Man dies 15 min after being in cell with man he testified against

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Massie says investigators will present their findings to a district attorney who will decide if criminal charges will be filed.

IF criminal charges will be filed?

This is like saying "I didn't litter, I put my garbage inside a chip bag that was already on the ground."

Well I suppose it's a little worse than that.
 
IF criminal charges will be filed?

This is like saying "I didn't litter, I put my garbage inside a chip bag that was already on the ground."

Well I suppose it's a little worse than that.

I would assume that the charges being considered would be against the correctional officers involved.

It seems awfully coincidental that he was put into the very same cell as someone who he's undoubtedly got a "keep separate" on.

That is one of the first things we check whenever we move someone.

Iso cells are there for a reason. After a fight, use em.
 
That's what happens when you take a witness for the State and put them into general population. The only halfway safe place for him would be in segregation, the same place where they put all the ex-cops and child molesters.
 
I would assume that the charges being considered would be against the correctional officers involved.

It seems awfully coincidental that he was put into the very same cell as someone who he's undoubtedly got a "keep separate" on.

That is one of the first things we check whenever we move someone.

Iso cells are there for a reason. After a fight, use em.

Yeah, and wouldn't the guy be like "Woooah! You can't me in there with him!"
 
^ "We?" ^

Correctional officers.

You know, the guys who are responsible for keeping this kind of thing from happening.

I'd be very surprised if this guy didn't say something to the officers who put him in that cell in the first place.

I've had that happen to me before, where someone didn't check an inmate's restrictions and the inmate pointed out, "Yeah, you can't put me in there with him."

"Why not?"

"Dude shot me in the leg last year."
 
That's what happens when you take a witness for the State and put them into general population. The only halfway safe place for him would be in segregation, the same place where they put all the ex-cops and child molesters.

It really depends on the facility.

Some are run well by people who are concerned about security and safety. In those prisons and jails, there's a little bit of segregation for the people who are scared of their own shadow, but for the most part the guards can put the word out that if you even look at a PC wrong, you're going to go to the hole.

In others, the PCs run their area and will gang up on people who try to get at one of them.

In others, the PCs are scared shitless and hide in their rooms for 23 hours a day.
 
In some ways, it's kinda funny. In others, it's just so fucked up.
Still, I suppose it saves money in the end... I can see a lot more of these "slip ups" happening if the economic downturn starts to take a bite into correctional funding.

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jdomaha: Seriously, you ever considered selling chunks of your life to the guys that write Oz? You have some cool stories :)
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In some ways, it's kinda funny. In others, it's just so fucked up.
Still, I suppose it saves money in the end... I can see a lot more of these "slip ups" happening if the economic downturn starts to take a bite into correctional funding.

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jdomaha: Seriously, you ever considered selling chunks of your life to the guys that write Oz? You have some cool stories :)
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Dude I have some pretty fucked up stories. I've had one co-worker/friend who gave CPR two different times to inmates who had jumped off the top tier of the housing unit to try to kill themselves.

I've seen people who have ripped chunks of their own flesh out with their own teeth.

Right when I started, we had an officer who was escorting an inmate down the hall. The inmate, who was pissed off that he'd been fired from a mod porter position by that officer the day before, turned around in the middle of the hall and hit the officer in the side of the face. He then beat that officer nearly to death with his fists, breaking his eye socket and screwing up the officer's face so badly that his eye was hanging down his cheek by the time backup arrived.

Currently the general movement in corrections is to coddle the inmates. There's a big push towards getting ACA accreditation. This mostly involves paperwork and making sure the inmates get their food served within a certain temperature range. Making sure that the floors are clean enough to eat off of is considered more important than, say, keeping staff/inmate ratios at safe levels.

This will swing the other way in time, but until then we're all about customer service with a smile.
 
In some ways, it's kinda funny. In others, it's just so fucked up.
Still, I suppose it saves money in the end... I can see a lot more of these "slip ups" happening if the economic downturn starts to take a bite into correctional funding.

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jdomaha: Seriously, you ever considered selling chunks of your life to the guys that write Oz? You have some cool stories :)
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Yeah he should make threads telling us stories. I watch Lockup all the time on MSNBC. I don't know why but I just can't get enough of that shit.
My favorite one is the guy in a Kentucky state prison who wanted his own cell so he chopped his celly up into little pieces while he slept. Now he has his own cell.
 
My favorite one is the guy in a Kentucky state prison who wanted his own cell so he chopped his celly up into little pieces while he slept. Now he has his own cell.


Oh yeah, I like this guy too.

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I didn't realize you were one dude, that's some pretty crazy shit.

You have no idea.

Jails are funny. They're totally different from prisons.

Jails get everyone. 18-year-olds who are picked up for public intox, 80 year olds who are in here for hitting their wives. The people in jail are usually tense, because it's a short term situation that has no definite end. They're waiting for trial, they're waiting for sentencing, they're waiting to see if the detectives have a chance to put a murder case together because they didn't pay their child support and their baby's momma gets pissed off when she doesn't get her monthly payout and might testify about what she knows.

We're locked in a mod with 62 inmates for 8 hours a day. Most of us, anyway. We have no weapons of any kind, and we're alone. I walk around the dayroom with inmates, I go into their rooms and make sure things are ok, I try to keep things relatively peaceful.

Prisons are cake. Prison inmates know their out date. They know if they misbehave that they'll be in the hole for months or years.

In our jail, if someone attacks an officer, they'll probably be on AC for 4 weeks, and then on AS for another 3 weeks or so if they're good after that. Then they get to go back into the housing unit where that officer works. Inmates are rarely charged. The administration does not support us. Our Lieutenants and Sergeants help us out a great deal, but there's a limit to what they can do.

Police officers constantly tell me that they wouldn't want to work a jail. They want to pick up the guy, rough him up a little bit and drop him off here, where they don't have to deal with him ever again.

Still, it's a lot of fun and I work with some great people.
 
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Really doesn't surprise me that this happened.

When I transferred from active duty to the reserves as a Master-at-Arms, the vast majority of reservists with that rate (job) were correctional officers as civilians.

They were the fattest, laziest, whiniest, and dumbest people I have ever come across. I wouldn't trust them to wash my car, let alone protect a facility against inmates (whether intelligent or not) with nothing else to do than sit around and plot ways to wreak havoc.

Correctional officers are no more qualified and certainly no more intelligent than the more oft-hated DMV officials and parking enforcement. All of them are just warts on the ass of society sucking off the teat of the state.
 
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