..jumping into arbitrage

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Let me introduce myself;
My name's Danny and I've owned an ebay business for the past 3 years selling clothing, and most recently an oscommerce store: Trinity Clothing Outlet
A while back I heard of affiliate marketing and ppc arbitrage. I have very minimal knowledge on how to build webpages and incorporate adsense, etc. Being intrigued as I was though, I followed some helpful advise from a few members on this board and went straight to the library and rented the place out of books on html & ccs. I’ve been reading hard for the past couple of weeks and still learning.
Anyhow, I posted my first arbitrage page today using 7search & adsense. Any helpful advise to a Noob like me on first starting out would be greatly appreciated. I’ll try and post my first 24 hour stats later tmr. :)
 


good luck

don't worry too much about fancy html and css at this stage, a basic page will make you money if it's done right.
 
Thanks everyone!
Here my first 12hours in review:
Cost: $3.79
Total Revenue:$0.25
Profit: -$3.54

One site generated most traffic ($3.20) and had generic ads. I was waiting for google to crawl through the site and change the adsense, but it never happened. Today I just recreated the site by changing the title and all the keywords and it worked, ads are now relevent! I'm thinking the next 12 hours will look a little better now
 
if your ads are not targetted within 10 mins max then there is something wrong with your content. That is what I have seen. Most of my sites get targetted the instant I put adsense up.
 
gl in your quest! :)

i would suggest literally doing the most simplistic site where you are selling a totally niche product and placing direct niche campaigns to fully suit your consumers. once that is in place, hit it hard with ppc and keep your fingers crossed...... :)
 
Most likely you're bidding too much for a niche that does not cover your bid. I know its somewhat of an obvious answer but try to implement this:

1) Make SURE your ads are targeting the keywords you are bidding on.

2) Make sure your CTR is on point. For example, if you are bidding Calculate for example if you are paying .06cents a keyword you know that 5 people can go to your website and not click on an ad, but if the 6 person clicks your ad better pay 40cents. .06x6people .. 36cents, ad payout is 40cents. I know this is a bad CTR but its just the principle.

3) If your ad is paying under 15cents on average, I'd ditch it. Especially if you are bidding on high traffic keywords that aren't well targeted.

This is my two cents, I am new as well, but following these guidelines have worked for me so far. Stop the bleeding!!
 
Danny, I had similar results with the first few niches I tried out. I was paying 5 cents a click and Adsense wound up paying me the same, so with my CTR I lost about $12 before I realized what happened.

Anyways, keep trying new niches, you'll eventually find a few that are golden. My newest one I'm paying 5 cents a click and getting ave $1.15 per click from Adsense with around 40% CTR.

It can be done!
 
I'm new to setting up arbi sites myself.
So far my stats have looked terrible, but I refuse to give up until I am making profit.

I have so far received 9 clicks from 7search (spent $7, over a 16 day period!), and have only made $0.39 with Adsense, lol...
Talk about a negative ROI! :)

And to those who wonder - yes, I do use very popular niches, have a very simple and straightforward template, and I have tried around with different ad copies.

Something's seriously wrong but I am still working on finding out what it is.

What puzzles me the most is that yesterday, 7search reported 5 clicks - but Adsense reported 28 impressions. For an amazing 3% CTR.

My #1 problem is still getting any traffic from 7search. It seems so dead to me. Even for keywords that have 300k+ monthly searches in Google. I have bid up to $0.80 in 7search for some of these just to put at them at the #1 position... yet traffic seems almost non-existent. Hmm...
 
ImagesAndWords said:
I'm new to setting up arbi sites myself.
So far my stats have looked terrible, but I refuse to give up until I am making profit.

I have so far received 9 clicks from 7search (spent $7, over a 16 day period!), and have only made $0.39 with Adsense, lol...
Talk about a negative ROI! :)

And to those who wonder - yes, I do use very popular niches, have a very simple and straightforward template, and I have tried around with different ad copies.

Something's seriously wrong but I am still working on finding out what it is.

What puzzles me the most is that yesterday, 7search reported 5 clicks - but Adsense reported 28 impressions. For an amazing 3% CTR.

My #1 problem is still getting any traffic from 7search. It seems so dead to me. Even for keywords that have 300k+ monthly searches in Google. I have bid up to $0.80 in 7search for some of these just to put at them at the #1 position... yet traffic seems almost non-existent. Hmm...
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Bidding 80 cents is about as useful as most of the comments i've ever made on this board. There are hundreds of very popular niches. Just find one that is popular on google and 7search keywords are reliatively cheap. Don't spent more than 6 cents a click until you work out your layout. Layout isn't also 100% of the deal. Such as the keyword hotel. You can make money off of hotel if you learn to target it or filter it. If you're targeting gereral hotels you want your google ads to be general. Not Los Vegas horseshoe hotel. and New York's statue of liberty inn. Another major factor i found all together is niche. Some niche's are smarter than others. Go get on the front page of digg with adsense on your page. You'll love the 10k uniques. but you'll get about 4 clicks. Another major factor in drawling people is your AD displayed on the 7search network. Does it sell? Are you weeding out too many people? Are you getting too many people to click? Are you targeting not what your ads display? Make your page. Look at what google provides as ads. And write your display AD on seven search around what the ads on google display. Make sure you look at what your competiticion is offering in 7search. You don't need to be number if your ad is number 2 and is written 10 times better than number 1.

Question to ask.

Is it popular on google?
Are 7search keywords prices within reason?
is the niche stupid enough to click?
Does my layout work?
Is it my layout or do i not have enough keyword rich page to display the popular ads or targed ads showing up on a general keyword?
Does your seven search ad suck?
 
scott said:
I had similar results with the first few niches I tried out. I was paying 5 cents a click and Adsense wound up paying me the same, so with my CTR I lost about $12 before I realized what happened.
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Scott, did it happen right away or you have been running arbi campaign with good cost per click on your site and all of a sudden it went down? The reason i'm asking is i'm about a week into arbi which was giving a very good results and all of the sudden i see a drop in what i make making it about equal to what i spend.
 
No this particluar niche is veeery popular and the 7Search bids are low, and in a matter of a day I got almost 500 clicks from 7Search @ 5 cents per click.

However, my Adsense ads apparently wre not targetted right and even with the near 50% CTR I lost about $12 after burning through the $25 that I had deposited that day.

I'm really concentrating on my ad targetting now as I believe I have a good working template.
 
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