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[BlondeTM]

Not saying you and Judy overreacted, because I hardly understand what that ubaidwhatever guy was saying when he was drunk, and I really do believe him when he emailed me apologizing about it, but you guys were bitching about it in a way that really was kinda dumb.

Especially Judy. I'm pretty surprised she became so vocal suddenly when usually she just rolls around and chimes in every now and again.

Yeah, I'm definitely not one to pass judgement on anyone, but the shit she went on saying, complimenting Shoemoney, lol.

Anyway, water under the bridge.

If that kid comes anywhere near you at Affiliate Summit West or bothers you in any way, shape or form, he'll be removed from the area, and here, for life.

What do you mean by rolls around and chimes in? If you mean joking around, yeah...I do it with the best of them. The Mister X band camp thing was one example. But it was mutual, a joke from one member to another and it never crossed a line. It's called respect for each other, and why some people here have class and others don't. The social retards that spew whatever they please don't have class. The guys that joke around and know what the word boundaries means, they have class (Mister X and ChrisS being two I can think of right off the top of my head).

And the shoemoney stuff...Jon, Jon, Jon.....

complimenting him? No. The stuff he posts is elementary internet marketing, nothing stellar. Which is why until this drama started I didn't read his blog. He's a nobody to me.

The reason for the compliments was because your whole point was being skewed in the delivery. Fine, trash him. But make it look like this place is a bunch of high school horn dog mob mentality dorks and your credibility with anyone on the fence about him will end up being useless. Your result will be the faux praise I posted about him.

Think about it.

BillyBob googles shoemoney. Ends up here on this thread. Reads it all. Then goes to shoemoney's blog. Finds civil postings. BillyBob is most likely going to come to the conclusion that this thread is nothing more than hyperbole and shoemoney is in fact God.

He pulls off what he does by the style he does it in. Everything here was a 180 of that. So, logically, my comments would represent what most people looking into him would come up with as a conclusion.


Do I care about him? No. Do I think he has anything I can benefit from? No. I paid 3K for Aaron Wall's new marketing membership. Shoemoney has videos in there. It doesn't make him a guru, in fact...it makes him stick out like a sore thumb compared to the others that put content and tools in there.

My comments were sarcastic, but much like my point in this thread....that was lost.

C'est la vie.

I agree with turbolapp that it's weird that so many of you don't understand why a woman would be offended when targeted with that crap. But my bet is those who don't understand don't get too many dates and those dates don't develop into relationships.

Mars vs. Venus.



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[a10sys]

Using the Miserable Users Hack on BlondeTM is kinda juvenile and hypocritical based on what you're soapboxing in this thread. I've been around vbulletin long enough to recognize that hack, don't deny it. I know you don't care, but I'm disappointed in you. I thought you practiced what you preached.

And yeah, this is BlondeTM signed in under my business partner's account. He is so going to kill me. But I, being me, had to point out the hypocrisy. The funny thing is...if I diss shoemoney, I'd have to diss you Jon....for the same reasons. So I'll bow out. You succeeded in shutting me up. Only your words should be heard on this subject.

 

[arz]

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[turbolapp]

Using the Miserable Users Hack on BlondeTM is kinda juvenile and hypocritical based on what you're soapboxing in this thread. I've been around vbulletin long enough to recognize that hack, don't deny it. I know you don't care, but I'm disappointed in you. I thought you practiced what you preached.

And yeah, this is BlondeTM signed in under my business partner's account. He is so going to kill me. But I, being me, had to point out the hypocrisy. The funny thing is...if I diss shoemoney, I'd have to diss you Jon....for the same reasons. So I'll bow out. You succeeded in shutting me up. Only your words should be heard on this subject.

 

[dogfighter]

I never bought into his fucking crap, all I hear on forums is shoe money, I check the old chump’s website, don’t notice the different. If you guys say he is a douchebag, then he is one. I have never seen somebody get digitally upset over their own doodoo. I would advise you to stick tuff, he know he can’t win this one, don’t know who Mr. Shoe Money is and frankly don’t care. If you are fishy… you get what fishy gets. That’s a really fakey “legal document” also, probably falsified it, like a little wimp. I don’t buy into you “gurus” crap Mr. Shoemoney, get a new web name also, its not appealing.

Is your post a .csv?

 

[nickycakes]

 

[killafawk]

What do you mean by rolls around and chimes in? If you mean joking around, yeah...I do it with the best of them. The Mister X band camp thing was one example. But it was mutual, a joke from one member to another and it never crossed a line. It's called respect for each other, and why some people here have class and others don't. The social retards that spew whatever they please don't have class. The guys that joke around and know what the word boundaries means, they have class (Mister X and ChrisS being two I can think of right off the top of my head).

And the shoemoney stuff...Jon, Jon, Jon.....

complimenting him? No. The stuff he posts is elementary internet marketing, nothing stellar. Which is why until this drama started I didn't read his blog. He's a nobody to me.

The reason for the compliments was because your whole point was being skewed in the delivery. Fine, trash him. But make it look like this place is a bunch of high school horn dog mob mentality dorks and your credibility with anyone on the fence about him will end up being useless. Your result will be the faux praise I posted about him.

Think about it.

BillyBob googles shoemoney. Ends up here on this thread. Reads it all. Then goes to shoemoney's blog. Finds civil postings. BillyBob is most likely going to come to the conclusion that this thread is nothing more than hyperbole and shoemoney is in fact God.

He pulls off what he does by the style he does it in. Everything here was a 180 of that. So, logically, my comments would represent what most people looking into him would come up with as a conclusion.


Do I care about him? No. Do I think he has anything I can benefit from? No. I paid 3K for Aaron Wall's new marketing membership. Shoemoney has videos in there. It doesn't make him a guru, in fact...it makes him stick out like a sore thumb compared to the others that put content and tools in there.

My comments were sarcastic, but much like my point in this thread....that was lost.

C'est la vie.

I agree with turbolapp that it's weird that so many of you don't understand why a woman would be offended when targeted with that crap. But my bet is those who don't understand don't get too many dates and those dates don't develop into relationships.

Mars vs. Venus.



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i thought you din't care about shoemoney? so why should you care if billybob likes shoemoney over wickedfire?

And you really think this thread is gonna do anything to shoemoneys fan base? If anything they will dismiss anything in this thread because shoemoney is never wrong.

Nothing will change because of this thread. In fact i think it actually promotes his blog because now people are interested in this guy wondering what hes lying about and doing so wrong and they visit his site and they probably will like him because they are noobs to making money and they see his check and line up to lick his balls.

Point is crying about every little thing that "offends" you does make this thread even worse. By actually pointing things out and whining about them your the one whos gonna make people think wicked fire is the one doing the wrong thing. If you really "care" about what direction this thread is headed in because all the "offending" content that seems to "offend" you, then you should stop crying in public about it because it obviously doesn't help when your pointing fingers and spreading your soap drama over something that should be shrugged off and ignored.


oh by the way you should be just in the red as the guy who was making those comments. You were feeding him. If theccomments really offended you, you should of shut up and ignored him and told a mod to deal with it. But obviously your just in it for the drama.

 

[a10sys]

This is the Miserable Users Hack:

Miserable users - vBulletin.org Forum

That list of things that happen to users that are put into the Miserable Users usergroup is exactly what happens when I try to sign in as BlondeTM. I managed to get that one post through, even then it cut it off.

I had the hack installed on my own vbulletin forum until vbulletin came up with a better solution by creating temporary bans. It was useful before the later versions of vbulletin when you needed to ban someone non-permanently. Now, it's just used for when someone doesn't have the transparency to ban someone temporarily, and they don't want others to know they've kept the person from logging in, posting, etc.

By the way....the people I'm doing business with as BlondeTM....please send the orders via email. I can't get to my PMs.

My main purpose here these days is to give business to the credible members that are in the buy/sell/trade forum. Business that can be easily had elsewhere but my loyalty to WF is why I continue to do business here.

Do I create entire tutorials here? No. I help out now and then by answering a question when I can. I help others via PM, I don't put my personal or business info on the open boards, there are too many lazy wannabes on WF since the good people left to go to Eli's forum. The producers for the most part are gone.

So maybe Jon was referring to the quality of my posts here? If so, yes they have been confined mainly to STS and to review good service providers to help others navigate the BST forum. My bad.

 

[SUP3RNOVA]

What happened to this thread....

 

[MisterX]

The horridness of this thread overwhelms me. NO, this is NOT WickedFire, this is it's ugliest, nastiest side. I wasn't planning to make a huge ranting post, but somebody needs to and I'm out of patience.

First of all, let's clear the issue of WF being some kind of shithole of IM forums, where everything goes. Because judging by some posts in this thread, that's what we are...

im not condoning his actions, he was drunk and took it to far. but you gotta understand what kind of forum your in

She's gotta understand ?! You've been posting here for a month, managed to annoy a decent number of, I'd dare to say, core users of the site and YOU should be the one to explain stuff about WF to people ?!

Understand this: you're nothing but a n00b here - a pretty annoying one as well - and you obviously don't know shit about what WF is like. So stop saying "we", because for you, WF is definitely not "we". I'm not going to explain to you why you're wrong, lurk more and maybe you'll find out before you get hit by the banhammer.

As for everyone else reading this - go read seocracy's post before posting and ask yourself if you're about to become a part of a rabid lynch mob. Rants like this, especially when they come from Jon, tend to attract the lowest of WF. Result ? We get lame ass juvenile shit like this:

is he going to ASW? I ain't even involved in this but im down to kick his ass.

To be honest, I'm kinda surprised Shoe Money is into MMA because he's a fat piece of shit. Plus, he gets laser eye surgery and only does it 1 eye at a time because he's afraid that the laser might fuck him up. WTF? LOL.

It wasn't really so she could go to asw. She needed to buy more lube cos of Shoemoney's preferred >ahem< entrance technique

you know BlondieTM be the queen of swalloin oh she wudnt be heya.... the skank heha be deep throatin like a slut shud

kiddies, ur are all off topic!!!! The REAL issue here is whether Shoemoney likes to play 'ride the wild mambo' with gerald the goat.

Lol sorry but i don't think wicked fire comes off as a really respectable site in terms of users and what gets said here.

Im not saying wicked fire is a bad site or anything im just saying..

look at the logo, YOUR ON FUCKING WICKED FIRE, any nicer and we are just like any other webmaster forum. this is where the potty mouth kids play.

so does Shoemoney do goats or not then? Or is it only male retarded goats he likes?

These are the examples of people that just don't get it. Yes, freedom of speech, foul mouthed and all that stuff, but THERE IS A FUCKING LINE and you fuckers obviously don't see it. This might come as a surprise to some, but you can actually swear, talk about shit and boobs and whatnot and STILL be a mature person.

The problem arises when people start thinking that "hey, everything goez, so i mite as well skullfuck whoever i want just cos i feel like it!!1". Well fucking no! For shit like that, go to ebaums, 4chan or "adult industry boards" and stay away from WF.

In summary, some of you need to learn the difference between fighting and harassment and between arguments and character assassination before you start talking about what WF is and for fuck's sake, stop ruining the best IM forum with your juvenile/drunken/unintelligent bullshit.

 

[Webferret]

I for one am deeply humbled by this eloquent, well thought out, highly emotional appeal to decency,and I henceforth swear to abjure nastiness in all its forms, and never drink again. From this point on, my contributions to WF will be sweetness and light, and everyone will live in perfect harmony.








Shoemoney does screw goats, though.

 

[MisterX]

and I henceforth swear to abjure nastiness in all its forms, and never drink again. From this point on, my contributions to WF will be sweetness and light, and everyone will live in perfect harmony.

Woah, sarcasm! You're exactly the type of person I'm talking about.

 

[robertdotcom]

take shoemoney doooown!!!!

 

[killafawk]

The horridness of this thread overwhelms me. NO, this is NOT WickedFire, this is it's ugliest, nastiest side. I wasn't planning to make a huge ranting post, but somebody needs to and I'm out of patience.

First of all, let's clear the issue of WF being some kind of shithole of IM forums, where everything goes. Because judging by some posts in this thread, that's what we are...



She's gotta understand ?! You've been posting here for a month, managed to annoy a decent number of, I'd dare to say, core users of the site and YOU should be the one to explain stuff about WF to people ?!

Understand this: you're nothing but a n00b here - a pretty annoying one as well - and you obviously don't know shit about what WF is like. So stop saying "we", because for you, WF is definitely not "we". I'm not going to explain to you why you're wrong, lurk more and maybe you'll find out before you get hit by the banhammer.

As for everyone else reading this - go read seocracy's post before posting and ask yourself if you're about to become a part of a rabid lynch mob. Rants like this, especially when they come from Jon, tend to attract the lowest of WF. Result ? We get lame ass juvenile shit like this:















These are the examples of people that just don't get it. Yes, freedom of speech, foul mouthed and all that stuff, but THERE IS A FUCKING LINE and you fuckers obviously don't see it. This might come as a surprise to some, but you can actually swear, talk about shit and boobs and whatnot and STILL be a mature person.

The problem arises when people start thinking that "hey, everything goez, so i mite as well skullfuck whoever i want just cos i feel like it!!1". Well fucking no! For shit like that, go to ebaums, 4chan or "adult industry boards" and stay away from WF.

In summary, some of you need to learn the difference between fighting and harassment and between arguments and character assassination before you start talking about what WF is and for fuck's sake, stop ruining the best IM forum with your juvenile/drunken/unintelligent bullshit.

With all due respect to jon and other cool people on here i gotta say this..

I've lurked around here for awhile and i've always knew wickedfire wasn't exactly the greatest place on earth to learn Internet marketing just because the size and most people here like to mess around and don't really give any real answers and throw a rick roll link in every other post.

I'd like to respond to this..

"First of all, let's clear the issue of WF being some kind of shithole of IM forums, where everything goes. Because judging by some posts in this thread, that's what we are..."

Shithole of IM? well lets see, this thread obviously proved your point, every thread on here pretty much proves that point. I like these forums but seriously open your eyes this forum is probably just as bad as ebaumsworld itself, infact i think most of you even come from ebaumsworld.

And now your trying to play the "OH WE AREN'T LIKE THAT" card. Please..

Your a mod here and your going to tell me shit like this doesn't go on every day? for fuck sake you let porn be posted on these forums and you want everyone to take wicked fire seriously?

I got news for you buddy. I know why your throwing your fit. Because no one here besides the drunk man crossed the line so you could go on one of your hungry power trips. The only times i've seen you post on these forums was to bitch or to ban someone. Makes me wonder wither you even give a shit about WF or your in it just for the ban power trips.

It don't matter if i am a noob here or not. I am an outsider that came in and i can tell you what people think about wicked fire because i use to be one of them Since you care so much about what outsiders fucking think let me give you a little taste.

1. Nobodys ever recommended anyone to wicked fire for help.

2. Wicked fire is shit talked on all major serious forums

3. This is where all the banned kids or bored kids come to chat, with the occassional webmaster talk.

4. Did i mention wicked fire is shit talked all the time?


Oh wait now lets see here i know what your gonna say..

"WE DONT CARE WHAT ANYONE THINKS ABOUT US". I know because i've seen it yelled here all the time now all of a sudden you give a fuck about what people say about wicked fire? Sorry bud your alittle late to go on your chrisitan power trip.

oh and please don't ban me all powerful mr moderator. :bowdown::bowdown::bowdown:

ha.
ha.

 

[Webferret]

Woah, sarcasm! You're exactly the type of person I'm talking about.

woah! HILARIOUS comeback! Don't think I've been put down so ruthlessly since... 1st grade?

BTW - why do you insist on taking it off topic all the time? the world wants to know what diseases shoe could catch from our 4 footed friends. Shoe showed incredible stupidity sending a 'mummy make the nasty man stop' letter to Jon. what the fuck did shoe THINK would happen next??? I bet he never thought for a moment his goat fetish would leak out. The pics are already circulating.

Jokes aside, personally, I think this thread should be repointed to the fake adsense check thread. Much more fun.

 

[_poto_]

The problem arises when people start thinking that "hey, everything goez, so i mite as well skullfuck whoever i want just cos i feel like it!!1". Well fucking no! For shit like that, go to ebaums, 4chan or "adult industry boards" and stay away from WF.

if you want me gone, just tell me and I'll go back to my beloved porn boards...

I know I can be crude and abrasive at times... but I do try to behave myself here... was just trying to make a point... sorry if I offended your delicate sensibilities...

 

[aim]

I agree with Mister. X 100% and I feel bad for people who were unnecessarily bashed here. This thread has gotten pretty ridiculous and will definitely paints a bad picture for wickedfire in general.

As long as people keep bumping this thread, this crapshoot will continue. As the quality of posts declines, people will visit this forum less and will become a wasteland, something that resembles what was once a great forum.

 

[turbolapp]

Excellent post Mister X but alas, in vain, I'm sure. Most people here already understand "the line" but the few that don't, never will.

How about a little Spring Cleaning??

 

[arz]

1. Nobodys ever recommended anyone to wicked fire for help.

2. Wicked fire is shit talked on all major serious forums

3. This is where all the banned kids or bored kids come to chat, with the occassional webmaster talk.

4. Did i mention wicked fire is shit talked all the time?

QFT.

Those who think this thread is ruining WF must have missed A LOT of other threads on here over the past year. WF's been going downhill for a long time.

 

[MisterX]

if you want me gone, just tell me and I'll go back to my beloved porn boards...

I know I can be crude and abrasive at times... but I do try to behave myself here... was just trying to make a point... sorry if I offended your delicate sensibilities...

Nope, nothing against you. I used your post solely as a reminder that this is not an adult industry board of the type you mentioned.

The other two, though...

I got news for you buddy. I know why your throwing your fit. Because no one here besides the drunk man crossed the line so you could go on one of your hungry power trips.
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It don't matter if i am a noob here or not. I am an outsider that came in and i can tell you what people think about wicked fire because i use to be one of them Since you care so much about what outsiders fucking think let me give you a little taste...Nobodys ever recommended anyone to wicked fire for help.

Too many errors in your post, so I just chose two things to respond to:

1. If I was all about hungry power trips, I would have simply banned you - a few people would have told me "good work" and I don't think you'd be missed by anybody, especially since some have already mistaken you for our regular troll (which says enough about your behavior).

2. Wrong again, and on so many levels. But if you can't see why, you can always leave us "banned & bored kids" and just go back to other, more helpful places.

woah! HILARIOUS comeback! Don't think I've been put down so ruthlessly since... 1st grade?

I don't know what you were expecting, but I'm not really into comebacks and arguing over the internet. It's not as if I could jump through your monitor and grab you by the throat, and I'll leave e-fights to others.

Of all the people participating in this thread, only 4 of you managed to stick out by making a mockery out of it - a 5 post wonder that came out of nowhere for some nonsensical bashing, a drunken ubaidabcd (and he's actually ok when he's not that drunk), an all knowing n00b that seems to know everything about WF just by lurking and being an outsider and you with half a dozen of goat fucking stupidities. So don't be surprised when I call you out and be lucky you weren't banned instead (especially you, for that completely unprovoked attack on Andrea).