MLM lifetime revenue share

Moxxy

Moxxy

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further to my cookie stuffing post... The site I'm building provides a service to businesses, revenue is linked to additional revenue generated for the customer so there's significant potential for a long term revenue stream from each sign up.

I'm not really an AM so I'm asking to get your point of view on this. I'm thinking of an MLM affiliate program. e.g. 1st level referals take 30% of customer generated revenues for the lifetime of the customer. 2nd level 10%, 3rd level 3%... etc... I can probably divert 40-50% of revenues to affiliate payments.

The MLM side of it probably isn't essential but I'm wondering if it's attractive to AMs? I could just drop it and have a higher % lvl 1 payout.

More importantly though, is a program that provides a lifetime revenue share but no upfront payment attractive to aff marketers? There's no upfront payment because the customer doesn't pay a joining fee. If upfront payment was an essential part of the mix would a tiered system be viable from the marketers point of view? e.g. free, premium, gold level membership at say $0, $40, $80. Customer has the option of taking the free membership but the AM can push the premium membership (even using a signup page that doesn't mention the free membership option).
 


It never ceases to amaze me that people still participate in MLM in this day and age. Is there any better example of the saying, "A fool and his money are soon parted" than MLM scams? None that I can think of.
 
ok so I should I take that to mean that affiliates aren't interested in driving other affiliates to an offer? Maybe I shouldn't have used the term MLM... The idea only occurred to me because I've seen ad networks that offer a portion of affiliate revenues for referrals. That looks to me exactly like MLM except that it's cutoff at one level (which is another option). That was the point, to give affiliates an incentive to cross promote.

As I said that side of it isn't really essential so I will drop if it's a disincentive to affiliates. What I'm really curious about is whether lifetime revenue share is actually an incentive?

for the record, the site itself is nothing at all like 'sell my product to make money'... It's a genuine and useful service for completely unrelated client businesses that they only pay for if they get new revenues out of it.
 
To clarify I'm not suggesting any fee for joining as an affiliate (aka Ponzi). The point is to generate revenue from driving genuine users to use the site. You don't earn any revenue from a referred affiliate unless they start earning real commissions from genuine users.
 
I remember when I read my first ebook on how to make money online and it was a fucking mlm in disguise. I could have slang acai instead and make my own ebook. fml
 
wtf is this shit go away MLM isn't a real fucking business unless you're the company who starts it to abuse the others. If you'd looking to be that abuser we don't want your shit obviously
 
kingfish said:
wtf is this shit go away MLM isn't a real fucking business unless you're the company who starts it to abuse the others. If you'd looking to be that abuser we don't want your shit obviously
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Oh ffs! Try reading the post properly rather than having some visceral reaction when you see an acronym you don't like.

I know exactly why people hate MLM... I'm not a big fan myself, my mother got tits deep in it when I was a kid and you're dead right, most of them are a scam. But the reason they are a scam is because they're essentially ponzi schemes, the profits at the top come from new people in the pyramid paying a joining fee or buying stock that they'll probably never resell. Eliminate those two factors and you have a workable model.

So tell me, how exactly is it any different from an AM network offering a percentage of revenues generated by new affiliates you refer? The affilliate is paying a joining fee, they're not forced to by stock to participate. No one in the heirarchy makes any money unless the referee makes money. And they can only do that by moving the end product. The product I'm talking about is actually a useful and easy to market service. Not an ebook or a diet pill made of sugar or a promise of instant riches...

ok forget the entire concept of multi-level... Call it a referal fee which cuts of at the first level but gives you a lifetime share of all revenues generated by a customer and their referees....
 
Moxxy said:
Oh ffs! Try reading the post properly rather than having some visceral reaction when you see an acronym you don't like.

I know exactly why people hate MLM... I'm not a big fan myself, my mother got tits deep in it when I was a kid and you're dead right, most of them are a scam. But the reason they are a scam is because they're essentially ponzi schemes, the profits at the top come from new people in the pyramid paying a joining fee or buying stock that they'll probably never resell. Eliminate those two factors and you have a workable model.

So tell me, how exactly is it any different from an AM network offering a percentage of revenues generated by new affiliates you refer? The affilliate is paying a joining fee, they're not forced to by stock to participate. No one in the heirarchy makes any money unless the referee makes money. And they can only do that by moving the end product. The product I'm talking about is actually a useful and easy to market service. Not an ebook or a diet pill made of sugar or a promise of instant riches...

ok forget the entire concept of multi-level... Call it a referal fee which cuts of at the first level but gives you a lifetime share of all revenues generated by a customer and their referees....
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Too lazy to read this last post but, I think you should just change the post title. Most of the guys here, in their quest to acquire some berry monies, probably wasted some time on MLM (myself included). So just reading the word pisses them off enough to not bother reading anything else you say.
 
juntao65 said:
I think you should just change the post title.
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don't think I can edit post titles? but yeah I'm pretty sure no one's reading past MLM... otherwise they would have seen this part:

Moxxy said:
I could just drop it and have a higher % lvl 1 payout.
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I might start again with a post that only mentions the other bit that no one seems to have noticed (which is actually the more important part)
 
I'm not to discourage but I wouldn't touch anything that has MLM in it's name with a stick. Even the abbreviation makes me sick, I can't explain it.
But good luck
 
MLM shit. It reeks of scam.

Though, in affiliate terms what you're talking about is tier 1, tier 2 etc affiliate signups. Some private programs have this. Never used it though...
 
Octane said:
I'm not to discourage but I wouldn't touch anything that has MLM in it's name with a stick. Even the abbreviation makes me sick, I can't explain it.
But good luck
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MLM is not that bad come on.. AVON is MLM.. arbonne is MLM.. mary KAY is mlm... there are a lot of semi-legit MLMs.. it is a hell of a lot more legit than promoting some google cash or acai offer.
 
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