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I'm 100% new, so I want to make sure that I have EVERYTHING down pat. After reading around all night, it seems that every site has a somewhat similar plan:

1. Find a niche. As evidenced in the NO EXCUSES! threads, it can be pretty much anything. Eye-raping animated gifs for Myspace to Japanese cars. Something that people (eventually) get the credit card out for is preferable. Or at least semi-related to something that people buy online.

2. Buy your own domain, set up a server. I'm assuming that this is so you have more control over the system than by hosting on wordpress.com or whatever. And because myshittywebsite.com is better than myshittywebsite.wordpress.com, right?

3. Make your site. Wordpress framework + template + various doo-dads seems to be the setup of choice. Create a good layout, focusing on ad placement, making sure it's prevalant, but not shoving it down the visitor's throat and making him leave. Also don't make the site obviously just an ad vehicle.

4. Create content. Or steal content. Just get content. Content, content, content. Better content means better desirability for all concerned: you, visitors, advertisers, search engines.

5. Get people to advertise on your site. Usually connected to the niche. They pay you. Sometimes based on click-throughs, sometimes based on impressions (pageviews, right?), somtimes based on actual consumer sales (these would be affiliates, no?). Google's Adsense seems to be the most popular, it's fucking everywhere. Adjust advertisements and advertisers based on traffic.

6. Get traffic. Buy traffic sometimes. More traffic = higher revenue. Good traffic brings more revenue than regular traffic. But buying good traffic = higher expenses, so creating traffic (organic traffic?) is better than buying traffic. This leads us to....

7. SEO. Being the #1 result in Google/OtherSearchEngine in your niche brings more organic traffic. This can be achieved through placing links on forums and social networks, blog comments, and other websites (sometimes trading links with other sites in the same niche). High-quality sites (NYTimes, Wikipedia, etc.) are more desirable than your sister's Harry Potter fanfic site (What if Snape didn't kill Dumbledore?????). #1 is the goal, right?

8. Other traffic-generating methods. Social bookmarking, high-view blogs, old-media mentions, repeat visits.

9. ????? (Ctrl+C, Ctrl+V)

10. PROFIT!!!


Now, assuming I have this all correct (I'm sure I'm missing something), I have a few questions.

-Early in a site's life, it seems that the only way to get traffic is to buy it. Should every site aim to eventually have 100% non-bought traffic, or should this be only considered a realistic goal for a small portion of created sites? Should you aim for this at the start, or should it be only attempted if the conditions are right? In other words, do you ever stop buying traffic?

-What do the various doo-dads mention in step 3 do? Why do I need them?

-The blog format seems to be most popular, followed by newspage + content database. What are the advantages of this? What other forms are effective?

-In number 4 I said that better content is better. But it seems that many people are utilizing Wikipedia scrapers and the like, at least on some sites, so does content quality really matter that much? How does the plan change if you have 100% dynamite, completely original content?

-Do you see any errors in the steps above? Would you add anything? Would you change anything? Is there anything that I shouldn't be worrying about while just getting started?

(Sorry for the long-winded post. I'm just fascinated by this, and I want to know everything I can before starting.)
 


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Fuck Adcents... put some CPA offers up there, or write up some ads that are formatted like google ads if that gets better CTR. you don't always have to pay for traffic... You can write up some sketchy shit, post it to some place that will get offended by it and get an instant boost of traffic for a few days, maybe get it a bit viral if you piss enough people off... lol.
 
You've clearly done your homework and seem to have your shit together. Go for it.

Feel free to hit me up on aim if you run into anything.
 
Well, um, not everybody uses Wordpress. Wordpress blogs get hacked all the time. You have to update them about three to four times a year when they update the code, and often the code is buggy and it ruins your blog or your plugins don't work with the update. Spammers will spam the shit out of your blog - you can install plugins to minimize it but you will still have to manually delete or approve all comments. When you get a blog to the point where you are getting 1000 comments a day this totally sucks because you can't just say "I want to delete everything!" you have to delete each comment by hand which takes, like, a whole day.

I hate Wordpress.

I use regular html sites and I create a simple feed page for it (rss feed page.) This allows me to ping Pingomatic or Pingoat each time I update and also register my site as a "blog" everywhere because I have a feed. It's the best of both worlds. you sort of become a hybrid site, half blog, half normal site, and hacking and all that other crap isn't an issue.

You don't have to buy traffic. Get some backlinks to your site, post on some forums, submit a few articles to external articles directories, bookmark pages on your site, and you should be earning money within three to five days. If you're not, something is wrong.

So anyway, although everything youv'e described CAN work it's not the only method that is successful. Go for it, though - there are so many ways to make great money in this business, and if you stick with a plan and keep building sites you'll be on your way to grand things.

PS Don't pick a niche that people aren't spending a lot of money in. For me this means never try to sell anything to kids (teens dont' spend money they want everythign to be free online) and avoid a lot of "hippie" niches where people are trying to save the world but are poor as pig shit.

Dan
 
There's some half decent packages/systems out there on the web that do the hard yards for you (content, traffic and presell), all you need is your niche/or product - the rest, domain, hosting etc are taken care for you. I certainly do not have any intentions in designing my own website, I have absolutely no HTML coding ability, or spending money on separate domains and hostings etc so my intention is to buy one of these systems. I have come across a couple of decent, reputable systems that do just that: optimise content, traffic, presell and work on monetising your products/services. I think the most important thing at this stage is to look at the long run...do you want to build something that makes a few hundred dollars in a space of a couple of months and then flunks out later (then you have to start all over again) or a few thousand dollars on a steady monthly basis? I am definately for the latter.

Helen
 
dangregory said:
I use regular html sites and I create a simple feed page for it (rss feed page.) This allows me to ping Pingomatic or Pingoat each time I update and also register my site as a "blog" everywhere because I have a feed. It's the best of both worlds. you sort of become a hybrid site, half blog, half normal site, and hacking and all that other crap isn't an issue.

Interesting to get some Info about Wordpress. Not everybody agrees with you, but for me the "my-own-site-blog" idea seems to be the way to go. Just not sure how to get started. I have a domain name & host. Can anybody help?
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best response ever.


I'm like you clorox, I spend more time on research than action, just don't get paralized by decision. Jump in, you will learn by doing. And be ok with spending a little money (domains and hosting at the minimum), trying to do everything for free is possible but requires more time.
 
you missed something dude..., your USP ( Unique Selling Point ), if you want to success in this game, you must have something "special" about your site, you want to raise to the top don't you?? If your site just the same like others, i don't guarante if it will survive, especially when the competitor is high enough..

think of your USP first, what you will offer when someone visit your site :)

take care dude..
 
you missed something dude..., your USP ( Unique Selling Point ), if you want to success in this game, you must have something "special" about your site, you want to raise to the top don't you?? If your site just the same like others, i don't guarante if it will survive, especially when the competitor is high enough..

think of your USP first, what you will offer when someone visit your site :)

take care dude.. :music06:
 
clorox said:
I want to make sure that I have EVERYTHING down pat.
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#1 Mistake made by most new guys. You will learn by doing, there's no way around it. Instead of waiting for total understanding, just start making mistakes.
 
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