Does anyone still support the drug war?

mattlock25

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This past semester I had to enroll myself in some kind of English/humanities elective to fill credit requirements, and I ended up taking a journalism class to do so. Even though I find analyzing politics and media to be a soul-sucking activity, the class is relatively easy so whatever.

Since this year was an election year, you could only imagine the field day our professor was having in our class talking about the campaigning, polling, and other political bullshit. After the election ended, we've been analyzing the post-election coverage of different things, mostly the presidential race, but we've also looked at some of the ballot initiatives like gay marriage and marijuana legalization.

Now when considering the more typical media sources, I find that most political issues in general are equally represented on either a right vs. left, this vs. that point of view. Obviously there's room for debate and interpretation of the issues, but for the most part this is how the "mainstream" news media tends to frame their stories.

In my journalism class, when we started examining the recent legalization of marijuana in Colorado and Washington, and what this meant for the drug war, basically everyone was against the current U.S. drug policy (as to be expected on college campuses). Even though I agree with this position, I was curious as to what kind of arguments supporters of the drug war were making in the wake of the election.

What I found? One article in a small Chicago newspaper (War-on-Drugs-a-success - Chicago Sun-Times)

This was the only thing I could find that considered our current policy a success. Other than that, everything else was either suggesting the drug war was a failure, or just supporting the notion outright. I looked at CNN, MSNBC, huffingtonpost, forbes, latimes, reuters, and even fox news.

Hell fucking Pat Robertson agrees: Pat Robertson: Pot should be legal like alcohol | Fox News


So why am I talking about this? Several reasons: Over the past several years our society's view of marijuana has been changing rather quickly, and the fact that the media now seems more open to serious political discussion is good news for those who want to legalize. Also it seems rather unusual to me that there isn't more outrage from those opposed on this issue, considering the fact that two states just legalized the plant for adult recreational use. Lastly, the Feds have made it clear they're still going to pursue marijuana users as violators of federal law, but with what appears like more sympathy from the media on this issue, a change in drug policy seems all the more likely. If there's enough majority support, I can't really imagine the government continuing its campaign on what really is such a trivial issue in the grand scheme of things.


All of my reasoning above kind of relies on the fact that no one in the media is supporting the current war on drugs. Is there any reliable or respected news medium that's presenting this point of view? Do any of you still oppose legalization?




tl;dr - Media now starting to recognize drug war as a failure, seemingly no one is still in support of current policies.
 


people who sell drugs support the drug war.

Even more: Those who extort those who sell drugs.

Drug sellers would still be around if drugs were legal. But those who extort drug traffickers (politicians, high level government bureaucrats and secret service agencies) would lose all their drug related revenue.
 
the Feds have made it clear they're still going to pursue marijuana users as violators of federal law, but with what appears like more sympathy from the media on this issue, a change in drug policy seems all the more likely. If there's enough majority support, I can't really imagine the government continuing its campaign on what really is such a trivial issue in the grand scheme of things.

Marijuana has been proven to decompartmentalize the brain. They don't want that.

Actually, maybe they do now. "Fuck! We made them too stupid! Be lax on the drug laws for a while, and allow some critical thinking within the general populous again".
 
Marijuana has been proven to decompartmentalize the brain. They don't want that.

Actually, maybe they do now. "Fuck! We made them too stupid! Be lax on the drug laws for a while, and allow some critical thinking within the general populous again".

Have you met most drug users?
 
These guys:

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Have you met most drug users?

Define "drug user", but yes, I can safely say I've met that type of person. :)

You mean the schizophrenic heroin addict, or the guy who just likes to smoke a joint a few nights a week? Maybe somewhere in between?
 
people who sell drugs support the drug war.


Well yeah this is true, but I'm more focused on the role media will play in the events moving forward. If there is more pro-legalization reporting, which up to this point in time has been almost non-existent in the mainstream, do you think things can change? I know there's a lot of money involved in keeping prohibition going, but if support for ending current policies gains enough popularity, could politicians ever see it in their best interest to legalize marijuana? Before this election it was considered political suicide to even entertain the idea of legalization, now politicians who support this notion are starting to win elections...
 
Support the drug war?

It really depends on what kind of drugs we are talking about.

Heroin, Cocaine, and Meth? Absolutely.
Hallucinogenics? Yep (at least those known to turn people violent).

Marijuana? Nope. In fact, if given the choice between Alcohol and Marijuana, and I had to ban one of them, I'd ban Alcohol without hesitation.
 
It's only a matter of time. And when they finally do legalize it at the federal level I'm sure millions of Americans will celebrate the negligible leniency of their masters.
 
In the UK it's so fucked up, practically all lower class is pro weed, and just recently the gov has hiked up the tax/minimum price on alcohol units. very mixed messages. Either way, the gov do not give a shit what we think here, they just think they can solve problems through prohibition, which we all know does not work, never mind the fact its oppressive.
 
If there's enough majority support, I can't really imagine the government continuing its campaign

What most politicians are aware of is that a public majority isn't necessarily a majority among voters. "Older" people tend to be the biggest supporters of the drug war.

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Yeah, we should be focusing on stopping illicit drugs, especially when more people die from prescription drug abuse each year than these so called "illicit drugs."
 
For a forum full of smart people you'd think they'd understand the difference between drugs like Alcohol, Xanax, etc and pot. Pot is illegal, because it's been proven scientifically to have 0 value medical value. Sure, some "doctors" have said it's good for x,y, and z illnesses, but in fact it's not. They're part of a conspiracy to get it completely legalized and unfortunately it's working.