audiobook - cheops | james bond audiobook | isoHunt - the BitTorrent and P2P search engine) to generate traffic on the same offer. He is misleading users to think the offer is for a movie/song/software download when it is actually not.


These two issues are serious and you can not use either method to generate traffic for any of our offers. Please confirm that you will stop these ASAP, otherwise your account will not be able to remain open.

Thank you,
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This is an absolute mind bender for myself, as the only way I have pushed traffic to neverblue's links is via Google adwords. This makes me wonder if the neverblue stats are actually legit..

I have noticed that the tracking neverblue supply, just doesn't seem to add up. Obviously I have no way of proving this, so I've normally just left the idea out of my head. But now I'm curious.

Has anyone else had issues like this before? If so - Did they happen to be with neverblue?

Any and all feedback or advice would be greatly appreciated!
 


Im in australia and i get bank wires every 2 weeks from neverblue... i never received any cheques i was on bank wires from day 1, none of this paypal shit.... i wouldn't trust them with my revenue money.
 
they may have possibly confuse you with a different affiliate. but I highly doubt that and I'm pretty confident that never blue is accurate with their reports. First off cloak your links if you plan to do shady shit 2nd stop bitching because your in the wrong because I'm about 99% sure they didn't just pop out all that information about your traffic out there ass and 3rd cloak your links


did I mention you should really consider cloaking your links
 
SkipStaa said:
they may have possibly confuse you with a different affiliate. but I highly doubt that and I'm pretty confident that never blue is accurate with their reports. First off cloak your links if you plan to do shady shit 2nd stop bitching because your in the wrong because I'm about 99% sure they didn't just pop out all that information about your traffic out there ass and 3rd cloak your links


did I mention you should really consider cloaking your links
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the ONLY way i have been advertising is via google adwords. Not once have i done an email campaign or advertised on torrent networks (unless the torrent sites are using google ads i'm guessing).

I don't have an email database to use..

Do you honestly think, I would do something shady then immediately jump on wickedfire asking for advice?
 
Hi Jake, I live in another country (in the Caribbean) and something similar happened to me with another network. It was from cheque to bank wires though.

I posted a thread about that... it's in the aff. marketing section.
 
knowledge26 said:
Hi Jake, I live in another country (in the Caribbean) and something similar happened to me with another network. It was from cheque to bank wires though.

I posted a thread about that... it's in the aff. marketing section.
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I saw, thanks.. But i'm still unsure what to do :(

I really like using neverblue and i did hope I could trust them with money, But this seems so out of the ordinary...

I don't know how the hell they got spam emails and torrent sites.. On top of that, my Aff Manager isn't very responsive at the best of times
 
there are two text adsense spots on the page...

that is strange they accuse you of emailing if you're not though
 
I've only done a small amount of $$ through neverblue, but they switched me to paypal when I asked after a few cheques. Took a few requests before they responded, but they did it in the end.
 
Just spoke to Michelle from Neverblue, they have re-looked into the issue and it seems that the tracking system picked up my link from an inbox, which appears to be due to a sponsored link. I think that this could be from maybe gmail's sponsored links on the right hand side?

As for the isohunt referral, I can't see any text ads, but somone earlier in this thread has said adsense text links appear for them, which could be the cause.

So, after my second enquiry and a bit of stressing out, i'm back over to paypal, and soon hopefully I can apply for wire transfer :)
 
I cant understand why people keep bitching about this kind of crap when living abroad.

This is the first thing you should question yourself before doing biz with a company based on another country: How the fuck am I going to get paid?!

So before posting shit about a company because it doesnt pay you on fucking paypal (which sucks anyways), you should go to an online bank (e.g. eTrade.com), open a brokerage account and get paid right there in the US by Wire, in the case of check instead of converting them to AUD or fucking Zimbabwean Dollars you get the check on the mail, you add a deposit slip and forward them to the bank in the US, the bank gets the check and it gets deposited to your account.
Banks like eTrade will send you a debit visa card so you can widthraw money on any ATM without paying any fees.

After that (or while) you get a fucking Skype US number so the companies can contact you locally...

I remember Problogger bitching about this, because it took too long to get his Amazon checks. It's actually your fault and your lack of planning.

Isohunt FTW!!!!
 
Seoholic said:
I cant understand why people keep bitching about this kind of crap when living abroad.

This is the first thing you should question yourself before doing biz with a company based on another country: How the fuck am I going to get paid?!

So before posting shit about a company because it doesnt pay you on fucking paypal (which sucks anyways), you should go to an online bank (e.g. eTrade.com), open a brokerage account and get paid right there in the US by Wire, in the case of check instead of converting them to AUD or fucking Zimbabwean Dollars you get the check on the mail, you add a deposit slip and forward them to the bank in the US, the bank gets the check and it gets deposited to your account.
Banks like eTrade will send you a debit visa card so you can widthraw money on any ATM without paying any fees.

After that (or while) you get a fucking Skype US number so the companies can contact you locally...

I remember Problogger bitching about this, because it took too long to get his Amazon checks. It's actually your fault and your lack of planning.

Isohunt FTW!!!!
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Q.F.T.
 
Seoholic said:
I cant understand why people keep bitching about this kind of crap when living abroad.

This is the first thing you should question yourself before doing biz with a company based on another country: How the fuck am I going to get paid?!

So before posting shit about a company because it doesnt pay you on fucking paypal (which sucks anyways), you should go to an online bank (e.g. eTrade.com), open a brokerage account and get paid right there in the US by Wire, in the case of check instead of converting them to AUD or fucking Zimbabwean Dollars you get the check on the mail, you add a deposit slip and forward them to the bank in the US, the bank gets the check and it gets deposited to your account.
Banks like eTrade will send you a debit visa card so you can widthraw money on any ATM without paying any fees.

After that (or while) you get a fucking Skype US number so the companies can contact you locally...

I remember Problogger bitching about this, because it took too long to get his Amazon checks. It's actually your fault and your lack of planning.

Isohunt FTW!!!!
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If you actually read my post, You would see that not being able to change my payment method wasn't the problem at hand. I would get my money regardless.. The problem at hand was the fact i got denied changing my payment method to ANYTHING else apart from cheque because they apparently thought i was using email and isohunt.


READING FTW!!!
 
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As i live in Australia, international cheques take a long time not only be be received by mail, but also then to be cleared. Not to mention the annoying fees to convert the cheque to AUD.
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Any and all feedback or advice would be greatly appreciated!
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but....

You would see that not being able to change my payment method wasn't the problem at hand.
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The problem at hand was the fact i got denied changing my payment method to ANYTHING
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DP FTW !!!!
 
I would talk to your AM and offer to submit screenshots of your adwords campaigns, LPs, search terms which turn up your ad, etc. to get this cleared up.
 
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