How much does Directtrack cost on the network side?
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DirecTrack is 10K initially and can be broke into 2 payments (in my exp)
$997 a month standard but that is without hosting images and DNE overages and etc...
LinkTrust is I believe - $1500 setup $1400 monthly on yearly contract or $1600 a month flat fee.
Hitpath - Dont know for sure. Was seriously considering a DEMO but gave up on it after they kept putting it off a few times. I dont know if they have cookie based tracking either. Last time I knew they did not but it may have changed but that is essential in my position.
LeadShot? I've heard of this one but am not sure about.
Dont know how much help that was but a few specifics for ya.
$997 a month standard but that is without hosting images and DNE overages and etc...
LinkTrust is I believe - $1500 setup $1400 monthly on yearly contract or $1600 a month flat fee.
Hitpath - Dont know for sure. Was seriously considering a DEMO but gave up on it after they kept putting it off a few times. I dont know if they have cookie based tracking either. Last time I knew they did not but it may have changed but that is essential in my position.
LeadShot? I've heard of this one but am not sure about.
Dont know how much help that was but a few specifics for ya.
I always thought paying for blocks of clicks was a bit outrageous.
Not a big fan of 3rd party tracking systems, but if you can't develop your own and you've got to buy something... LinkTrust is a good option. DT is good for cross-publishing offers I guess.
Why'd you go with DT Ruck?
Not a big fan of 3rd party tracking systems, but if you can't develop your own and you've got to buy something... LinkTrust is a good option. DT is good for cross-publishing offers I guess.
Why'd you go with DT Ruck?
I went with DirectTrack initially because of the ease of getting our own offers to other networks. Of course now, we have established enough trust that it doesn't really cost us any down to put one of our offers on a network so the logic in that is a bit redundant now.
We also went with because we are a small team and I intend to keep it that way (as long as I can) so when you are first starting out, it was capital out of pocket involved. I've been thru the LinkTrust demo and honestly...no. Campaign adding is more of a hassle just for starters.
A lot of people say that being the 300th+ Direct Track network is bullshit and you cant make any money. That's horseshit. We had a plan, we knew what we had to do to attract investors and when that day comes, our number 1 priority is to make sure we have everything in place that will allow us to develop our own platform and hire the people to maintain it. But you have to start somewhere and DirectTrack was as good as place as any.
We also went with because we are a small team and I intend to keep it that way (as long as I can) so when you are first starting out, it was capital out of pocket involved. I've been thru the LinkTrust demo and honestly...no. Campaign adding is more of a hassle just for starters.
A lot of people say that being the 300th+ Direct Track network is bullshit and you cant make any money. That's horseshit. We had a plan, we knew what we had to do to attract investors and when that day comes, our number 1 priority is to make sure we have everything in place that will allow us to develop our own platform and hire the people to maintain it. But you have to start somewhere and DirectTrack was as good as place as any.
Ruck,
Can you clarify what a DNE overage is? So, to start an affiliate network basically you need about $10K and at least $997 per month, correct?
DT is an extremely expensive platform if you're running a lot of traffic. They give you up to 300k clicks for that $1k base per month. Then it just goes up up up. Last month we did around a million clicks and I think the bill was close to $4k. This month we're at 461,086 already here on the 6th, I can't wait to see what the bill is going to look like at the end of the month.
Going to try and talk with hitpath this week and see what there deal is. I'll let you know what I find out from them.
Also considering designing our own platform as there's a lot of things we'd like to integrate into the affiliate network platform as far as tools that would really help affiliates. I can easily see $10k/month Directtrack fees if not more in our future. Where if you write your own that cost would relatively go to nothing. It's crazy to think how someone running co-reg at say a 25-30 cent payout could afford it. It would cost you more in clicks then you could make a profit.
But building our own platform would require a lot of time, something I'm running low on.... any know where I can buy some time?
Going to try and talk with hitpath this week and see what there deal is. I'll let you know what I find out from them.
Also considering designing our own platform as there's a lot of things we'd like to integrate into the affiliate network platform as far as tools that would really help affiliates. I can easily see $10k/month Directtrack fees if not more in our future. Where if you write your own that cost would relatively go to nothing. It's crazy to think how someone running co-reg at say a 25-30 cent payout could afford it. It would cost you more in clicks then you could make a profit.
But building our own platform would require a lot of time, something I'm running low on.... any know where I can buy some time?
Building your own would be great, but then you'd be reliable for the hosting clusters and software and fixing all the bugs etc. However, affs would love the custom stuffDT is an extremely expensive platform if you're running a lot of traffic. They give you up to 300k clicks for that $1k base per month. Then it just goes up up up. Last month we did around a million clicks and I think the bill was close to $4k. This month we're at 461,086 already here on the 6th, I can't wait to see what the bill is going to look like at the end of the month.
Going to try and talk with hitpath this week and see what there deal is. I'll let you know what I find out from them.
Also considering designing our own platform as there's a lot of things we'd like to integrate into the affiliate network platform as far as tools that would really help affiliates. I can easily see $10k/month Directtrack fees if not more in our future. Where if you write your own that cost would relatively go to nothing. It's crazy to think how someone running co-reg at say a 25-30 cent payout could afford it. It would cost you more in clicks then you could make a profit.
But building our own platform would require a lot of time, something I'm running low on.... any know where I can buy some time?
When you start to talk big sites, everything needs to be written logically as well and optimized to keep everything optimum. A lot of hassle lol.
But building our own platform would require a lot of time, something I'm running low on.... any know where I can buy some time?
I heard that eBay has some on clearance. Mwahaha...
Man, no lie - if I had like a 6 fig salary I'd write you a DT clone
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Man, no lie - if I had like a 6 fig salary I'd write you a DT clone
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any know where I can buy some time?
Why don't you just create a big remote control like the one Adam Sandler had in "Click"?
Then, while the user is on one of your ads, just pause time, trace their IP, fly over to their house, sign them up to your offer with their own PC, fly back home, hit "Play".
Rinse and repeat.
I'm sure ageing by 10 hours to do that won't be profitable for the $1 you'd get for the email addressWhy don't you just create a big remote control like the one Adam Sandler had in "Click"?
Then, while the user is on one of your ads, just pause time, trace their IP, fly over to their house, sign them up to your offer with their own PC, fly back home, hit "Play".
Rinse and repeat.
The $10k setup is just their barrier to entry, (although not a very high one). I think a lot of network owners, (myself included), use DT because it's an out of the box solution and we THINK that the cross publishing feature is a bonus that no other solutions have. After running it for a couple months, you quickly learn that unless you're the one putting the offer out there, the cross publishing is not all it's cracked up to be.
I think a lot of network owners do plan on having a custom solution written and are using DT as training grounds, taking notes of what is good and what just plain stinks. Also, time is a huge factor and since we all only have so much, we try to find an out of the box solution to help us. As for anyone who says being just another DT network is garbage and won't work, that's just not true. You're using the network because of the service and trust you have in the owners. Guys like Smaxor and Ruck have done it right, they've got the trust and are now doing very well because they go the extra mile.
If you're thinking of starting your own network, I say go for it, it's a ton of work, but it will pay off if you do things right and treat your affiliates like gold.
I think a lot of network owners do plan on having a custom solution written and are using DT as training grounds, taking notes of what is good and what just plain stinks. Also, time is a huge factor and since we all only have so much, we try to find an out of the box solution to help us. As for anyone who says being just another DT network is garbage and won't work, that's just not true. You're using the network because of the service and trust you have in the owners. Guys like Smaxor and Ruck have done it right, they've got the trust and are now doing very well because they go the extra mile.
If you're thinking of starting your own network, I say go for it, it's a ton of work, but it will pay off if you do things right and treat your affiliates like gold.
Ok talked with Hitpath. The sales rep seemed totally uninterested in bringing on new clients. They wouldn't share any pricing she only said it was considerably more then Directtrack. I don' think I'd give this group of people a rusty nickel if it was up to me. The pompous arrogant attitude and the "oh well we can't tell anyone prices" was enough to turn me off for good.
Ran into the same thing Smax. They kept rescheduling our demo. Unforunately I was not very in tune with them anyway after previous talks with some network owners already. I'm leaning more towards developing our own platform which will take time and more resources but I seriously do not want to depend on a 3rd party solution now that I have made a serious commitment to be on the network side of things.
Lol dt sucks, it misses 10% of everything and unfortunately that is now the industry standard because their dumb asses. Link trust is pretty good in my opinion, it's way more accurate and but again it has it's flaws. Best way to go is something home brewed although your in for $50-100k and some headaches for sure, in the end I imagine it would be worth it though.
Making sure you have a robust and redundant tracking system by yourself would be pretty costly, as well (but it can be worth it if you have the resources, volume, and cash flow).
I'm guessing 300-400k to build at the end of the day with a Ton of input and work. Which I just don't have time for right now unfortunately. Maybe in 6 months.
Of course I agree with you 100%. The nice part about owning your own platform is that I can do things with it I know would help affiliates that just aren't being done by any other networks.
If I were to build something I'd probably marry it to something like sugar crm. That's one thing that drives me nutz about DT is there's pretty much CRM features at all.
There's so much from a work flow perspective that could be improved from Directtrack. Also that would really benefit affiliates. Just have to find the time to design a platform.
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