Google to Penalize Over-SEO'd Sites



Oh this is totally going to change the game. Better give up on trying to promote sites.
 
Not give up, just change things up a bit. Today I have seen two companies close their doors, one being BMR. Other companies are still standing. One difference I notices is where hosting took place. Hosting on the clients site seems to be the safer bet.
 
"It's also unclear as to how Google plans to "penalize" sits that over-optimize"

Penalize = Not Rank. Hmmm. This guy must have fluffed a couple sentences to make his 300+ word content rank easily on Google...
 
Basically its saying you can fuck your competition by sending them crappy links as was proven by another member who de-ranked his competition recently shooting crap at his site.
 
slacker77 said:
Basically its saying you can fuck your competition by sending them crappy links as was proven by another member who de-ranked his competition recently shooting crap at his site.
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If this does pass and DOES work like you say... I don't see Google keeping it in action very long.

It would complete ruin the "perfect" google they're trying to make.
 
It's already happening, someone else posted how they have de-ranked their competition just recently using this method.

I also noticed this as well, I had a site that was sitting top 3 for almost a year. I decided to throw a WF package at it, a pretty good one from the reviews and whammo sank to page 3. Tried to boost it with another package, then went to page 2 then back down to page 4. Now has been sitting on page 3 since. It's been about 2 months now.
 
You guys need to understand the difference between "causation and correlation" before jumping to conclusions.

Build sites for humans, not bots and flourish!
 
BMR hosted on their own servers, yet Ledger hosts on his clients servers. Leger seems to have been immune from what just happened, of course their services are a bit different.

"causation and correlation... I am having flashbacks of my hippy Psychology teacher now...
 
You have to look at Cutt's quote:

And we are also looking at the people who abuse it, who put too many keywords on a page, exchange way too many links, or whatever else they are doing to go beyond what you normally expect.
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They were always penalizing sites that did this kind of stuff. Link exchanges and keyword stuffing were always violations of Google's wishes. They are just trying to crack down on what they refer to as blackhat marketing. From what I read there they aren't changing the way they want sites to rank, just trying to do a better job to take out the black hat sites they hate so much.
 
Meatytreats said:
You guys need to understand the difference between "causation and correlation" before jumping to conclusions.

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My sites are all built for humans. My conclusions are based on facts. I am in some very competitive niches. I have a site that ranks on page one for about 75 terms. I did some recent SEO for one of the keywords using WF package. Sank down and has continued to be in the dumps since. This was supposedly one of the best packages on WF as well, not cheap and high quality.

What I suggested as well as another member has recently proven is that by sending crappy spam links to your competitors site you can actually hurt them. To me this new change in the algorythm looks like it can be used in some cases to "demote" your competition. It will be interesting to see if more people can prove this is true and I damn well hope its not!
 
slacker77 said:
My sites are all built for humans. My conclusions are based on facts. I am in some very competitive niches. I have a site that ranks on page one for about 75 terms. I did some recent SEO for one of the keywords using WF package. Sank down and has continued to be in the dumps since. This was supposedly one of the best packages on WF as well, not cheap and high quality.

What I suggested as well as another member has recently proven is that by sending crappy spam links to your competitors site you can actually hurt them. To me this new change in the algorythm looks like it can be used in some cases to "demote" your competition. It will be interesting to see if more people can prove this is true and I damn well hope its not!
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Will be funny if now service providers start to show rank charts of sites dropping instead of rising. 'From #1 to nowhere!'
 
slacker77 said:
My sites are all built for humans. My conclusions are based on facts. I am in some very competitive niches. I have a site that ranks on page one for about 75 terms. I did some recent SEO for one of the keywords using WF package. Sank down and has continued to be in the dumps since. This was supposedly one of the best packages on WF as well, not cheap and high quality.

What I suggested as well as another member has recently proven is that by sending crappy spam links to your competitors site you can actually hurt them. To me this new change in the algorythm looks like it can be used in some cases to "demote" your competition. It will be interesting to see if more people can prove this is true and I damn well hope its not!
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Your taking one factor (i bought a package on WF) and suggesting that is the reason for your drop, when in fact there are hundreds of other factors at play, most of which you do not know about or can comprehend.

It's just not logical to make assumptions like that. It is ignorant at best and borderline retarded to think otherwise.

You are correlating separate incidents and suggesting that they are in fact related. When you have no real proof other than the fact that you "think so" and some other guy on a Internet forum said he did something too.

This is your thought process:

"One week in college I ate nothing but pizza for an entire week and I lost weight. Therefore, pizza makes you lose weight."
 
Read about this article but any sure how what does over seo link building defines ? is there any specific number ?
 
Meatytreats said:
Your taking one factor (i bought a package on WF) and suggesting that is the reason for your drop, when in fact there are hundreds of other factors at play, most of which you do not know about or can comprehend.

It's just not logical to make assumptions like that. It is ignorant at best and borderline retarded to think otherwise.

You are correlating separate incidents and suggesting that they are in fact related. When you have no real proof other than the fact that you "think so" and some other guy on a Internet forum said he did something too.

This is your thought process:

"One week in college I ate nothing but pizza for an entire week and I lost weight. Therefore, pizza makes you lose weight."
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Negative SEO is a real thing, certain links imo will hurt your site. I have seen it a number of times. I am very certain that a package I bought here diminished my rankings for a certain keyterm. I don't think it's coincidence after two years of ranking on the first page for a term and the entire last year as #3 that within a few days of my package being completed my site dropped 3 pages down for that specific keyterm. There may be other factors but EVERY other term that is on the first page for one of my sites (which is over 70 terms) are still in the SAME position. I find it hard to believe that it's just coincidence. I think you believing this isn't possible is an even more ignorant statement especially since Google themselves said this is going to happen and other members have already experimented with this.

http://www.wickedfire.com/traffic-content/152912-i-penalized-my-competitor-aln.html
 
slacker, give it three months, if it was ALN, those links go to nothingland and disappear. You'll bounce back.
 
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