ah, someone has almost figured this shit out. you mean you got traffic from 7search, say it aint so! I am sitting in a hospital room, got cut wide open yesterday morning and today I am up making some arbitrage pages. Why? cause I can! what else can you do to make a living that does not stop you the day after having major surgery? AH pain drugs, make me happy!
..jumping into arbitrage
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Ah, the joys of pain killers!
Ask the doc for some Demerol patches. I had some of these after my cancer biopsy as nothing else was killing the pain and man did they make me loopy!
Oh wait, you probably couldn't get much work done then!
Ask the doc for some Demerol patches. I had some of these after my cancer biopsy as nothing else was killing the pain and man did they make me loopy!
Oh wait, you probably couldn't get much work done then!
I've got one layout like that which works alright, but my best layout (which gets over 60% CTR in some niches with Yahoo ads) is fairly complex.
It's probably a good idea to start with something simple, because there are a lot of things you can do in a more complicated layout to screw up your CTR. But having an extremely simple layout isn't a completely unbreakable rule.
Like everyone has been saying, start out buying dirt-cheap traffic. You might end up bidding over $0.20/click on some of your niches, but if you start with that you stand to lose a lot of money fast. I don't bid that high until I have a lot of traffic and ad clicks already to give me a confident estimate of my CTR and EPC and therefore exactly how much each ad click is worth.
Fogive my noobitidy.. but how do you figure out what each niche ad is paying? Also, I set up adsense chanels for each one of my niche pages, but that doesn't seem to track the pages ctr or page impressions individually. Is there another tracking program you guys would recommend?
btw....first 24 hour stats:
cost: 13.97
revenue: 9.05
profit: -4.92
So far today:
cost: 2.15
revenue: 3.36
profit: 1.21
Today's CTR is above 86%
I can't explain the high CTR, but my cost is lower b/c I lowered my bids. Today I will keep creating pages
cost: 13.97
revenue: 9.05
profit: -4.92
So far today:
cost: 2.15
revenue: 3.36
profit: 1.21
Today's CTR is above 86%
I can't explain the high CTR, but my cost is lower b/c I lowered my bids. Today I will keep creating pages
You can't figure out what each niche ad is paying (unless maybe you use some expensive ad tracking script which I've never tried). Here's what you do with your AdSense channels (one for each page):
As often as you're willing, create a spreadsheet listing how much traffic you got, how much you paid for it, how many ad clicks you got, and how much you earned. Do one row for every niche page. Add a column to calculate how much each visitor is worth to you (earnings divided by number of visitors). There are lots of other handy things to calculate but that's the most important number.
If you're getting a great ROI for a niche (each visitor is worth 3-10 times more than you're paying) you can look at bumping up your bids. But don't just do it senselessly. If you're already in spot #1, moving up your bids is a waste of money. It's also a waste if you're in spot #10 and you have to pay an extra fifteen cents just to hit spot #9. Do it when you think it will bump you far enough that the increased traffic will more than compensate for your slightly lower ROI and increase your profit.
By the way, I do all this with a spreadsheet instead of looking at the AdSense (or in my case YPN) stats because that way I don't have my own pageviews or search engine spiders or anything messing up my stats. So for counting my visitors I don't look at my YPN impressions count, I look at my 7Search stats.
As often as you're willing, create a spreadsheet listing how much traffic you got, how much you paid for it, how many ad clicks you got, and how much you earned. Do one row for every niche page. Add a column to calculate how much each visitor is worth to you (earnings divided by number of visitors). There are lots of other handy things to calculate but that's the most important number.
If you're getting a great ROI for a niche (each visitor is worth 3-10 times more than you're paying) you can look at bumping up your bids. But don't just do it senselessly. If you're already in spot #1, moving up your bids is a waste of money. It's also a waste if you're in spot #10 and you have to pay an extra fifteen cents just to hit spot #9. Do it when you think it will bump you far enough that the increased traffic will more than compensate for your slightly lower ROI and increase your profit.
By the way, I do all this with a spreadsheet instead of looking at the AdSense (or in my case YPN) stats because that way I don't have my own pageviews or search engine spiders or anything messing up my stats. So for counting my visitors I don't look at my YPN impressions count, I look at my 7Search stats.
i saw that you can add a chanel to a page and I did that. It seems to be working. I can track in 7search what I spent that day in bids on that one page, then track in adsense how much I made in clicks that day for that one page.
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