Anyone here an NLP Practitioner?

SirKonstantine

SirKonstantine

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I'm going to practitioner training on the 23rd. If you've went, how did it help you in biz and life in general?
 


I fuck around just because I'm bored and find it interesting, most of the time. You can use it for anything, business, relationships and just life in general. NLP doesn't work for everyone, and that's because it's a belief system more than anything. Either your in or your out, there is no middle ground. That's all it really is, you already use a lot of what you're going to be taught in your practitioner class you just don't know how you use it on a conscious level yet, which hopefully you will after. NLP is like creating a set of rules to the little blackbox called your subconsciousness and then being able to use it to your benefit, it's fucking great if you can, sucks if you can't. There are so many ways to experience it, that's what makes it fun for me. Good luck man, you're in for a wild ride ;)
 
Never been to a training but have studied it on and off since high school. It has taught me a lot about how to communicate effectively and persuade people in a variety of circumstances. Like anything else it takes a lot of practice to own the techniques and use them naturally.

I hope you get a lot from the training, I've heard good things and seen some pretty outrageous pricetags too.
 
@CCarter: neuro linguistic programming. Darren Brown, Tony Robins, and lots of other speakers use NLP in their talks.

@skohh: Yeah I've been working with it for awhile now. I've gotten good enough where I can induce trances into people conversationally and do belief changes on them. Pretty awesome. Of course, the person I like to work with the most is myself :).

@MSTeacher: As I read your message, it occurred to me that we might have similar experiences with NLP. However, I just wanted to get more from it and believe that the 4k price tag for 12 days of training would be worth it. It really freed me of lots of limiting beliefs, negative thoughts, and several un-empowering past identities.
 
CCarter said:

What does NLP stand for?
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Neurolinguistic programming.

In my personal opinion it's a pseudo-science that's just a sexier way of packaging up and selling existing psychology.

There are people I highly respect who would disagree with me, so I'm not saying I'm right, or not to study it.

But things it teaches, like future pacing, where you paint a before and after picture for a prospect when selling to them is something I did with my marketing before I'd ever heard of NLP.

Other stuff like embedded commands, where you can subconsciously convince someone to take a specific action based on hidden suggestions like "by now you realize that" = "buy now" I don't really take seriously.

I think it's more likely someone buys something because they want it than because someone used an embedded command on them.

But meh, that's my take. I'd say it's worth studying if you find it interesting.

I've been in arguments with people who say "you use NLP all of the time, you just don't realize it" and my response is "you use basic psychology all of the time, you just call it NLP".

I'd be interested to hear about your take after the class OP.
 
SirKonstantine said:
I can induce trances into people conversationally and do belief changes on them. Pretty awesome. Of course, the person I like to work with the most is myself :).
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Just be careful how you use it, it's a very powerful tool much like a hammer... You can use it to bang in a nail to build a house or you could use that hammer to bash someone's brains out... ;)
 
scottspfd82 said:
Neurolinguistic programming.

In my personal opinion it's a pseudo-science that's just a sexier way of packaging up and selling existing psychology.

There are people I highly respect who would disagree with me, so I'm not saying I'm right, or not to study it.

But things it teaches, like future pacing, where you paint a before and after picture for a prospect when selling to them is something I did with my marketing before I'd ever heard of NLP.

Other stuff like embedded commands, where you can subconsciously convince someone to take a specific action based on hidden suggestions like "by now you realize that" = "buy now" I don't really take seriously.

I think it's more likely someone buys something because they want it than because someone used an embedded command on them.

But meh, that's my take. I'd say it's worth studying if you find it interesting.

I've been in arguments with people who say "you use NLP all of the time, you just don't realize it" and my response is "you use basic psychology all of the time, you just call it NLP".

I'd be interested to hear about your take after the class OP.
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Embedded commands work better when you take the target out of their waking state and place them into an altered state (aka "trance"). In the trance state, they are more susceptible to suggestions, even embedded ones that are out of their conscious awareness. However, if you suggest someone to do something that has no purpose to them (or are against their identity, capabilities, values, or beliefs), they won't do it. You gotta align the suggestion with either their identity, believes, and/or capabilities.

I've been hanging out with a dude who is a master practitioner who has been doing NLP for 20 years. He tells me that, at the last day of his master practitioner class, the instructor tells the class that NLP is made up and explains how it is not real.

In a sense, it is real and, in another sense, it is fake ;).
 
If you like NLP and find it resourceful, check out Dave Dobson's fun shops and beach tapes

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I like him a lot, I find his stuff really easy to understand and different from the normal NLP stuff.
 
SirKonstantine said:
I've been hanging out with a dude who is a master practitioner who has been doing NLP for 20 years. He tells me that, at the last day of his master practitioner class, the instructor tells the class that NLP is made up and explains how it is not real.

In a sense, it is real and, in another sense, it is fake ;).
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This quote came to mind when I read that:

Sneakers said:
Everything in this world, including money, operates not on reality - but the perception of reality.
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blogspotter said:
Is it true that you can't make a girl fuck you under hypnosis. Some porn movies would disagree, but I heard they wake up once you touch their vagina or something. Not sure about the anus though.
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I haven't tried it yet but I think it's entirely possible. Probably the easiest way would be to ask the girl who her favorite actor was. Then hypnotize her to think you're that person. You can also make her think you have the largest penis in the world. One Italian guy I met, hypnotized a girl during sex. He didn't tell me the details but I think he made her think he had two penises. Whatever happened, he said she was extremely happy.

Not everyone is capable of hypnotic hallucination but the ones that are can imagine all sorts of things. One friend I studied with hypnotized a guy in a park. The guy thought my friend was John Stamos and asked about Rebecca Romijn and Full House! Hypnotic phenomena really have to be seen to be believed.
 
blogspotter said:
Is it true that you can't make a girl fuck you under hypnosis. Some porn movies would disagree, but I heard they wake up once you touch their vagina or something. Not sure about the anus though.
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Ummm... If you fuck girls when they are in a trance and they cum, they wake up.... JUST TO LET YOU KNOW.
 
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