howto test ppc affiliate niches?

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My personal experience is with organic affiliate marketing, adsense & flipping sites. I am new to cpc->cpa/affiliate products. I have just recently joined and spent my first 2 days reading as many related posts as I could.

How can you quickly test out niches to see if they will be profitable or not without (1) designing a full 3 page site for it & (2) spending too much money?

I need to figure out a way to quickly test out different cpa products with ppc to determine if it will worthwhile for me to pursue or to move onto the next product/niche.

I have read alot that a 3-5 page pre-sell site are the way to go as it deals with the QS and might drive some organic traffic while you are at it.

Any help would be great.
 


(1) design a full 3 page site for it
(2) spend some good money
(3) tweak

if it fails, be glad you spent 2 days working on something you can learn from. do it for 6 months and if your profitable at the end of 3 months consider yourself lucky
 
yea I'm like 1 week into really trying affiliate stuff. so far I got 1 lead, but it doesn't count since I'm not consistently getting leads.
 
would you pick affiliate a group of related products or cpa then create the site or would you pick a niche and find related affilate products/cpa to do?

i kind of know what to do but not sure about how to pick and test them out without going all into each one.

btw how much is good money to test? can i spend about $25-50 to test?

I am figuring that it will take a lot of trying different niches and products until i find a ppc->am/cpa winner.
 
mason said:
yea I'm like 1 week into really trying affiliate stuff. so far I got 1 lead, but it doesn't count since I'm not consistently getting leads.
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nice. at least you got 1 lead, that is 1 lead more than other ppl.

how many clicks have you got so far?

i am willing to spend the money to test but just want to make sure that I am doing it correctly before I get into it. i suck at designing sites so that will put me at a disadvantage.
 
Unfortunatlely if you want reliable and statistically valid results from a test, you pretty much have to commit to a real test of a niche. That means designing a landing page, keyword/niche research, writing ads, setting up the campaign, etc... Then let it run for a bit to gather some real data. If you go half assed with your testing you will be making decisions on bad data and never know the true potential of a niche. How much to spend? That's up to you. I will usually only throw $300-$400 into a new niche before pulling the plug if it's not converting.
 
My rule for spending money is the value of two conversions, no matter what you market take what you get paid multiply by two and spend that first, if you get a sale tweak it, if you dont get a sale decide if the volume and niche is worth it and tweak the site and repeat
 
SonicReducer said:
Unfortunatlely if you want reliable and statistically valid results from a test, you pretty much have to commit to a real test of a niche. That means designing a landing page, keyword/niche research, writing ads, setting up the campaign, etc... Then let it run for a bit to gather some real data. If you go half assed with your testing you will be making decisions on bad data and never know the true potential of a niche. How much to spend? That's up to you. I will usually only throw $300-$400 into a new niche before pulling the plug if it's not converting.
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wow that is quite a lot for me to throw at a test not to mention the time.

I have the money to invest but was hoping it would take that much lol.

I got a lot to learn so that might be the case.
 
mkrongel said:
My rule for spending money is the value of two conversions, no matter what you market take what you get paid multiply by two and spend that first, if you get a sale tweak it, if you dont get a sale decide if the volume and niche is worth it and tweak the site and repeat
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hmmm that sounds a lot better than $300-400 depending on the value of the conversion ofcourse. lol

tweak the site or is a single landing page enough for the test?

thanks for the help.
 
phpdevrus said:
would you pick affiliate a group of related products or cpa then create the site or would you pick a niche and find related affilate products/cpa to do?
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Talk to your affiliate manager and ask him which offers do well with PPC.

phpdevrus said:
I am figuring that it will take a lot of trying different niches and products until i find a ppc->am/cpa winner.
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Yep. Just expect to spend a decent amount of money before you get something successful going.
 
excellent tips. thanks :-)

definitely gives me some ideas.

now to figure out some more undisclosed details on the ppc->cpa/am process.
 
mkrongel said:
My rule for spending money is the value of two conversions, no matter what you market take what you get paid multiply by two and spend that first, if you get a sale tweak it, if you dont get a sale decide if the volume and niche is worth it and tweak the site and repeat
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hey mkrongel sorry for butting in like this but I spotted the signature and while I have you I want to say I signed up with Copec so if you are the person "evaluating" me then, well here I am. I am not too sure my site is that cool, just wanted to say that I have kind of abandoned sites a little as PPC affiliates is what I am trying to do this year... the sites I do have, if required I can post more than the one subdomain I posted (sleek..etc dot com uk based) here's hoping I can get in and have a go at somethings I have seen in there..
 
halfpc said:
hey mkrongel sorry for butting in like this but I spotted the signature and while I have you I want to say I signed up with Copec so if you are the person "evaluating" me then, well here I am. I am not too sure my site is that cool, just wanted to say that I have kind of abandoned sites a little as PPC affiliates is what I am trying to do this year... the sites I do have, if required I can post more than the one subdomain I posted (sleek..etc dot com uk based) here's hoping I can get in and have a go at somethings I have seen in there..
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Send him a pm and im sure he will get you approved.
 
curious, what do you guys like to do with sites/niches which don't work out for ppc? just optimize for organic search and keep the site going? convert it to MFA?

thanks
 
poolemit said:
curious, what do you guys like to do with sites/niches which don't work out for ppc? just optimize for organic search and keep the site going? convert it to MFA?

thanks
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Personally, I just move on to more testing or optimizing my profitable campaigns. I have a bunch of old domains doing nothing, but if they didn't work out I dont want to waste anymore time on them.
 
makes sense. spend time on what makes you money rather than wasting it on something trying to squeeze a few cents....:rasta:
 
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