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This shit happened months and months ago.

Basically, this douche Matthew Conlon, ripped my first ever profitable campaign. I was running with EWA, and he was my affiliate manager. I told him almost all of the details of my campaign (I know, I know, but I was new to AM). I'd run with them before, but never got anything profitable. After a load of adspend & testing though, I finally got this one profitable.

As I became more profitable, I asked for paybumps, obviously. However, Matt started asking for advice on his own campaigns. He ended up giving me a paybump under the condition I'd help him further. (Ruh-roh, I think we know where this is going...)

He then let me login to his POF account, so I could see the campaign itself. Turned out, he'd duplicated my campaign as much as he could, same offer - He made out originally like it was his own campaign, not a rip of mine. I had a look at the paused campaigns too, and there I found 2 campaigns based around another offer I'd started running. Looking at the demographics, I noticed he'd used a tip that I KNOW I was the only person using, that I'd told him in confidence, and had found out for myself. He'd never even mentioned these campaigns, and (I don't know this, this bit's an educated guess) paused them to avoid me seeing them.

I gave him a small bit of intentionally bad advice mixed in with some good, after this, but I thought there wasn't much point switching networks, I'd just avoid giving him any more advice. But here's the nail in the coffin. I noticed 2 days later that suddenly, my impressions had dropped like a stone. Upped the bid by a cent, got half the original impressions, upped by another, got the same impressions, and he complained about his dropping like a stone.

With him outbidding me as well (I assumed, I can't be sure of that), I decided to get my paycheck as quickly as possible, then got the hell out of there. Switched over to Epic, right before they had their first payment issues. Obviously, by the time I'd got paid by Epic, the campaign was dead.

I messaged Ryan a few months later, in response to a "how's your AM" email. The results of that are linked below. (email addresses edited out to avoid spambots) I should also mention that Ryan kept Matthew in employment until around December. I told him in June.

I'd erred on and off about posting this, but after getting an email from EWA, and seeing this: PoF Still a Viable Source | EWA Network Docs I just had to.

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Inb4 tl;dr, whitepeopleproblems, umad, snowman.jpg
(I asked Hack prior to posting this.)
 


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People who run with EWA/pkm or any other brokered networks shouldn't really expect anything different. Staffed and owned by tards with aspergers and very likely to steal your campaigns or blast it on email/twitter. Lesson learned I hope.
 
People who run with EWA/pkm or any other brokered networks shouldn't really expect anything different. Staffed and owned by tards with aspergers and very likely to steal your campaigns or blast it on email/twitter. Lesson learned I hope.

QFT.
 
First warning sign? Can't spell malicious...

Honestly, I stopped running w/ them over a year ago when the little Eagle lied through his teeth to me about one of their offers.

Maxbounty all day.

Good riddance.
 
wow this is pretty embarrassing:

I don't even know if the information you offered him would have actually helped him anyways (lol, it was kinda setting him in wrong direct in some cases which I thought was funny).

Either way, I really apologize about the feeling that you get and I would...

Here's a tip, if you're going to apologize to your client don't belittle them right before by saying 'lol was bad info anyway' - it makes you look like a dick and the apology comes across as insincere.
 
Soooo let me get this straight. You were telling your account manager for EWA (a network that doesn't hide the fact they run internally) about a profitable campaign. He asks for tips on THAT campaign in exchange for a pay bump. You give him tips and your surprised that he used those tips for the same campaign exactly?

No offense man, but you should consider this a learning experience. You're completely right, it shouldn't happen, its not right, but you also have to be aware of who you're telling what to.
 
I thought I was the only MaxBounty fan here as people were talking about EWA and similar networks quite often. Nice to see I am not the only one.

I just got started with them a couple weeks ago and I couldn't be happier.
 
Hmm..bit surprised to see this myself. Running quite a bit of volume with them on dating right now, Matt is my AM as well. Haven't had him inquire about my campaigns even though I'm doing big numbers. Hopefully this is a misunderstanding.
 
We handled this privately and professionally almost a year ago, and I'm not sure why you’re still bringing this up. I reviewed all chat logs, spoke to you and the affiliate manager at length, and concluded that there was no evidence supporting your claims so it appeared the situation had been resolved amicably. It's quite clear this is simply another slanderous attempt to damage my companies reputation with unclear intentions.

As far as ripping your campaign goes, he never once had access to your creatives, images or ad copies. Upon close scrutiny of the record and given my extensive knowledge of the ad platform, it is quite obvious to anyone who is even remotely experienced with POF that you intentionally misled and manipulated him in return for payout bumps – not the other way around as you are trying to paint it.

I gave him a small bit of intentionally bad advice
I pulled the numbers on the accounts as you claim he ripped your campaign and was outbidding you, from 3/17/11 – 4/17/11 (the only time period the affiliate manager was sending any traffic to the campaign, your volume more than doubled his)

You claim that he stole your campaign, what actually happened was the offer (MRG) was paused network wide by the advertiser that month, please stick to the facts

after a load of adspend & testing
This is blatant lie, I will spare you the public humiliation of posting the kind of numbers you were pushing but I can assure everyone here it was an amount of little measure.

He then let me login to his POF account, so I could see the campaign itself. Turned out, he'd duplicated my campaign as much as he could, same offer
Running the same offer at a fraction of the volume is not equal to duplicating your campaign. Also he never had access to any of your creatives whereas you had full access to his entire account. There is not a single line in any transcript anywhere where you give even the remotest glimpse of what you’re running. You intentionally misled in every way possible regarding bidding strategies and targeting in return for higher paybumps, which he was already quite generous with.

You logged into his account, and stayed logged in for quite a while as several times he had to ask you to log out while you were doing god knows what (you mention looking at his other campaigns, looking at his payment information, etc., very suspect behavior on your part - which we do have chat transcripts of and we are not posting due to privacy purposes)

Paybumps were never conditioned upon you helping him further. Bumps were given conditioned on him scaling up and sending more volume, see the following very clearly laid out from the verbatim transcript that bumps would be given in return for volume, standard industry protocol:
Matthew Conlon: when it gets to 20 i'll give you a small bump and if you can get it higher i'll continue to do so
Matthew Conlon: ya I can do a bump, but i'd need to see a little more volume

At certain points, the affiliate manager jokingly said I will bump you if you help me out, but this was clearly not a condition, and after what he had thought was a certain comfort / level of friendless established between AM and affiliate (after over a month of working together and chatting regularly)
Matthew Conlon 4:32:26 PM: “i was hoping you'd be able to help me get something setup lol
Notice the “lol”, this is clearly not any sort of condition, the only actual conditions for bumps were increasing the volume, and he was bumped multiple times on the offer accordingly. Based on the volume, he also never came through on those promises of increased volume either.

In addition, Matthew is still proudly employed at EWA Network and I stand fully behind his ethics. If he had ever done anything wrong, stolen anything, or put my personal name at risk ever he would have been ejected when we discussed this. This is my last and final response to this thread - I take my reputation very seriously.

Before you go continue posting a left-field post about us, remember that you actually still owe us money. The amount you were overpaid by on that check is higher than your lifetime earnings with us. You've clearly twisted and turned our words around for what purpose?

You can make the overpayment you still owe us to: paypal@eaglewebassets.com.
 
Before you go continue posting a left-field post about us, remember that you actually still owe us money. The amount you were overpaid by on that check is higher than your lifetime earnings with us. You've clearly twisted and turned our words around for what purpose?

You can make the overpayment you still owe us to: paypal@eaglewebassets.com.


How the fuck do you manage to overpay somebody? That's straight up retarded.