Honestly, how profitable are niche sites?

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I've been doing a lot of research on niche websites lately, and I have a few ideas I've come up with that I'm about to try.

But, in all honesty, how profitable can niche sites really be? I figure I throw down $20 on a domain + hosting, get an adsense account, and then hope for some traffic. If it doesn't work, no big deal... I lost like $20. If it does work, $3 or $4 a day profit... which isn't much, but it's still a profit.

To those of you with niche site experience... I want to hear your stories. Whether success or failure. I'm curious as to how niche sites have played out for you, and are they really worth the hype they've been causing?

Thanks in advance.
 


A mini-niche with a highly targeted keyword campaign and very little competition and there is no limit to how much $$ you can make.

How many other ads do you see when you search for your niche? Are they giving the user resourceful information? Or is it a junk website that you could easily put to shame and improve upon?

With any niche it's about finding a starving crowd with little to no competition and giving them a better solution to their problem than the other competitors.
 
If it doesn't work, no big deal... I lost like $20. If it does work, $3 or $4 a day profit... which isn't much, but it's still a profit.

$3 to $4 per day is $90 to $120 per month. If you pick your niches right, you can get much more than this, but $100 per month per niche is a good goal to have. Multiply that by X amount of sites and you could actually have a decent income.

I'd only warn that you can get easily overwhelmed by carrying around too many niches. I prefer to build up 5 or 6 and then either sell them when they start getting cold or try something new with them (like affiliate or newsletters).
 
When you refer to niche sites, are you refering to scraped niche sites like the Redsteel niche site that Matt was developing in his "How to Develop a Niche Site" thread?

I'd see that a well thought out niche site like the type he develops could generate anywhere from $10 (mainly low cost CTR traffic) to $500 (if you get affiliate sales for products) per month.

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Then again, how do you define a niche site?

If it's themed to one topic, and you have a high ticket item, there's no reason why you can't make a couple of thousand dollars of sales every month.
In good times, you could be look at a couple of tens of thousand of dollars of sales.

During the World Cup soccer tournament, I know of guys who had soccer sites and racked up about $10,000 of profit during that period (affiliate marketing for CDs and football memorabilia).

If you had a Superbowl site with good content, and either a solid PPC or BH traffic strategy going, there shouldn't be any reason why you wouldn't be able to generate a couple of thousand in sales.

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If you're looking for long tail niche sites, I'd see themes like ipod, weight loss, hair loss/growth, low back pain, diabetes as niche sites which can continue to generate steady monthly income.

In cases where you have your own product (such as an ebook), I know of online marketers who can generate $5,000 - $10,000 from a single site.

And once you have a system in place, it's merely a matter of replicating the system.

Once you have 2-3 solid niche websites in place, it gives most marketers financial freedom to do projects they enjoy.

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IMO more important than doing keyword and niche research, would be to talk to people IRL and get their feedback on the problems you plan to address.

Is the need severe?
Would they be willing to pay crazy prices to get their problems solved?

If you have a large, rabid, hungry, price insentive market, I'd go for it.

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A case in point: In many cities outside the US where there are casinos, you frequently see fleets of taxis waiting outside the casinos. They'd typically charge up to 10 times the regular metered fare. Which is ok for the big winners because they have lotsa cash to throw around.

This also means that if you're a taxi driver you might earn $10k or more a month.

But obviously the taxi syndicates might be rolling in a million bucks or more of net profit a month...

Bottomline: Research is the area you need to spend the most time on, and real world data+online data will always trump just looking at keywords alone.


I've been doing a lot of research on niche websites lately, and I have a few ideas I've come up with that I'm about to try.

But, in all honesty, how profitable can niche sites really be? I figure I throw down $20 on a domain + hosting, get an adsense account, and then hope for some traffic. If it doesn't work, no big deal... I lost like $20. If it does work, $3 or $4 a day profit... which isn't much, but it's still a profit.

To those of you with niche site experience... I want to hear your stories. Whether success or failure. I'm curious as to how niche sites have played out for you, and are they really worth the hype they've been causing?

Thanks in advance.
 
When you refer to niche sites, are you refering to scraped niche sites like the Redsteel niche site that Matt was developing in his "How to Develop a Niche Site" thread?

I'd see that a well thought out niche site like the type he develops could generate anywhere from $10 (mainly low cost CTR traffic) to $500 (if you get affiliate sales for products) per month.

---
Then again, how do you define a niche site?

If it's themed to one topic, and you have a high ticket item, there's no reason why you can't make a couple of thousand dollars of sales every month.
In good times, you could be look at a couple of tens of thousand of dollars of sales.

During the World Cup soccer tournament, I know of guys who had soccer sites and racked up about $10,000 of profit during that period (affiliate marketing for CDs and football memorabilia).

If you had a Superbowl site with good content, and either a solid PPC or BH traffic strategy going, there shouldn't be any reason why you wouldn't be able to generate a couple of thousand in sales.

---
If you're looking for long tail niche sites, I'd see themes like ipod, weight loss, hair loss/growth, low back pain, diabetes as niche sites which can continue to generate steady monthly income.

In cases where you have your own product (such as an ebook), I know of online marketers who can generate $5,000 - $10,000 from a single site.

And once you have a system in place, it's merely a matter of replicating the system.

Once you have 2-3 solid niche websites in place, it gives most marketers financial freedom to do projects they enjoy.

---
IMO more important than doing keyword and niche research, would be to talk to people IRL and get their feedback on the problems you plan to address.

Is the need severe?
Would they be willing to pay crazy prices to get their problems solved?

If you have a large, rabid, hungry, price insentive market, I'd go for it.

----
A case in point: In many cities outside the US where there are casinos, you frequently see fleets of taxis waiting outside the casinos. They'd typically charge up to 10 times the regular metered fare. Which is ok for the big winners because they have lotsa cash to throw around.

This also means that if you're a taxi driver you might earn $10k or more a month.

But obviously the taxi syndicates might be rolling in a million bucks or more of net profit a month...

Bottomline: Research is the area you need to spend the most time on, and real world data+online data will always trump just looking at keywords alone.

Great post! The problem I seem to have is actually getting traffic to a site like this. When you guys are talking about building niche websites is the main promotion method just SEO or are you doing PPC to the niche sites?
 
Hmm...
If your topic area is hot and popular, you'd have a lot of natural search traffic. (likely 5000+ searches a month).

Do some basic SEO.

If you want more traffic, you can go with:
1) PPC
2) Whitehat: article submission, press release submission, Digg, MyBlogLog
3) Blackhat:

A comprehensive niche site plan would include concept, content, monetization, traffic, backend components.

The reason why some screw up with niche sites is that they only focus on scraping content. That will kill you.


Great post! The problem I seem to have is actually getting traffic to a site like this. When you guys are talking about building niche websites is the main promotion method just SEO or are you doing PPC to the niche sites?
 
I'm not really sure there is really anything that is not a "niche" site.
It's basically just designing a site around a subject. Maybe the idea is more natural traffic than PPC or something.
 
I have a site on one particular niche that makes about $1000 per month. I have another one on another niche that makes about $50 per month. Both of these require very little management - the one making $1000 was loaded up with content (actually mostly just links to other places with short descriptions) about 2 years ago, and has hardly been touched since, other than running some surveys and doing some press releases. The one making only $50 is auto-filled from RSS feeds and sends out weekly newsletters featuring the new "content".

So asking how much can a niche site make is like asking how much you can make with a monkey. The only answer is, "it depends".
 
SEO doesn't work anymore. Ranking for even the shittiest terms is becoming difficult if there is even slight competiton from older more established sites.
Leave SEO to the BH masters in ukraine and romania. Or companies with big budgets.

Also dont fall for the multiply X sites Y times=X*Y profit gaffe. For one, each site is unique and therefore it iimpossible to gague how it will do. These predictions & forecasts are meaningless. Second, with all these people chuning out tons of niche sites using this method it is only going to get harder.

So in conclusion niche sites dont work very well most of the time.

There IS a way to make money with niche sites though. But Im keeping those methods to myself.
 
I've done SEOd niche sites and they've made the range of $4 - $30 a day by adSense. Each site has 15-30 articles and has a good design. Links aren't too difficult to come by, especially once you have a network - you can drop the site into the network. It takes lots of time, but it's doable.

A pack of them can make good money.

I advise doing big content sites with community elements though, it's more stable, makes more money, and is easier to manage.
 
SEO doesn't work anymore. Ranking for even the shittiest terms is becoming difficult if there is even slight competiton from older more established sites.
Leave SEO to the BH masters in ukraine and romania. Or companies with big budgets.

Also dont fall for the multiply X sites Y times=X*Y profit gaffe. For one, each site is unique and therefore it iimpossible to gague how it will do. These predictions & forecasts are meaningless. Second, with all these people chuning out tons of niche sites using this method it is only going to get harder.

So in conclusion niche sites dont work very well most of the time.

There IS a way to make money with niche sites though. But Im keeping those methods to myself.
you are a blazing fucktard.
 
SEO doesn't work anymore. Ranking for even the shittiest terms is becoming difficult if there is even slight competiton from older more established sites.
Leave SEO to the BH masters in ukraine and romania. Or companies with big budgets.

Sorry, man. Not true. If that was the case, then I'd be broke. I'm not rich (yet) but I damn sure ain't broke.

There IS a way to make money with niche sites though. But Im keeping those methods to myself.

Can't say I blame you here.


Don't get trapped into thinking that something DEFINITELY won't work because there are always exceptions. The beaten path may still have a few detours that not everyone sees.
 
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