Full body scanners may break child pornography laws

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The pictures created by the scanners are so graphic they are tantamount to "virtual strip searching", according to privacy campaigners who oppose the use of the security devices.

Ministers may be forced to consider making under-18s exempt from the scans and civil liberties campaigners are demanding measures to ensure the images, which will include those of celebrities, are not leaked onto the internet.

Airport officials say the images from the £80,000 scanners are only seen by a single security officer in a remote location before it is deleted.

But a 12-month trial at Manchester airport of scanners which reveal naked images of passengers only went ahead last month after children were exempted.

The decision came after Terri Dowty, of Action for Rights of Children, gave warning that the scanners could breach the Protection of Children Act 1978, under which it is illegal to create an indecent image or a "pseudo-image" of a child.

A spokesman for the Department for Transport told The Guardian: "We understand the concerns expressed about privacy in relation to the deployment of body scanners. It is vital staff are properly trained and we are developing a code of practice to ensure these concerns are properly taken into account.

Gordon Brown gave the go-ahead at the weekend for the scanners to be rolled out across all Britain's major airports, and said travellers would see the gradual introduction of full-body scans and hand luggage checks for traces of explosives.

The Prime Minister told the BBC that the Government would do everything in its power to tighten security following the attempt by Nigerian Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab to detonate a bomb on a plane bound for the USA on Christmas Day.

BAA, which runs six UK airports, said it would now install the devices "as soon as is practical" at Heathrow.

A spokesman said: "It is our view that a combination of technology, intelligences and passenger profiling will help build a more robust defence against the unpredictable and changing nature of the terrorist threat to aviation."

But he added that nothing had yet been decided on exactly which passengers would undergo the full body scans, and declined to comment on how soon BAA would be extending the use of scanners to other airports.
Do they have this in the US yet?
 


I don't know. But in Canada 11 will be in place in Vancouver and Toronto in the next two weeks ($250,000 per machine).

Due to these laws children [those under 18 years of age] won't be able to go through these scanners. They will simply be patted down if there is anything to worry about.

Of course what you see on the screen is nothing close to "picture" quality and it's a total mindfuck how people can say this "violates" their rights. Flying isn't a right, it's a privilege. Just like driving a car - if you don't want to comply to the rules you don't have the right to drive.

You don't like what may happen to you, but very likely won't, then don't fucking fly. There are other means of transportation.

...Also you can opt to be patted down instead of going through this machine in Canada. I don't know about in the US but up here this is made into such a huge deal over nothing.
 
I have seen some at a few airports in the US but they only had one and were not using it. Though hearing so much about it on the news recently made me look up some images. They way they were talking about it on the news I thought these images were going to be way hotter.

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Of course what you see on the screen is nothing close to "picture" quality and it's a total mindfuck how people can say this "violates" their rights.

I consider it a violation of privacy. The clarity of the image is not the barometer I would use to define such a breach. Plus, I read an article about these scanners months ago (in The Atlantic). The new platform has already been designed, though it hasn't left beta. What is being deployed in airports is version 1.0. It's safe to say the clarity will improve.

Flying isn't a right, it's a persiflage.

Hmm. Had to look that word up. Still not sure what you meant by using it.
 
Hahaha

"Child protection" runs up against the "War On Terror" : the two most over-hyped excuses for the government to clamp down on civil liberties.

Shame they won't both annhilate each other in a flash of anti-democracy.

Thanks for reminding me about this - forgot about how fascist our country is and was going to put a pic of our baby daughter in bath up on facebook. It's reminded me that I'd probably get arrested and put on the sex offenders register for such a heinous act.
 
I consider it a violation of privacy. The clarity of the image is not the barometer I would use to define such a breach. Plus, I read an article about these scanners months ago (in The Atlantic). The new platform has already been designed, though it hasn't left beta. What is being deployed in airports is version 1.0. It's safe to say the clarity will improve.

Don't know about the US - I think you're located there - but you can opt to be patted down instead of doing this. This technology, in Canada, is just used to speed up the process of getting people in and out.

Hmm. Had to look that word up. Still not sure what you meant by using it.

Sorry, clicked on the wrong corrected word. I meant privilege - just like riding a car if you don't want to follow the rules you can't fly. Since you can opt out of this, just by asking, this really is not a big deal imo.
 
Hahaha

"Child protection" runs up against the "War On Terror" : the two most over-hyped excuses for the government to clamp down on civil liberties.

Shame they won't both annhilate each other in a flash of anti-democracy.

Thanks for reminding me about this - forgot about how fascist our country is and was going to put a pic of our baby daughter in bath up on facebook. It's reminded me that I'd probably get arrested and put on the sex offenders register for such a heinous act.

Don't forget to avoid yelling at your spouse. That could earn you a criminal record.
 
I remembered they were trying to push the 2257 Rev.B by claiming its a measure to protect children even though while it 'technically' would have, anyone illegally taking pictures of sexually exploited kids is not going to be keeping a record of their IDs and so forth anyways. And it would attack basic artistic freedoms, since the revision called for record keeping of any photograph or video, cloths or otherwise.

Far as the scanner qualities above... kids scanned wouldn't reveal anything more than kid's swimsuits already do.
 
Don't know about the US - I think you're located there - but you can opt to be patted down instead of doing this.

...Since you can opt out of this, just by asking, this really is not a big deal imo.

This cuts to the heart of some core beliefs I hold. I can't put the time in to do it justice (and it would belong in another thread if I could). Instead, I'll respectfully... opt out.
 
I've seen reports that Terahertz waves can break DNA chains.

Wonder what kinds of mutations and cancer these things will produce.
 
the health threat is a far bigger concern of mine.

absolutely ridiculous all of this is. it's making travel less and less appealing.

That's my concern also. They have not talked about the safety. Exposure to them could increase the risk of cancer.

War on terror = war on YOU.