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Hi! I’ve been a forum member for not quite a month yet. Me and my partner have been reading and absorbing as much information about this industry as we can. Unfortunately we still feel a little lost. We were hoping you could give us some feedback on our first arbitrage project. Our website is Dog training schools . We completed all the below steps two days ago, but so far we haven’t had any page views.
  • We began by brainstorming niches. We chose dog training schools because nichetaxi.com seemed to like it and it seemed like a low cost attempt to start an arbitrage site.
  • We’d already had hosting from another project that is on the backburner, so we purchased our domain from namecheap.com and transferred it over to our existing host.
  • Built a number of web page templates and ultimately decided to go with an ultra-simple design.
  • Designed a logo, wrote up a short article, and added one google adsense block to the template.
  • Hosted our site on our host, Hostmonster. (see if you can use the word ‘host’ more densely than that phrase!)
  • Using KE, we generated a list of about 550 keywords. The list is here if you’re interested: http://www.doggytrainingschools.info/keywords.htm We’re not sure if we should go back and eliminate some of the localized ones or the ones that include negative words (like free). Need some input here.
  • We decided to use 7search as our advertising mechanism. We understand that 7search offers some of the cheapest traffic, so we decided to go with them. Initially, we had bid at 1 cent for most keywords, and 5c for some of the higher traffic words. Now, we are bidding 1c for most keywords, 3c for keywords with more than 100 searches and 5c on those with more than 500 searches.
We are using 7search for traffic but google adsense for revenue. Is this going to make a difference? Are we going to want to move to google adwords in the future? Do you have any other advice about this website? Are we moving in the correct direction (this is our first project of this type, so I wanted to make sure we’re not way off base)?
 


We are using 7search for traffic but google adsense for revenue. Is this going to make a difference? Are we going to want to move to google adwords in the future? Do you have any other advice about this website? Are we moving in the correct direction (this is our first project of this type, so I wanted to make sure we’re not way off base)?

Well you not completely off base but you have to remember that a site dedicated only to Arbi won't make much money........no wait let me rephrase that only one page dedicated to Arbi won't make much money....that sounds better...Arbi by numbers on the other hand holds some serious power, to get you more interested, Arbi by numbers by automation holds even more serious power haha.

Ok simply put doing arbi is a matter of creating a site like you've done, then using a second and third tier search engine like 7 search as you have and then using one of the big 3 (Google, YPN, or MSN) as your main source of revenue, so that part you got right.....You won't want to move over to Google Adwords, YPN, or MSN Adcenter when doing arbi......that just makes for more research and more work.

The simply explanation behind this is buy low, sell high, well more or less click high, what kind of research have you done on your keywords?, have you used the Adwords External Keyword Tool to examine the keywords in your site to determine the approx profit per click you will get?.

The trick is to have high paying Adsense ads on your site so if you pay .01 cent for a visitor on 7 Search and that visitor clicks you'll want to make more then .01 cent for that click in order for it to be profitable, now you won't get 100% CTR with any template, well you might but if you do feel special cause it doesn't always happen.

You need to test the site to see what type of power it holds so pay for your traffic from 7 Search and see what your CTR is like in Google Adsense, from their try to re-position your Adsense ads in different places to maximize your CTR.

Ok back to power by numbers, if you get to know your SEO a bit you'll soon realize (And I'm not going to disclose how) but you can create a simple site like you've done then do nothing else with it and gain traffic once it gets indexed by Google, the traffic will be minimal if you can get 50 or so clicks per month and a 50% CTR that is 25 clicks so say an average of .20 cents per click gives you $5 bucks per month.

Pretty shitty right?........wrong because once you've done that you simply repeat 2000 times and now your making $10,000 per month for doing nothing, now it takes time for this to take full effect so say you go out and buy 2000 domains, SEO them correctly, place your Adsense on them in the right areas, and did your keyword research enough to get you those 50 visitors per month, after that it can take up to 6 months for it to take full effect.

But as you can see it holds a lot of power by numbers, but imagine if their was a way that you could automate that entire process so it only takes you a month or less to create all of that and you then only need to wait 3 months for it to take effect.

That is what I meant by great power by numbers by automation. Now you might ask how do I automate this and how do I do what you said to pull in the big bucks.

The simple answer is I'm not going to tell you, nor am I going to disclose that information to anyone else.....why?, Again its simple for me I'm currently still working on the full automation process but I can promise you that once I'm done I'll simply do my keyword research and click a button and 2000 sites are created out of thin air......actual thats small time I'm working on something in the range of 10,000 sites.

You might think thats crazy and no one could pull it off but the reality of what I'm telling you is that the more vision you have the more things you can examine, the more ways you can tweak to make things quicker, easier, and make you more money in the end.

Ok this was a long post that drug on and now I'm continuing to drag it on by talking about how its been dragging on (Confused Yet), but I'll stop typing and in case this didn't answer your questions specifically, I'd suggest you think about the meaning behind it.
 
I was waiting for Aequitas to pitch us on his E-Book....

But I agree with everything he said....No one is going to give you their golden goose...It is not easy to get started...and the route you are going is gonna take a really long time to show any significant results...
 
WOW! thanks for the replies. They were awesome.

what kind of research have you done on your keywords?

None. We generated the list of keywords using KE. What kind of research should we be doing?


Have you used the Adwords External Keyword Tool to examine the keywords in your site to determine the approx profit per click you will get?.

We have used the Adwords External Keyword Tool but not in the way that you have mentioned. Thanks for the tip.

Also, how long does it usually take before an arbi site begins to get traffic? Is there a waiting period? I ask because our arbi site is only getting a few page impressions per day :(
 
I was waiting for Aequitas to pitch us on his E-Book....

But I agree with everything he said....No one is going to give you their golden goose...It is not easy to get started...and the route you are going is gonna take a really long time to show any significant results...

Diorex, do you suggest an alternative route for beginners?
 
Hi Crunny.

As far as I get your problem, it is NOT a bad CTR (also known as "no one wants to play with my ads" - syndrome) but you actually have NO pageviews.

Is that right?

You might want to check several things:

a) See if your site is activated in 7search
b) You might have to bid higher - CHECK this
c) Expand your keywords

on c:

  • Turn off your tools except notepad (or maybe excel) and a browser.
  • First, use just your brain and your current list. Come up with some more stuff. It'll be hard at first but gets easier as you get going. Take your existing list as a trigger. "2 dog training collar" is on your list. "Two dog training collar" comes next. "two dog training collars", "training leash", "two dog training leash", "two dog training leahs" (Typo intended), "tow dog training leash", "two dgo training leash", "training collars" ... etc...
  • Search for the stuff on your list. Look at nothing but Google result pages. Note down words and phrases from other sites' abstracts.
  • Run your list through a typo generator.
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