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Tensegrity

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So I would've posted in CorrectAd's original post about this...

http://www.wickedfire.com/affiliate-marketing/13286-20k-per-month-using-system.html

But it's closed.

So anyway, 2 years ago I worked a 9-5 at this company that scammed a lot of people (i mean hundreds to thousands of people). They still do it today, and there is plenty of people still pissed about not getting their money back.

They soon threw me to the curb and laid me off on 5 minutes notice as well as my girlfriend at the time, couldn't afford my rent anymore, had to move...big pity party. So needless to say i've had a grudge ever since.

So after discovering CorrectAd's method of writing a "guide" (yea it's an ebook actually pfft) to get even with these types of companies and selling them to the victims of said scamming company, i thought that I have a pretty good position being an ex-employee and having extra dirt on the company from working internally. So i'm really thinking about laying this shit down and seeing where it goes...

My biggest obstacles...

1. Not getting sued for perceived slander/libel on the site, or in the guide (they are a multi-million dollar company, and could probably take my ass down in a second)

2. Remaining 100% anonymous while building customer trust to convert sales.

3. Need to be able to put the company's name on the actual site, so people know it's specific to this company.

So my questions are does anyone have any kind of advice on how to keep myself from getting served legal papers against these millionaire fuckheads if they see my site? If this company really wanted to sue me, could they go to my Host through whois, and get my real info (if a lawsuit was pending)? (my whois is set to private, so only shows the host)

Should I use a Free anonymous Host? Any tips on building trust with the customers to get the sales, while remaining 100% anonymous? Any tips would be greatly appreciated...thanx.
 


Truth is a defence to libel, however, they can just appeal appeal appeal until you're unable to defend yourself anymore, at which point, they win.
And most free legal services won't represent you in a civil action, unless it's some really landmark case that has the power to set a precedent, which I doubt this would be.

Remaining anonymous is easier than it seems, but does require a little leg work.
Obviously, don't use your real name, but don't use something that's patently false. If possible, use the name of another employee you know that also got laid off. Unfair on them, but hey, this is war, right?

Get yourself a pre-paid anonymous VISA. I don't know about your area, but I can get cards up to $200 from 7-11s and they're all in the name of "Gift Cardholder".
Find a non-U.S. registrar to get your domain name from.
Before you register, either install a TOR addon for your browser, or better yet, go to an internet cafe a few suburbs over and pay in cash.
Fill out the form with false info, and get privacy protection on top of that.

There will be absolutely nothing linking you to the registration of the domain now.
And with nothing linking you, the only thing they can do is complain to the host and have the site shut down... in which case, you just move it to a new host. It's how most of the longer running Warez sites operate.
(in all honesty, this method was given to me by some of the Razor1911 crew, but they used stolen credit cards to really shift the blame. Those guys were great heheh)

Mind telling us which company? Or giving enough info so as to make it blatantly obvious without actually telling us?
 
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Hey Harvey,
Thanx for the concise response...i'll definitely heed your advice. Sorry, but i can't release the name of the company, that would just defeat my whole purpose ;)

I don't plan on using libel/slander at all....i was stating that they could PERCEIVE it as such and sue for those reasons just to toss their weight around, but in all honesty that's probably a long shot anyway. Thanx for the detailed response + rep
 
What about the affiliate company? They have all your information, and if these guys really wanted to find you (and the court as well), they could subpoena the affiliate company for your information.
 
yoey said:
What about the affiliate company? They have all your information, and if these guys really wanted to find you (and the court as well), they could subpoena the affiliate company for your information.
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I have a few ways around that too, but they're more than likely illegal.
If people want a brief run down, I can write something up and email it out.
Falsified identity and all that.
 
yoey said:
What about the affiliate company? They have all your information, and if these guys really wanted to find you (and the court as well), they could subpoena the affiliate company for your information.
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There is no affiliate company. This would be strictly between me and the customers...most likely via organic search, or ppc if I feel like it's worth it. It would be me selling a guide to people looking for retaliation against this company. There is no middle man.

Technically..couldn't this also just be considered freedom of speech? Unless i'm blatantly telling lies...which i really don't need to since all of their scamming actions speak for themselves.

Most of the stuff CorrectAd was talking about in his post seemed to be more reference based (like list of States Attorney Generals...etc)...of course i'd probably emphasize the fact that I used to work for the company to make the guide really intriguing to the customer.
 
A simple way is have a friend help you setup the site, and put their info instead. You can also gather a group of people to create their own sites against the company. I don't think you will be sued just because you decide to talk trash or show the scamming facts you know about a company. Especially since you are an ex-employee and "know" them quite well and may have some evidence to support your claims. If it ever comes to legal papers for you, you can appeal to it or counter against it with your evidence against them.
 
HarveyJ said:
aznzishu: Talking trash is one thing. Provided both he and the company are in the USA, there are free speech and truth provisions.
The real problem is that if he's giving away corporate information to back up the truth of his claims. Those are private, and very actionable.
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Yeah...we're both in the US. Well i think the point of the guide would be more on how to take action against the company to get their $$ back, possibly resources such as state attorney general info, and possibly collect methods that other victims have used with success.

I don't think there is technically anything wrong with that legally. I guess where i might get into trouble is if i'm giving out the Owner's phone # and shit....lol

I do want to make the guide seem like it's actual quality and not just a bunch of shit i collected off the net and put in a pdf....so that's what I have to figure out really.

Thanx for the advice so far guys...definitely have shined some light into my dark corner :P
 
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