Need help on Competition. No Bullshit!

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Whyyo

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Before I ask my question let me remind you that this is the "Newbie Questions" Section so expect some newbie shit... Please try your hardest not to troll and and dick roll like a bunch of wanna-be balling faggots in here, and some douches that ARE balling, but don't want to help out anyone like if they never asked any questions in their life... Anyways

Don't mean to bother you guys from banking in the monies but I'm having a bit of trouble.. I found a couple good keywords but... I keep getting confused on how to analyze competition... ALSO i want to do it manually before i get a tool like: serpIQ, semrush, market samurai etc.. Just using google.

so who exactly would be my competitors in google..? would they be the first 10-20 results when i put the keyword with parentheses..?

At the bottom I have a few Examples of what I do, please tell me if I'm Right and what Example is what shows your/my competition.. Or if I'm wrong, can you show me an example please and thanks..

Ex:1 "keyword"
Ex:2 allintitle:kewword
Ex:3 allinurl:keyword
Ex:4 intitle:"keyword" inurl:"keyword" both together.?

Obviously I know after i see the top 10-20 Check out the websites, backlinks, PR, etc.. just need to find my comp first..

Again please try to keep the Fagitration shit going on around here, out of this thread. This is a serious question so if your gonna troll don't post shit please. Thanks
 


I'm not a pro at this but I'll tell you what I've learned and you can do the rest.

Your competition is everyone in the top 3 of the search results - more specifically, the guy in number 1.

He's getting roughly 55% of the clicks and that's where you want to be. So don't worry about everyone else and just focus on that.

In terms of assessing the competition, what I highly recommend you do is sign up for serpIQ. I know you want to do it manually first but what I recommend you do is sign up, use their free trial, see the kind of factors that they use to measure competition, and then go through and manually asses them yourself. There's FAR more elements you can assess competition on than I could mention here.

Once you've done that, sign up for the SEOMoz free trail and check out the backlink profile of the sites in the top 3. Check the PR of the links, the Moztrust, Mozrank, achortexts, etc... ahrefs.com has a great breakdown of anchor text ratio that you can use. Once you've seen that, then decide if you can match and better that link profile.
 
looked on serpIQ and got this... How accurate is this? because i looked on google with

"Keyword" and Yahoo questions and eHow were on the first page..

intitle:"keyword" inurl:"keyword" got eHow and Healthtap anyone know is healthtap is hard to beat.?

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Idk why its not showing the image but serpIQ gave it 36 Low competition search volume:720 cpc: $3.11
 
Good work. Now have a look at the backlink profile. How many high PR links do they have? Is that the kind of link profile you could match or beat?
 
dude idk this is my first site i would put up.. does its sound like something beatable? and how can i check the pr links? i have seaquake for firefox?
 
IceToEskimos is running a good service that analyzes competition for keywords. You could try a package from him at first...and then you will know why types of things to look for when doing competitive analysis.

I use a combination of Ultimate Niche Finder, SerpIQ, and my own brain when determining the competition/what needs to be done to rank.
 
StackCash said:
IceToEskimos is running a good service that analyzes competition for keywords. You could try a package from him at first...and then you will know why types of things to look for when doing competitive analysis.

I use a combination of Ultimate Niche Finder, SerpIQ, and my own brain when determining the competition/what needs to be done to rank.
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Gracias :cool:
 
The best tool to use to check out your competition is your brain. Dont get to bogged down worrying about your competition at this stage. If you know this is the niche you want to attack all you need to worry about at this point is. Is your site live? Is it full of quality content? If either of these questions is no, then you should be spending your time worrying about those 2 items first.

If your still in the research phase and are not committed to jumping into the niche, then do some research. Forget getting to bogged down with all these tools just yet. Check Google Keyword tool for your Keywords and plug them into the big G. Visit each site on the first page and see whats going on. Are they competitors, or maybe just Q&A posts? When you find an actual competitor, study their site. Do you think you can do it better? If not forget it and move to another niche.

Bottom line is spend an hour or 2 physically looking around the niche and see how you feel. Use a little common sense and get something going ASAP
 
Because of your inexperience you won't know the meaningful competition level until you actually build and publish a site. Sites like SerpIQ help - a lot - but you still need to know how to interpret & use the information.

You need to go out and cut your teeth. Just don't do anything you can't un-do, like build shitty links and get penalized.
 
omgyams said:
Because of your inexperience you won't know the meaningful competition level until you actually build and publish a site. Sites like SerpIQ help - a lot - but you still need to know how to interpret & use the information.

You need to go out and cut your teeth. Just don't do anything you can't un-do, like build shitty links and get penalized.
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^^^
This
 
omgyams said:
Because of your inexperience you won't know the meaningful competition level until you actually build and publish a site. Sites like SerpIQ help - a lot - but you still need to know how to interpret & use the information.

You need to go out and cut your teeth. Just don't do anything you can't un-do, like build shitty links and get penalized.
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I very much agree with this (and yeah, I'm the serpIQ guy). I don't recommend serpIQ for barebones beginners, the point of the tool is to automate a process you already understand because there's no value in collecting all the data manually once you understand where it all comes from and what it all means.

That all being said, when we launch the new version, there will be a fully interactive tour that will walk you through the entire report and give you some background on what each thing is and what it means. It won't replace a full tutorial, but it might help ya bit.

Plus we're planning on doing some tutorial style videos, like "how to find new profitable keywords to target" or "how to pitch a client with a report"
 
That's pretty much it.

Your searches were correct, also look at the Adwords competition, and take a look at the 'keyword difficulty'. There are tools available.
 
Louey37 said:
Your competition is everyone in the top 3 of the search results - more specifically, the guy in number 1.
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This.

omgyams said:
Because of your inexperience you won't know the meaningful competition level until you actually build and publish a site. Sites like SerpIQ help - a lot - but you still need to know how to interpret & use the information.

You need to go out and cut your teeth. Just don't do anything you can't un-do, like build shitty links and get penalized.
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This.

dchuk said:
the point of the tool is to automate a process you already understand because there's no value in collecting all the data manually once you understand where it all comes from and what it all means.
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And this.


If you're just starting out, I'd concentrate on the top 3 guys.

Start looking at their backlink profiles at Ahrefs Site Explorer & Keyword Tool

Doing that, alone, will give you some great insight on what it takes to acquire those 3 spots.

Take the top 3 guys, all else being equal (site age, keywords in domain, on-page SEO, intra-linking, etc) it ALL comes down to the backlinking profile. Where they're coming from, the diversity in the anchor text, relevant content pages.

Bear in mind that when you're viewing direct backlinks that they may, in fact, be a part of a pyramid type backlink build in which they have 100 links pointing to Site A and Site A is linking to Main Site.

There's a ton of backlinking strategies and theory posted around this forum. But, I'm not a big Google guy, and there have been quite a few updates over the last 1-2 years, so I'm not sure how effective those strategies are anymore.
 
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