DB Site banned in a week

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Aveligand

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So one of my newer database sites got banned (i think) yesterday. It was a 6-year old domain that I bought on seodomains.org.

Here's a rundown what happened:

Day 0: Bought the database, bought domain, threw up a more or less unique template and generated 10,000 pages using webmerge and uploaded them.

Day 1: Added 3 social bookmark links (propeller, digg, stumble)

Day 2: Threw up 20 blogger blogs (blog and ping) to help get the DB site indexed faster

Day 4: 20 pages indexed.

Day 6: 0 pages indexed.

So what do you guys think? It is gone for good? I didn't knew that google treated DB sites in the same light as YACG or other autogenerated crap. But if thats the case, it'll all be churning massive amounts of crap sites for me over quality from now on.
 


Too quick of a timespan to know for sure. Google's index fluctuates quite frequently these days. I've got 1 site that jumps from 15k pages indexed to 6k indexed overnight.

Is googlebot still visiting? I'm pretty sure if it is then you are not banned.

I think a big portion of the question really can't be solved without looking at the site (which you probably don't want, and I don't blame you for it). I've seen some very crappy db driven sites that look and taste like spam. Which is possibly what your site is.

also, markov'd sites usually don't get banned after a week unless the footprints are gigantic.
 
erect said:
Google's index fluctuates quite frequently these days. I've got 1 site that jumps from 15k pages indexed to 6k indexed overnight.
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^ bingo.

happens all the time. "oh noes, i'm banned"... few weeks later.. "n/m, i'm back with even more pages indexed."

don't get caught up on day-to-day fluctuations. just keep building/promoting.
 
Pretty new site - maybe viewing through different data centers on day 4 and 6
 
erect said:
Too quick of a timespan to know for sure. Google's index fluctuates quite frequently these days. I've got 1 site that jumps from 15k pages indexed to 6k indexed overnight.

Is googlebot still visiting? I'm pretty sure if it is then you are not banned.

I think a big portion of the question really can't be solved without looking at the site (which you probably don't want, and I don't blame you for it). I've seen some very crappy db driven sites that look and taste like spam. Which is possibly what your site is.

also, markov'd sites usually don't get banned after a week unless the footprints are gigantic.
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Googlebot keeps visiting after a ban. My first shared hosting server doesn't have a single domain left indexed on Google(though many, many on Yahoo/MSN), and Googlebot still rapes it constantly.
 
Gotta echo what the others are saying. Esp. with a DB site with that many pages, you'll probably be back in a week or so. Reminds me that I need to learn Webmerge.
 
IronLogik said:
^ bingo.

happens all the time. "oh noes, i'm banned"... few weeks later.. "n/m, i'm back with even more pages indexed."

don't get caught up on day-to-day fluctuations. just keep building/promoting.
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It took me forever to truly believe this but its true. The term "analysis paralysis" is very true. Looking at your stats and seeing that your site is banned and not getting traffic, doesnt do anything to get your site traffic.

It's rare that google perma-bans a site, unless its blackhat-esque. Keep working at your promotion and content, if you arent ranking in 3-6 months, get in touch with the Goog and ask em what you are doing wrong and it they can reconsider your site.
 
nickycakes said:
my experience is that if it drops out of google entirely you're banned. never had it be otherwise.
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If your site doesnt show up in goog for "yourdomain.tld", then I think you are really banned. I've had sites that dropped out of the rankings but still ranked for their own domain name. Generally after a little time and some more content / link building these sites started to rank well for the keywords I was targeting.
 
KunkVentures said:
If your site doesnt show up in goog for "yourdomain.tld", then I think you are really banned. I've had sites that dropped out of the rankings but still ranked for their own domain name. Generally after a little time and some more content / link building these sites started to rank well for the keywords I was targeting.
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i'm talking like
site:nickycakes.com

if theres no indexed pages anymore, and there used to be, it's usually banski
 
No, if it's brand new it might pop into the index a couple of days and then disappear again. If it's not banned it will return soon (probably within a week).
 
Update: Site's still in the index. knee-jerk reaction on my part. Probably just different datacenter viewings.

thanks to everyone who's helped out so far.
 
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