Affordable custom websites and templates. Good looking sites sell more period.

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The Website Guru's - Professional, affordable websites and template customization services.

It's a proven fact, good looking websites make more sales. I can't tell you how many times I've come across a site looking like THIS or THIS on google and immediately closed out the page and begin looking through their competitors for a more legitimate looking site. To be completely frank they look like shit and I for one would never buy a thing from them in fear of being scammed or having my inbox spammed to all hell.

Sure it's possible they may have offered the best service, but with a site that looks like a complete scam, I sure as hell would never have found out. I've gone through many a thread (even here on wickedfire) with links to sites that look almost exactly like the cookie cutter type sites above and immediately discredited the author of whatever tool/service they were offering. These types of sites may work for certain people, but anyone who even has a remote idea of what a decent, legitimate site looks like will discredit them immediately. If you back your business in any way, you owe it to yourself to get a website that shows it.

Nowadays with so many competitors in each and every niche, you can't afford to have a site that looks like a 10 year old who just discovered geocities threw it together in an hour, when many of your competitors have a very legitimate and professional looking website. A website is a direct reflection of your business's professionalism on the web. You wouldn't run a store out of a run down shack, would you? So why should your website be any different?

The Website Gurus offers custom websites and website templates. We offer some of the best template customization services around, and we actually understand seo unlike most other template companies out there.

We have a huge selection of niche related templates ready to be completely customized for your company. A small investment of $399.99 for a completely customized HTML template can easily double your monthly sales.

Obviously review copies are a no-go for this type of service. We are an established website design and template customization service. Payments are available through both google checkout and paypal.

Package deals will be available for those that go for both a website and link package.
 
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transient said:
$400 to convert a psd to html? that's unbelievably high.
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That has nothing to do with our service... just a shameless off topic plug of your own services. Posts like that degrade the quality of forums in general. HOWEVER, your website is a good example of what we are talking about. If you had a better website, maybe you wouldn't have to rely on trolling.
 
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That has nothing to do with our service... just a shameless off topic plug of your own services. Posts like that degrade the quality of forums in general. HOWEVER, your website is a good example of what we are talking about. If you had a better website, maybe you wouldn't have to rely on trolling.
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No.. actually that is just unbelievably high. I have to completely agree.
 
Wait, so we give you $400 for you to take a TemplateMonster cluster fuck and provide a few edits for it in Notepad that would take any average WF member 2 fucking seconds?
 
$399 is incredibly high compared to what? If you were to have a template customized by templatemonster it would easily be over double that price. I know everyone acts like they could build their own website in 2 seconds, but when it comes down to it, most of the websites promoting services around here are just pure shit. Getting work from a forum thread is one thing, but getting work off of google takes a bit more than a single column website with a cluster fuck of words and lots of red h1 tags.
 
You're not doing yourself any favors by typing like that. As high quality as your work may seem, this coming from a designer, you have to understand that on these forums... designers/developers are undercutting the market. Think about this, would you rather have a couple of buyers at $400 or a lot of buyers at $200 dollars? Take pride in your work but watch the competition around you as well.
 
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You're not doing yourself any favors by typing like that. As high quality as your work may seem, this coming from a designer, you have to understand that on these forums... designers/developers are undercutting the market. Think about this, would you rather have a couple of buyers at $400 or a lot of buyers at $200 dollars? Take pride in your work but watch the competition around you as well.
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Heh, I'd rather have the couple of clients at $400 than a lot at $200. I have no shortage of work despite the $15 logo kiddies around here.

That being said, this guy is just another TemplateMonster reseller (or another scammer perhaps?) with a foul tongue. It's doubtful that any of the design there was actually done by these guys unless they happen to be one of the TemplateMonster artists, which I don't think they are.

I'd ask to see examples of work they've actually done themselves before I engaged them in any design contracts.
 
I saw your website the other day. The buy link for individual templates did not work. My browser is up to date - IE. Just thought you might want to know.
 
backlinkgurus said:
$399 is incredibly high compared to what? If you were to have a template customized by templatemonster it would easily be over double that price. I know everyone acts like they could build their own website in 2 seconds, but when it comes down to it, most of the websites promoting services around here are just pure shit. Getting work from a forum thread is one thing, but getting work off of google takes a bit more than a single column website with a cluster fuck of words and lots of red h1 tags.
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Compared to the industry as a whole. Hell, for just a little bit more I would hire an illustrator and get something really creative.

However, that's not what this is about. This is about the service you're offering which is definitely expensive as hell compared to a lot of the bad ass designers around here that don't try to rape your wallet.
 
You're all so quick to accuse us of over-charging or "raping wallets", yet your posts are so abstract and contain no actual examples.

Sure anyone can go on e-lance and pay an indian worker $100 for a shitty design and an extra $150 to code the site in tables. Just don't expect to get anything quality. I've yet to find an PSD to HTML service that will do an entire site for under $400 (feel free to enlighten me).

@getyourwriter, you give reference to all the "bad ass" designers, yet mention no names.

Maybe instead of baseless insult over our pricing, let us know what you would consider an acceptable price. Obviously it's hard to market a service like this to a forum where people are used to paying $25 for articles and directory submission (no I'm not discrediting these services as many of them are quite good). It's understandable that a $399 price point would raise a red flag. Hell I never expected to pay over $50 on an seo service until just recently when I took Nanexo's Massive SEO package for a run ($199 and worth every penny).

Point is, if you want quality services, you can't come in expecting everything to cost what you make in an hour.
 
dude you have to see it also that way, there are already companies/individuals who does really good work on PSD2XHTML industry and they charge only $159 for this. Their work is also not less better than what you promisse...considering the fact thos companies/individuals already got their names on that map in the industry as leaders. If we must name some of them...starts with http://www.psd2html.com and ends with http://w3-markup.com which is actually the Ferrari of the PSD2XHTML industry. Now if you consider yourself with them and their service quality=cost, i am sure you will see why you schould charge less on such forums.

Regarding your service, as we all know such forums are more for people looking for an great service at most low cost (even if possible for free). Keeping that fact in mind, most service providers are not able to charge the "actual market values" simply due of the nature of such forums. The aim is to provide a service in acceptable quality under the market values which is still very good buy for the forum users. If the aim of your post here is to get a few refferals trough your site to buy TM stuff, you better tell it very open...if someone need an template, they will gladly use your affiliate ID to make you earn a few bucks, but you dont have to play the smartass for this.

Hope my comment will make some sense to you and you will reconsider your pricing if you want to enlarge your clietns base.

Not to forget to mention, some your examples on the site for templates are hacks of templatemonster templates / or / you are just an reseller of them. Trying to trick your potential clients this way is not very clever move, almost every active webuser can easy recognize templatemonster templates.
 
@timtim. Again it seems you fail to understand what it is we are offering. Of course psd2html.com advertises a big $159 price tag on their site, yet have you gone in and actually tried to order a site. A full 5 page website coded to W3 compliant tableless design will run you well over $600. It has already been established that we are reselling templates with a complete customization service. In no way are we trying to trick people into buying a template. HOWEVER, we do offer complete custom websites on top of this.
 
not to add fuel to a fire but are we talking $400 a page here?

I work occasionally with a guy whos clients are Apple, Nvidia, Blackbox, Sony and various others - his portfolio is here SnobbySlice - Convert PSD to HTML - Premium HTML and CSS Code

He is absolutely on top of his game, and in very high demand.. so much so that he is booked up 6 months in advance at any given time.. so I'd expect a high price tag from him, quality is pristine and yet he charges far less than yourselves. I'm not saying your work isn't worth it, im simply saying you are indeed overpriced. ;) you'd get far more work if you advertised cheaper!
 
Again I'm trying to understand the reasoning behind people finding offense to the price, but it just doesn't add up to me. http://w3-markup.com offers a 5 page coding for the "reasonable" price of $916 dollars, and that's under the assumption you already have a design you are happy with (and this is simply a static markup , no wordpress/drupal/joomal, etc.)

To say that $399 is far above the industry standards is simply a baseless claim brought on by the fear of paying for a quality service.

@Getyourwriter. You offer article writing services for the price of ~3.50 for 100 words (at last check). This is far above what I could pay at another article writing service. I could get an entire "5 star rated" 500 word article for right around 6 dollars easily. Does this mean your service is a "wallet raper"? If the quality is there, then no.
 
My comment was more based on general ussues discussed by multiple members. Of cource we see what is your service about and we know you offer an customization of TM templates service, but the price you have setup for this is really high. I tell you why, i am also service provider on Elance and on Getafreelancer where buyers come with posts for "template monster customization" requests. Service providers bid on the projects not higher than $40 only and there are 100's of bids on such projects. Now ask your self why your service schould cost 10 times more than what the service providers on this freelancing sites bid?

Does this means your work is 10 times better than their, or their work is just 10 times bad than your service? For sure not...its al about the competition, thought you may not have such competition on here, but what if i now go ahead and post a thread about the same service you offer just at $50? I tell you what will happen in such case...i will still make profits while editing TM stuff and you will be watching me making money.

In sumary, your service is an very good idea to be offered on WF, considering it is cheap as the templates industry in general is cheap at all. It wont matter how much you edit an template...at the end it will still remain as an template. Then in that case why people schould pay something like $500 for an crappy and edited template when they can add an extra $100 and get totaly custom shit done by some design rockstars.

Think again ;-)
 
@Tim I have already touched base on all the claims you continue to bring up. ANYONE can go on e-lance and pay $50 to get a template customized. But trust me when I say you are going to get $50 of work. I see what you are trying to get at, but it simply doesn't fit the scenario.

The web design/coding business is one where you will most definitely get out of it what you are willing to pay. A 12 year old could probably spend a day playing with an html file and figure out how to change the text and open it in a browser. Said 12 year old would now figure he has enough experience to start a $50 template customization service. Give or take this is exactly the kind of people you are going to get for a $50 web service.

Again you mention the so called "design rockstars" who are willing to do a complete custom websites for a measly $600. In your own words "think again" sir. Said people do not exist (with the occasionally freelancer desperate for money and deep in the hole).

No-one with self-worth and a respectable service would be willing to drop the price of their service to a mere $50 for a complete custom template simply because a 12 year old with no experience and no viable reason for income is willing to waste an afternoon pretending to know what he is doing and bold enough to charge for it. Sure you could start a service offering exactly that which would quite possibly start out respectably decent initially, but would most certainly degrade in one way or another in a very short time (either you wouldn't keep up with demand or your work would turn to complete shit in order to do so).
 
For sure..it is open market and you are free to ask for whatever you want, but the fact is that no one buy it. I will give you an example of one of my services on here...i have an open thread for logo and banners design. Before i go ahead, i would like to share some past experiences...i very good remember the times of Elance when i been charging $2000 for a logo design. Now, after 5-6 years on the same site i can rarely get a logo design gig at $250...see the difference? The service and service quality is same, nothing changed...but what has changed is the client and the competition. I am also one of the guys who is against lowballing the market...but things are changing, for an service provider located in India or Pakistan an $30 logo design job is fucking good gig, but this doesnt apply for me. 30 dollars in India can be great money for the few hours job (which is probably done by an 12 years old kid with an crappy laptop and hacked Photoshop copy), but for me it is only my lunch money here in Europa. Now to my experience on here...i have an thread and on that thread i offered logo design at $120 which is very acceptable rate for custom logo backed up with corporate identity. Looking from buyer perespective, i would really order a logo design from someone offering this. But when you check the WF board, you will see posts like "logo design only $15". I bet most of thos providers are using some clipart or hacked iStock vector art from some warez sites (refere to your templates here as thos are the "clipart" in the case here). for their logo design creations. Do you think they dont find enough buyers on WF?...why?...sure they do find enough people to buy an $15 crap and buyers are most happy with. The reason they are happy with is simply their own needs, they feel the logo they just got is good enoug for an startup and their small investment for this is just right.

In other words... i very good see your point, but what i am trying to explain to you is, your service cost wont work on here, instead have your price reduced on atleats 50% then maybe you can get a few orders as it is still a good offer.

See it also from an buyer end, you as an experienced designer/developer schould know what is valuable and what not. You know by yourself better, that an site template is great way to get an site quickly up with a few small tweaks. This is ideal for people who does PPA or PPC business as they dont have the enough funds at the begining to start a business. Templates are just ideal for such people, but keep in mind they also have some brain between their ears and they can see the pointless offer you have here. They will go logicaly and ask them selfs why a template cost is only $65 but they must pay approx $400 to edit it to get the way they need it.

Another thing in your original post is the word "unique"...you say unique templates, but looking at templatemonster, thos unique templates cost $2000 (and above) with your word highlighted "unique". I dont think there is someone on this planet that will go buy an template "uniquely" at $2000+...for that money they can get some real professional to do custom site.

I wont bother you more on this thing...it is your decission on how to advertise your service, but as i say...we are not back in year 2000 and people know what is template and they know the value of an template and how much it can cost to add some changes.

Good Luck mate with your service, it is great idea but is just to expensive for editing template.

b/w, sory for the huge letter LOL
 
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