Harrison Gevirtz & Taking Jobs On Odesk?

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OP always make sure before posting a link that is public, you don't expect people to login to odesk to view it. Here's a screenshot.

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I think some odesk workers don't earn too shabby
a lot of them have thousands of hours and charge up to $50/hour or so.
that's probably a few $100k in some cases.
at least more than what people on WF earn ;)
 
I think some odesk workers don't earn too shabby
a lot of them have thousands of hours and charge up to $50/hour or so.
that's probably a few $100k in some cases.
at least more than what people on WF earn ;)

Even if they are charging upto $50/hour it's not a great deal. Considering they work office hours 9-5 every day from Monday to Friday. That makes 40 hours a week ( As someone who has previously dealt with Odesk workers, let me tell you, it's very unlikely for contractors to get 40 hours of work every week, competition is fierce and for almost everything you have competitors who are as good as you and willing to do job for a small fraction of what you charge).

Now considering that contractor gets lucky, is charging 50$/hour and getting work for 40 hours every week, he'll end up making 2k a week. ( which is very very rare) , In a year there are about 52 weeks, minus 2-3 weeks for Christmas, holidays etc so about 50 weeks of work.

So the contractor will this way be making 100k / year, and after paying Odesk fees, he'll be left with about 90-95k, so it's not even remotely close to few hundred thousands . And this is the case of a guy who is charging much, getting work continuously for whole year . And you must not forget this does not include any benefits like you get in job like office space, people, paid vacations, medical benefits, food, etc.

The only companies which I have seen profitable on sites like oDesk are offshore outsourcing countries in third worlds.
 
I think some odesk workers don't earn too shabby
a lot of them have thousands of hours and charge up to $50/hour or so.
that's probably a few $100k in some cases.
at least more than what people on WF earn ;)

On oDesk it shows him doing work for under $11/hr. Regardless, even $50/hr is quite a step down from this:

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It amazes me that people good at their trade in western countries do work on oDesk for $50/hr etc.. An example, as someone good at digital marketing, you can usually charge ~$150+ an hour here in the UK for your work. Of course, you don't bill on the hour - but on deliverables, but that's generally how I work out my charges. Estimate how many hours it'll take to do a project, double it, and multiply it up by $XXX (you can then delegate aspects of the work to other employees/remote workers). You'll go higher if you think that there's particularly big ROI involved for the company in the particular case and you can add more value, etc..

$50/hour isn't much money at all, because you don't take into account all the hours you work talking to clients, trying to get clients on board, etc.. A typical contractor is lucky if he can get 3-4 days of billed work a week in + spend the rest looking for new clients. You need a constant flow of contracts coming in.

In the UK it's typical to end up with 4-5 weeks holiday a year. So that leaves 48 working weeks. Assume you're doing well year round and get 7 hours billable work 4 days a week, on $50/hour that's $67,200 a year.

$67k pre-tax, without any of the benefits you'd get doing the same job employed (company car, private health insurance, life insurance, free lunches, pension scheme, etc etc).. It's just not worth it. The same person would do better as an employee, without the stress of having to worry about getting new contracts all the time. That $67k is a best case scenario too, if you imagine you're only getting 3 days work a week, or even worse -- 2. You're talking $50,400 and $33,600 respectively.. $33.6k is barely average salary here in the UK, and $50,400 is only a bit above.

The problem with a highly skilled person in a western country offering their skills on oDesk is that you compete on the same playing field as the Indians and Eastern Europeans, etc who can drastically undercut you. It doesn't make sense for buyers to hire you. However if you approach companies as a contractor in your local area, etc.. You have a massive value add over the Indians and such on oDesk. The company director can come and visit you in your office if you're not doing great, and have a go at you. It's harder for you to escape your duties. You can meet in person and discuss things on a better level, meet the team and get a better idea of the company's culture and what it wants to achieve. There's a greater level of responsibility and better quality relationship built, and that's what the premium is for. All impossible with oDesk.
 
Just because hes advertising that price and using his name doesnt mean HES doing the work....
 
I'd suggest you guys to hire him for an hour to collect your EWA money. (Btw, don't leave any negative feedback in case he could not collect it)
 
I remember before the shit hit the fan in real estate, I was making $XX,XXX monthly. The week Lehman Brothers collapsed, my income stopped completely. Within a year after living off my piddly savings and investments, I was on Craigslist looking at security guard jobs at $15/hr.

Kids, there are many lessons to be learned from other people's mistakes.

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Actually reading the overview, this just looks like a front for someone Harrison is actually outsourcing to himself...

If you've got a bunch of employees/outsourced workers with unused capacity it seems like giving them side gigs on a site like ODesk could be some easy extra money on the side.

That said, an extra $22 an hour here and there probably shouldn't mean much to him...
 
I remember before the shit hit the fan in real estate, I was making $XX,XXX monthly. The week Lehman Brothers collapsed, my income stopped completely. Within a year after living off my piddly savings and investments, I was on Craigslist looking at security guard jobs at $15/hr.

Kids, there are many lessons to be learned from other people's mistakes.

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I know plenty of you wanna dog on Harrison and Ryan.

Rightfully so too. When people gloat and brag and have aggressive persona's and then they fall, many people love to put it back in their face.

Regardless, many of you guys should take heed and take notes as well, this kind of shit can happen to anyone. I am not saying Ryan or Harrison "fell" from grace or still are not ballin, but what Dwight said above is so true.

Not long ago I was making mid 5 figures a day, some 6 fig days too at peak that were profit, just not revenue, then shit happens and you struggle to get back to that and sometimes you can, sometimes you can't. You do what you gotta do though to make ends meet if it comes to that.

Also, from a second perspective.. This doesn't mean Harrison is doing the work either. I know plenty of people making 6 figures a year at their corporate job and then run little ecom, service based bizz, or candy routes on the side that are all outsourced and bring in revenue as well.

For all we know, Harrison is paying someone $4 an hour in India to do all the work involved in this while he collect $22 an hour. At $18 an hour profit, id do it on the side too if it meant no work for me and I was collecting an extra $1k a week from it going towards my mortgage payment, car insurance, or kids college funds. Shit I still run little dinky BST's here too off and on but it is by no means my only source of income and most of the BSTs are all automated with me just putting in the order and running them.. if I only make $50k a year from them thats all extra gravy on my biscuits bro. $50k from that, $50k from some a blog farm running adsense, $50k from client work, and $50k from some side ecom project and thats $200k right there on top of my corporate job that I also collect a salary from is nothing to LOL at even though from the outside the "elance" job for $22 looks peasant by itself.

Too many of you only think something is worth doing if its doing $x,xxx a day. Your totally fucked up in that thinking.
 
"I try to be nice, but I'm not; it's really hard to be humble. My business partner and I are here to make you money, putting competitors out of business. If your an advertiser, it's my job to keep you happy and make you rich, email me now."

I will leave the irony and incredible faceplam I made when I read that aside, but are you for real? You have the dumbest spelling mistake on your "about us" introduction?
 
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